Peetz, Erickson Address Alumni Council Again

October 27, 2012 at 12:05 pm 706 comments

Karen Bretherick Peetz ’77 didn’t waste any time. She didn’t beat around the bush. She stood up to speak Friday afternoon at Alumni Council, told members to “ask the questions you want to ask,” and began addressing the issues by saying: “Subject One. The Freeh Report.”

Which, of course, is one of the issues that has divided alumni the most in the past year.

The chair of the Board of Trustees hasn’t traditionally addressed Alumni Council. But this is the second straight session in which Peetz has given a report and taken questions from council members. Both times, she’s attended with President Rod Erickson, and both times, she’s said that doing so is an important part of the board’s outreach to alumni.

On Friday afternoon, she wanted to make a key point: That she understands that the recommendation to examine Penn State’s culture has been “one of the big sticking points” for some Penn Staters. But she added that the recommendation, controversial as it has been, is actually a good thing.

“I can recognize the discomfort it causes,” Peetz said. “We’ve all loved the culture. But let’s consider culture in the abstract first, and let me pose some questions. Do you, in your business, examine why your organization consistently succeeds in certain areas and maybe falls short in others? Do you ask yourself why you do or don’t retain certain types of employees? Or why everyone seemingly stays at work until midnight … or, alternatively, why you have to tread cautiously at 5 p.m. so you don’t get trampled by the mass exodus?

“These are the cultural issues of an organization. It’s the way an organization acts, and in my experience, the best of organizations have as an underpinning of the culture and their practice a process of continual improvement, which includes an examination of that very culture. As a world class institution, we need to continue to do this.”

Subject No. 2 for Peetz was whether the board understood that the Freeh report would be used by the NCAA as a justification for sanctions. She said she would not get into the NCAA’s rationale—“that’s unproductive at best, divisive at worst”—and encouraged anyone who doesn’t understand the decision to read the reasons Erickson gave for the decision and additional explanation from Gene Marsh, an NCAA expert who was retained by the university. The information is available on the Board of Trustees website in a transcript of the Aug. 16 meeting; you can get a PDF of the transcript by clicking here. Erickson’s remarks start on page 25; Marsh’s start on page 16.

She reminded everyone that “we were faced with catastrophe” and also that Erickson has called the decision the hardest he’s had to make in his entire career. “And he did not make the decision alone,” she added. “He consulted with the executive committee of the board.”

Peetz finished her prepared remarks by asking for two things from council members: their “understanding and tolerance” as the board and the university continue dealing with fallout from the scandal, and their “visible support” in continuing to “speak out for Penn State” as leaders in their communities.

When Peetz and Erickson finished speaking, there was time for a few questions. Greg Malone ’95, president of the Connecticut Valley Chapter, immediately asked the other question that has divided alumni: how and whether Joe Paterno will be recognized. He noted that the university has missed opportunities for a video tribute and for a moment of silence and added, “I believe this posture has been a real sticking point for alumni who are otherwise eager to move on.”

Erickson fielded this one.

“We’re hearing from a lot of individuals, a lot of alumni, on both sides of this issue,” he said. “And that suggests to me that there’s still a lot of divergence of opinion about what to do. I personally think that we need some more time, time for reflection. I personally think to do something right now will push us apart rather than push us together.”

Peetz added that any such commemoration would be university-driven, not trustees-driven.

Council member Liz Bligan ’91, ’98g asked another question that’s been on the minds of many alumni: “When will the Board of Trustees fight back, defend Penn State, demand due process? You have not done that, and we are anxious for you to do that.”

Peetz noted that Tim Curley ’76, ’78g and Gary Schultz ’71, ’75g will have due process; their trial is scheduled for January. “So, frankly, after all that is said and done, then we’ll have to say, ‘OK, what does that inform us about the situation, and what do we do at that point?’” Peetz said. “Who knows what will be at that point? I’m sorry I can’t give you a more definitive answer, but the answer is: There’s more to come.”

Other notes from the session:

The Blue White Vision Council, a group that will be facilitated by former University of Illinois president Stan Ikenberry and chaired by Peetz herself, is ready to begin meeting. The council, which includes faculty and students as well as trustees, will broadly examine Penn State’s mission and goals.

—Much of Erickson’s talk centered on Penn State’s enrollment. The Sandusky scandal did not have an effect on the current freshman class; Erickson said the current freshman class has about 7,700 students. But applications for next year are down between 10 and 35 percent so far, although Erickson also noted that “paid accepts” are holding pace with last year, and he assured council members that the quality of students hasn’t waned.

Some of the decline may be from the scandal, he said. But he thinks bigger changes in higher education—particularly students’ climbing debt loads and the lack of economic growth in Pennsylvania; possibly the rising application fees, which may be causing students to apply to fewer schools–might be additional causes. “We’re in a totally different era,” he said.

—Erickson also touched on fundraising. The Campaign for Penn State Students passed the $1.65 billion mark a few weeks ago, he said, and there are still 20 months remaining for the capital campaign to reach its $2 billion goal.

Lori Shontz, senior editor

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  • 1. Naturewoman  |  October 28, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Peetz talked about due process for Curley and Shultz… but why didn’t they stand up and fight for due process for Paterno and Penn State? The BoTs have opened the doors to all punishments and accepted them without a fight. They let Paterno take a lot of the blame. What if in the end it is proven LEGALLY that what Mike McQuirey really saw was nothing more than horse play. How each time he has retold his story, he’s also enhanced it. According to victim two, nothing happened that night. Why are they accepting blame when blame is most likely someone else’s. How about The Second Mile. How about all that investigated the ’98 inncodent. How about the High School. How about the Gym teacher that walked in on Sandusky on top of the kid. Why the eager to be the bad guys…???

  • 2. Naturewoman  |  October 28, 2012 at 9:58 am

    *McQueary

  • 3. Rob Schuette  |  October 28, 2012 at 10:01 am

    On this issue, it leaves many of us shaking our heads. They made a decision to move on. The problem is, that “moving on” deliberately trashed people and ideas that we all hold very close to our hearts. This makes “moving on” impossible because it is not a business decision but a life decision.

  • 4. duane damiani  |  October 28, 2012 at 10:22 am

    ‘Moving on” still means to me “COVERING UP”….no one is moving on till this whole mess gets some exploratory surgery in a court room…but frankly the entire BOT sans the newer appontees need to step down…no one will listen to them while they are in their position…their influence is tainted…trust is vaporized and will not be restored…Ladies and Gentlemen and that word is vary loosely used…your time is way overdue to fade into the sunset…frankly I hope someting emerges that some or all of you have to do some jail time cause personally you all have the stench of crime on you..

  • 5. gershonpsu  |  October 28, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Erickson said there is a lot of divergence of opinion on honoring Joe Paterno. Fine — put it to a vote. The Alumni Association can ask its membership if the would like to see Beaver Stadium renamed for JVP. That should settle the issue.

    It is time to stop the PR doublespeak.

  • 6. Wendy Silverwood  |  October 28, 2012 at 10:36 am

    I will leave you with this snippet directly from Rodney Erickson’s Bio:

    “As executive vice president, Erickson served as the chief executive officer in the president’s absence, and was centrally involved in most operations of the University.”

    His name is curiously absent from Freeh’s Mantra of “the Four Most Powerful Men at Penn State”. Erickson signed our daughter’s diploma along with Spanier & Garban. I don’t see Schultz, Curley or Paterno’s name on that document.

    I have also done a little bit of Mad Libs work here, and removed “Paterno” from Freeh’s statement and inserted another name integral to the Sandusky case. I think it flows much nicer, don’t you?

    “Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims by Dr. Alycia Chambers and the other professionals at her practice. As licensed psychologists, they were well aware of Sandusky’s pedophile behaviors and failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized. Aside from releasing a report to law enforcement in 1998, these individuals never followed up with the appropriate child welfare organizations to ensure that the investigation was carried out and that children were protected. Nor did they contact the Second Mile, whose headquarters was just few blocks away from their practice, to ensure that Sandusky was prohibited from accessing his child victims. In short, they wrote a report and washed their hands of the incident, essentially fulfilling their legal obligations to report, but not their moral obligation to the children.”

  • 7. brown eyes (@amhw1021)  |  October 28, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Karen, you never seem to answer a question directly. You refuse to stand up for our University. Because of this refusal, you and the BoT have created the mess we are in. No, it wasn’t Joe Paterno or even Sandusky, since he no longer was an employee of the University, who created these current circumstances. It was the Board of Trustees who caused it. The firing of Joe Paterno started it. Neither you nor the board had any just cause to fire Joe Paterno or to accept the blame for what Sandusky is alleged to have done. There are so many other entites that have more of a responsibility for failing these victims than Penn State does and yet Penn State is accepting all of the blame. Why???? Please, Karen, answer the question directly without skirting around it.

  • 8. Scott Kimler  |  October 28, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Karen,

    It’s not “Penn State culture” that needs to be examined, although I’m certain you think it is. Rather, it’s the “Penn State Board of Trustees culture”.

    After the – debacle of an “independent” “investigative” report – (aka Freeh Report) came out, you said that the Board of Trustees would take responsibility for failures. Penn Staters are still waiting for this to happen.

    A year ago, the Board (before facts were known) made a swift decision to “clean house” but, have neglected to clean their own.

    Taking responsibility, Karen, is not ticking off 119 recommendations from a dubious report. Taking responsibility will entail addressing the BOT culture.

    The BOT culture that allowed the University President (and others) to get away with “covering up child sex abuse” (if that’s what you think happened);
    The BOT culture that has yet to stand and defend Penn State;
    The BOT culture that continues to violate the Sunshine Act by holding private, decision-making meetings and rubber-stamp public meetings;
    The BOT culture that thinks 3-minutes of “public expressions” is the epitome of “openness” (wait … is my time up?);
    The BOT culture that thinks a new website design and top level domain name named “openness” is what openness is all about;
    The BOT culture that believes “reform” means more subcommittees;
    The BOT culture that believes having all 6 Business & Industry Trustees sitting on the Executive Committee is really in the best interest of Penn State;
    The BOT culture that violates their own Standing Orders without consequence;
    The BOT culture that is so completely out of step with the Penn State stakeholders that they don’t even realize they need to clean house, let alone know how.

    Yesterday, I’m told that the President (some of whom refer to him as “Fraudney Erickson”) took to Beaver Field during halftime. He was booed.

    I’m sure you will choose to believe the reason for this because he had to make hard, unpopular decisions. I can assure you that wasn’t the reason. Penn Staters are tired of waiting for you to do what you said you would do.

    Take some responsibility for the failures, Karen. Please.

  • 9. William A. Levinson B.S. '78  |  October 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    The bottom line is that, when you attempt to cover up a defect in judgment (November 9 2011), all you do is expose defects in your character. Penn State cannot move on under leaders who are simply not trustworthy.

    Rodney Erickson and the NCAA’s Ed Ray cannot both be telling the truth about the “death penalty threat.” That means either Erickson is unfit to represent Penn State in any way, shape, or form, or the NCAA is grossly unfit to regulate college athletics or indeed anything else. Noting Erickson’s depiction of the Trustees’ rush to judgment against Paterno as “courageous,” and the NCAA’s misuse of its authority to impose illegitimate sanctions on Penn State, I would be inclined to go with “both” no matter who told the truth on this particular matter.

    Karen Peetz had meanwhile made at least two less-than-true statements in her capacity as Trustee Chairwoman:

    Karen Peetz in the November/December Penn Stater (page 41, bottom): “We’re not planning to make any statements about the guilt or innocence of any of the parties involved [in the Freeh Report].”

    Karen Peetz on July 13 (http://www.npr.org/2012/07/13/156706851/paternos-legacy-marred-by-psu-sex-abuse-report)

    “KAREN PEETZ: I think our reaction is that the clarity that’s come out of the report would show that 61 years of excellent service that Joe gave to the university is now marred. And we have to step back and say, what does that mean?”

    So Peetz herself effectively robo-signed the Freeh Group’s findings against Coach Paterno and others, and then insulted the intelligence of the alumni by denying it. Peetz also said in a Q&A session that the Freeh Group was not hired to find out who knew what, and when, about Sandusky: another outright falsehood.

    Erickson deserved to be booed at halftime, and my recommendation is that the next time the people in attendance turn their backs to him. That is how the Freedom Riders deal with the Westboro Baptist Church, and how some Confederate reenactors responded when the KKK marched past with a Confederate flag. His praise of the Trustees’ rush to judgment on Nov. 9, and his removal of the Paterno statue, are ample cause to turn one’s back to him whenever he does anything whatsoever.

  • 10. John Morrison, LPC (PSU alum - PSYBA, '91)  |  October 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    For Peetz to say that discussing the NCAA’s rationale for using the Freeh Report as the basis for their sanctions is “unproductive” and “divisive” is just another way of saying that she does not want to accept responsibility for the BoT’s collossal blunder in handling the whole Sansusky (NOT Penn State, NOT Joe Paterno) Scandal. I will state with all certainty that it is the Board of (Mis)Trustees that is being “unproductive” by just siting around and doing nothing while the football players and the rest of the current (and future) student body are being punished for things that were not their fault! The BoT’s lack of leadership (bending over their conference tables and letting Freeh and the NCAA have their way with them) has been the most “divisive” aspect of this whole scandal. My thanks to fellow alum, Wendy Silverwood, for bringing up the FACT that Dr. Alycia Chambers and her practice failed miserably to do anything that even resembled a sincere attempt to stop Sandusky when they had the greatest opportunity out of anyone involved in this atrocityto stop him. As a mental health professional, myself, I am appauled to hear that Dr. Chambers and company did NOTHING of any significance to stop Sandusky from re-offending! NOTE TO THE BoT: Do your job while you still have one!!!! (And, yes, I vote in the BoT elections, as do many of my fellow alums who actually care about PSU!)

  • 11. wlevinson  |  October 28, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Of course the Trustees want to “move on,” the way a hit and run driver wants to move on after causing a multi-vehicle crash and millions of dollars in damage. In this case, the damages have already exceeded $70 million plus damage to Penn State’s reputation and a downgrade in its bond rating.

    This, I believe, is what Ms. Peetz is trying to tell us (per Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World;” soma is a mind-altering drug):

    “”I don’t understand anything,” she said with decision, determined to preserve her incomprehension intact. “Nothing. Least of all,” she continued in another tone “why you don’t take soma when you have these dreadful ideas of yours. You’d forget all about them. And instead of feeling miserable, you’d be jolly. So jolly,” she repeated and smiled, for all the puzzled anxiety in her eyes, with what was meant to be an inviting and voluptuous cajolery.”

    We alumni do not feel at all jolly, and we are not drinking the Kool-Aid or taking the soma.

    Peetz and her colleagues turned the Sandusky scandal into a Penn State scandal on 11/9. It’s as if they found a fire in a wastebasket in Old Main (Sandusky), and then threw gasoline on the fire so Old Main burned down. Another analogy would be the response of Europe to Gavrilo Princip’s murder of two people in 1914–an irresponsible rush to judgment that killed another 20 million people and brought down three of the governments involved. The governments that started World War I, however, exercised far more deliberation and thought in the presence of a military threat than the Trustees exercised on 11/9, when there was no urgent need to do anything at all. The bottom line is that they panicked, and then compromised their integrity by trying to cover this up instead of taking responsibility.

  • 12. Debby Rippey  |  October 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    Karen Peetz said, “We’ve all loved the culture. But let’s consider culture in the abstract first, and let me pose some questions. Do you, in your business, examine why your organization consistently succeeds in certain areas and maybe falls short in others?”

    The area in which our university has fallen short is with our Board of Trustees and Rodney Erickson. On the other hand, it consistently exceeds other top universities with its academics, research, and athletic endeavors. It’s safe to say that the only area within Penn State to have a culture “problem” is within the Board of Trustees. Your question, “Do you ask yourself why you do or don’t retain certain types of employees?” is apt. I could not agree more. On behalf of the alumni, I accept your resignation.

  • 13. Steve '69 in VA  |  October 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    Ditto to all that is being said here … Peetz are you listening? Hello? Are you listening? Hello … anyone there? What’s wrong … Corbett not moving your puppet strings so you can listen?

  • 14. Alice Pope  |  October 28, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Questioning the university’s culture is fair. So if you are going to question it, Ms. Peetz, ask some questions. Review the objective data. Hold focus groups. Include all constituencies of the university community. Be transparent about this process and about the outcomes. That is how you engage in an assessment.

    Letting the Freeh report — which you have stated the Board has not and will not review — and the NCAA tell US about our culture, on the basis of the most questionable assumptions and thin evidence imaginable — is NOT how you learn something so important about your own institution. Allowing this utterly unexamined fiction to be publically disseminated, with the understanding that the Board agrees with it, is the height of ineptitude.

  • 15. wlevinson  |  October 28, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Re: “Allowing this utterly unexamined fiction to be publically disseminated, with the understanding that the Board agrees with it, is the height of ineptitude.”

    I think the blame for the NCAA’s illegitimate sanctions can be laid squarely at Karen Peetz’s feet. Her de facto robo-signing of the Freeh Report, when she said Paterno’s record had been “marred,” gave Mark Emmert the excuse he needed to vacate Paterno’s wins (and those of the team) without exercising due process or due diligence himself. Not that it really excuses him, and his going outside the NCAA’s written rules (which conveniently disappeared from the NCAA’s Web site) reflects on his own character and integrity, but the bottom line is that it wouldn’t have happened if Peetz had done her job.

    –Bill Levinson B.S. ’78

  • 16. Gary Werkheiser  |  October 28, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Amen to these well thought out comments. Like a true politician, Ms Peetz answers a question with a question, which means she does not answer the question. The alumni deserve honest answers to honest questions, not the BS we are getting. And when will the Penn Stater start to be an advocate for alumni and their legitimate questions and concerns, not a PR piece for the BoT?

  • 17. Linda Berkland  |  October 28, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    I become increasingly angry every time one of the Board members says they are not going comment on anyone’s guilt or innocence. I heard it from Mark Dambly and now Ms. Peetz says that in her interview with The Penn Stater. But, both Ken Frazier AND Karen Peetz did EXACTLY THAT at the press conference held on July 12, 2012. Ken Frazier named Spanier, Paterno, Schultz and Curley and then, a second time, said there was NO QUESTION that Paterno and others failed to protect children. Ms. Peetz said that due to the “clarity” of the findings in the report, that Joe’s 61 years are now “marred”. If that’s not assigning guilt or blame, I don’t know what is!! Both Ms. Peetz and Mr. Frazier also blamed Graham Spanier for not stressing to board the severity of the situation. The first step in “moving on” is for the board to admit that they have botched the handling of this scandal since the very first day! The knee jerk reactions, rush to judgment, and blatant disregard for the truth is astonishing. It’s not okay to allow the lives and reputations of good and honorable people to be ruined in order to make a public relations statement. Tim Curley and Gary Schultz will get their day in court. What about the other men? The Board of Trustees tried and convicted them both without one shred of credible evidence that they did anything wrong. I cannot and will not move forward with the current board steering this ship!

  • 18. wlevinson  |  October 28, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Re: “I become increasingly angry every time one of the Board members says they are not going comment on anyone’s guilt or innocence. I heard it from Mark Dambly and now Ms. Peetz says that in her interview with The Penn Stater. But, both Ken Frazier AND Karen Peetz did EXACTLY THAT at the press conference held on July 12, 2012. Ken Frazier named Spanier, Paterno, Schultz and Curley and then, a second time, said there was NO QUESTION that Paterno and others failed to protect children. Ms. Peetz said that due to the “clarity” of the findings in the report, that Joe’s 61 years are now “marred”. If that’s not assigning guilt or blame, I don’t know what is!! ”

    The only “clarity” we have here is that the Chairwoman of the Board of Trustees of Penn State has made an obviously dishonest statement to the alumni of the organization to which she owes fiduciary responsibility.

    Like I said, when one tries to cover up a defect in judgment (Nov. 9), one usually succeeds only in compromising one’s character, which Ms. Peetz did in the Nov/Dec. Penn Stater.

  • 19. PSUMom  |  October 28, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Stop with the ‘double talk’, get your head out of glorified sand and try to tap into your common sense. This is more of the same garbage. No one is buying your double talk, answering questions with questions-you really are out of touch.
    What world do you live in? How can you effectively do your job, be a wife/mother and serve on a gazillion boards effectively? You cannot. It is time for you to move on-your continue to hurt Penn State. Please Karen, put your ego aside and do the right think. Step down immediately.

  • 20. Marianne Trojan Williams  |  October 28, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Karen,
    You keep telling us all we need to “move on.” I for one am unable to do so until EVERYONE has received due process. You say that the board did not make any determinations regarding guilt or innocence of the parties. I beg to differ. The board’s firing of Joe Paterno, as well as the actions taken regarding Graham Spanier, Tim Curley and Gary Schultz last November CLEARLY said to the world that YOU HAD made such a determination, based on absolutely NO FACTS! We are coming up on a year since this travesty came crashing down on our University, and we are in no better shape. You and the rest of the board allowed what was the Sandusky scandal, to become a Penn State Football Scandal. Disgusting!

    I wonder, and honestly it has kept me up at night, how a board full of Penn State Alumni can be content with this situation that you’ve created. Our University is in shambles, yet a board full of alumni don’t seem to care–why is that, Karen? It’s incredibly distressing to me. I love Penn State, it molded me into the person I am today. I WILL NOT move on until ALL the facts are out. And by facts, I CERTAINLY do not in any way mean the Freeh report. That the board OK’d $6.5million for a report full of holes, and then you proceed to tell us that you will not be reviewing it in its entirety is baffling.

    We need strong, honest, open leadership–we are not getting that from you and the majority of the board. The status quo is NOT working. Someone needs to stand up for Penn State before there is no Penn State for which to stand up!

  • 21. mrs516  |  October 28, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Ms. Peetz, please stop treating us like customers or employees. We are neither.

    If a bank chooses to allow the administration to trash its reputation and ruin it financially, the customers move on to another bank. If an employee finds that the way his/her company is conducting itself is against their principles, they can move on. They are not forever tied to these companies. Noone is heartbroken when their former bank or employer looks ridiculous to the nation. WE ARE forever tied to the university, by our diplomas, our degrees, and our hearts. The alumni are heartbroken by what has happened to the reputation of Penn State.

    The nation was watching to see how the Penn State administration reacted to the crisis being reported to the media. The actions of the board of trustees when they fired Joe Paterno, allowed Freeh to conduct a news conference without being given time to read and respond to his flawed report, and asking the NCAA for the unprecedented sanctions that were completely out of their juisdiction, told the nation WE ARE GUILTY.

    Jerry Sandusky committed these crimes. The actions of the board allowed Penn State to forever be tied to them.

  • 22. Peggi Munkittrick  |  October 28, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Ms. Peetz, by publicly stating that due to the “clarity” of the findings in the Freeh report, that Joe’s 61 years of service are now “marred”. ”And by allowing this report to be publicly disseminated, with the impression that the Board agrees with it, is the height of ineptitude. If that’s not assigning guilt or blame, I don’t know what is!! You, of all people, should be demanding a full and complete investigation of the Sandusky Scandal in order to truly evaluate what role, if any, Penn State played in it. How dare you act as judge and executioner?? If you can’t stand up for us, then it’s time to stand down. You, Ms. Peetz, need to move on!

  • 23. Stephen J. Fotos  |  October 28, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    I cannot muster sufficient words to express how thoroughly disgusted I am with this Board of Trustees and their appointed President. If they had a shred of self respect or regard for Penn State they would resign. Instead we are going to be subjected to the stench of their conduct and the continued ineptitude of their decisions for many more years. I can only pray that I love long enough to see their departure.

  • 24. Dr. David Whitall  |  October 28, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    So when Curley and Schultz are exonerated, will the BOT seek to discredit the Freeh report on which the NCAA sanctions where based?

  • 25. Deborah Beidel  |  October 28, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    As I reflect on the events of the past year, it strikes me that Ms. Peetz’s comments reflect a leadership vacuum. We have what Michael J. Fox, in the movie ‘The American President’ described as an absence of genuine leadership. As his character noted “And in the absence of genuine leadership, they will listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They’re so thirsty for it, they’ll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there’s no water, they’ll drink the sand.”

    However, the BOT is not stepping forward to lead, they are just stepping up to the microphone. They are telling us to pay no attention to whatever is behind the curtain and to “move on.” They believe that we will crawl through the desert, arrive at the mirage and drink what is there. Now they are calling anyone who disagrees with them “anarchists” because we will not blindly listen to those at the microphone – because we question if the water is real. Somehow they do not grasp the obvious. We know the difference. We are NOT going to drink the sand.

  • 26. Karen Wilson  |  October 29, 2012 at 1:16 am

    “Karen Bretherick Peetz ’77 didn’t waste any time. She didn’t beat around the bush.”

    I beg to differ. That’s exactly what she did, AGAIN. No answers, just a bunch of gobbledygook.

    Subject One…the Freeh Report.

    Response: Jishalp gkdois slugh diren sirpdow wouoreun doiguisrmls.

    Subject two: Did the board understand that the Freeh report would be used by the NCAA as a justification for sanctions.

    “I will not get into the NCAA’s rationale—“that’s unproductive at best, divisive at worst” and then…she redirected those of us that seemingly do not understand the decision to read a transcript.

    HELLO?

    Due Process.

    In a paper he prepared for Law Day in 1961, entitled “Why Due Process”, Judge Goodman wrote,

    Inroads into, and shortcuts around our basic laws safeguarding individual rights, are too easily accepted – due to indifference, or callousness, or to too quick yielding to the clamor of those who seek to glorify an end, no matter what the means.

    To proceed step by step in every process which affects life or liberty is, at times a tiresome and tedious procedure. The temptation to the short cuts I have mentioned is often strong. The hysteria and clamor of the moment are distracting. Temporary acclaim and momentary grandeur are very tempting fruits.

    Karen Peetz, do you hear bells ringing??

  • 27. dougalmac  |  October 29, 2012 at 1:27 am

    In reading the many well-expressed comments to the continued incompetence, arrogance and leadership failures of Erikson, Peetz and those members of the BoT in place as of last Nov., it is striking to note that NOT ONE comment praises them at all. Erickson and the BoT have been given an overwhelming “vote of no confidence” here and on the many social media outlets like Facebook and Twitter populated by PS alumni. As the overwhelming numerical majority of the PS community, the PS alumni can no longer countenance the absolute failures of the BoT and their self-installed puppet PSU president Erickson. Peetz keeps asking for understanding and time which she cannot have. The vast amjority of the alumni clearly feel the BoT is no longer credible and must step down. They reject Peetz’s and Erickson’s rationalizations for their failed leadership and bad decisions since last Nov. The BoT and Erickson need to quit stalling for time or a reprieve which will never come. THEY MUST ALL GO, and we must set about the work of reforming the board and restructuring the organizational mess that has left us with failures like Peetz and Erickson leading us down a road to certain disaster. If we sweep them aside, we will easily be able to find trustees from within the alumni ranks to fill the board with responsible, credible leaders. No “anarchy” is involved here whatsoever. The PS alumni can no longer allow this irresponsible and incompetent BoT with any more chances to damage or destroy Penn State.

  • 28. Steve M  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:06 am

    We knew before this article that Peetz and the rest of the BOT in place in November had sold their soul, and the good name of Joe Paterno, to cover their own rear ends. What we didn’t know before this article is that the Alumni Association and specifically the editors and writers and The PennStater have lost their integrity in an effort to please the BOT and Peetz. We need to take our University back from these people before they destroy it.

  • 29. Steve '69 in VA  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:51 am

    I usually see 0-4 comments on articles here, this is tremendous … so far NONE for the Board of Traitors! Please keep it coming … 600K responses would be great!

  • 30. Psu2000  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:03 am

    I guess we should not be surprised that the Penn State Board of Trustees continues to put their faith in people like Peetz and Erickson. From the minute they fired Coach Paterno without cause in November 2011 their message has been that “Penn State is guilty” and our “football culture is the cause.” What nonsense! Endorsing the unread Freeh report, accepting the unfair NCAA sanctions, and opening the university’s checkbook to people who have no reason to blame Penn State for Sandusky’s crimes are just three examples of their failed leadership. The fact that Peetz continues to spew her “move on” message without providing answers to legitimate questions is astounding.

  • 31. Maribeth Roman Schmidt  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Karen – The one tough question the Penn Stater Magazine has yet to ask you is: “One year later, looking back at the way this tragedy was handled, what would you have done differently?” Let me take a stab at that for you. 1) The apparent “culture” of passive board oversight should have been different. When FOUR – count them, FOUR — trustees were informed of a grand jury subpoena last spring, they did nothing. Didn’t ask a single question. Didn’t express one iota of concern for potential consequences. With the benefit of hindsight, YOU, Ms. Chairwoman of the Board should have asked the tough questions and prepared for every scenario, regardless of whether (or not) Graham Spanier minimized the situation. You had plenty of time, and you failed the University — long before November 9. 2) The apparent “culture” of fire-first, due-process-be-damned should have been different. You and your cronies sat around blindly, enjoying all the riches of a celebratory football season, believing that a grand jury investigation featuring the testimony of every single major ranking Penn State official (and then some) was somehow no big deal. And, then when it became one, you neither backed up the two men charged with perjury, nor ordered an immediate internal investigation into what exactly happened. Instead, you pointed the finger at the single most generous, loyal and impactful man to ever grace the campus of Penn State. Ms. Chairwoman, you had every opportunity to ask Joe Paterno the tough questions. Instead, you took the quick and easy way out, and the one that catapulted Penn State into the national spotlight as a knowing pedophile harborer. You ignored him. And you fired him, without cause. 3) The apparent “culture” of assigning the most critical tasks in the history of Penn State to buddies of board members should have been different. I ask you again, and publicly: Where is the letter of intent and scope of work provided to Louis Freeh and what exactly was he directed to report? There are anecdotes dating back to December that Freeh’s team had already completed their findings because they were charged by the Board with finding Joe Paterno and the football team responsible. They were unbelievable when heard in December; and then completely plausible after reading the report in July. You’ve stated that, as the “client,” the Board could not challenge Freeh’s flawed findings. Really? I’ve never heard anything so bogus. You know that report’s not complete; that it’s filled with errors and innuendo; and most importantly, that it’s not even true. You failed Penn State when you publicly gave an A-plus to a paper that didn’t even earn an F. 4) The apparent “culture” of taking what the NCAA dishes out should have been different. It is sickening that you allowed Freeh’s report to be used as the basis for sanctions that harmed literally hundreds of thousands of people who had nothing to do with Jerry Sandusky and his crimes. Every trustee should have stood united in defense of Penn State, instead of in fear. By not doing so, every one of you failed every one of us. And 5) The apparent culture of “look away,” “keep on driving,” “move on” should have been — and SHOULD BE different. Who counseled you that assigning blame to everyone — including this year’s football team through their undeserved blue ribbon adornments — EXCEPT the Board of Trustees and moving on as quickly as possible was the path toward healing? I can assure you, Ms. Chairwoman, it is not. You and your misguided colleagues may have Penn State degrees, but you are not Penn Staters. Through your collective and continual incompetence, you have come to represent the only flawed “culture” Penn State is in need of changing. And, that change cannot come soon enough.

  • 32. Patty Kirschner  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Ok, Guys…for more impossible to believe complicity and incompetence, read the release below taken from the BoT’s website. Lass Friday, the Board approved a Resolution allowing them to grant financial settlements to people ALLEGING harm from Sandusky. The Resolution does not require that a claiment be PROVEN in a Court of Law to have been harmed. It specifically allows that “Penn State will decide for itself…whether it is appropriate to try and resolve a dispute.” It reports that there could be “20-25 claiments” (Sandusky has been found guilty of abusing only TEN boys) and that the claims are “easily expected to reach into the milliobns”. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Now the Board, contrary to their continuous denails, REALLY IS taking the position of jury,prosecuter and judge, and the result will be MILLOINS of OUR $$ spent for purposes other than furthering higher education. Are there any attorneys out there? Can we make a Class Action to stop this willful misappropriation of the University’s assets???

    By Mark Shade

    STATE COLLEGE, Pa., Oct 26 (Reuters) – Penn State University’s Board of Trustees passed a resolution on Friday giving a special committee the authority to approve settlements on the school’s behalf with victims of convicted child sex offender Jerry Sandusky.

    The resolution passed unanimously, although several board members were not present, including Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett.

    Sandusky, 68, the former defensive coordinator for the Penn State football team, is in state prison after being sentenced to 30 to 60 years for his June conviction on 45 counts of sexually abusing 10 boys.

    Attorneys working to settle with Sandusky’s victims said there could be 20 to 25 claimants. Settlements are easily expected to reach into the millions, analysts have said.

    The university’s trustees held the meeting in the same hotel that will host Penn State’s national conference on child sexual abuse prevention beginning on Sunday.

    Lawyers advised the board that the special resolution was not required. But President Karen Peetz said because the potential settlements are “special circumstances,” the board would consider the matter anyway.

    Ken Feinberg, an attorney who directed the Sept. 11 victims’ fund, has been retained along with negotiator Mike Rozen to handle any settlements.

    Feinberg said he has no authority to bind Penn State to any settlement and he indicated the university had not disclosed how much money he has to resolve claims.

    “Each case stands on its own. Each case will be evaluated on the merits. Each case will either be resolved or not resolved,” Feinberg said.

    “Penn State will decide for itself in each particular case how much information it needs to evaluate in order to decide whether it is appropriate to try and resolve a dispute,” he said.

    Rozen said conversations with attorneys for the claimants have been good so far and conducted “in good faith.”

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    © 2012

  • 33. Debby Rippey  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:39 am

    To support Maribeth’s sentiment that those of you on the Board who have degrees from Penn State are not Penn Staters, I hereby put forth the recommendation that your degrees be vacated just as you allowed the football team’s wins to be vacated.

  • 34. the BOTisajoke!  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:41 am

    Karen, at one point in time you said Spanier needed to be fired because given his position as President, he needed to see that this problem would not as small as he thought it was. To use your term, he needed to be a better “risk manager.” Well Karen, the board also needed this clairvoyance via the NCAA. You all failed to take into account how the NCAA would use the free report to hand down its sanctions, so why aren’t you stepping down for the same reasons you fired Spanier? Did you really not know that the NCAA would not use that report when you decided to not challenge anything? Oh wait, I forgot, you also said at one point that you folks are not attorneys. Anyone who takes the time to look at the bios of some of the board would notice that some of you are attorneys. And even if none of you are, can you actually be so dumb as to use that as an excuse? If no one is an attorney, and that’s the excuse you’re sticking with, how in the world did you guys not hire one to help with this mess? Spanier may have needed to be a better risk manager, but you guys/gals make him look good.

  • 35. Thomas Bellet 1981  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Virtually everything bad that has happened to Penn State rests on the assumption that Mike McQueary should have total credibility in his version of events, particularly in what he says he told Curley, Schultz and Paterno. There is every reason to doubt that he told them explicitly what he now says went on in the shower. He himself has said that he was not explicit with Joe, and he has every reason now embellish to what he said to Curley and Schultz. The less he shifts blame to them, the more he becomes responsible for everything that transpired from that point on regarding the abuse perpetrated by Sandusky, as well as the fallout from those crimes.

  • 36. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Ms Peetz: If you performed your duties at BNY Mellon with as little acumen as you have displayed on OUR Board of Trustees, you would have been looking for a new job long ago. You have talked about accountability but have yet to back up your words with actions. Who is accountable for allowing the Freeh report to go unchallenged regarding its questionable judgments and then grant them center stage? To put it in the context of a bank, you gave the guy a gun, escorted him to the teller’s window, put the money in his bag and then provided him with a getaway car. Who is responsible for this if not you and your cronies? You have turned this university into a place I no longer recognize.

  • 37. Maribeth Roman Schmidt  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Remember the Town Hall meetings of last January — in Phila, Pitts and NYC? Where the Board of Trustees sent Rodney Erickson into the “Lion’s Den” to field alumni questions that could really only be answered by the Trustees? I would like to formally request a “comeback tour” of those meetings, featuring the Trustees this time, and inclusive of alumni throughout the entire country. Large venues. Five to ten cities. Unlimited time (so as not to incur the “time’s up” constraints of the board meetings). And full disclosure. Planted, controlled Q&As and articles such as these are unproductive at best, and divisive at worst. The answers provided by Ms. Peetz just aren’t super-relevant.

  • 38. Penn State Clips  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:57 am

    On November 17, 2011, the NCAA sent an official letter of inquiry regarding the Sandusky Scandal.

    But the University didn’t hire NCAA compliance defense counsel Gene Marsh until July 11, 2012, according to Don Van Natta of ESPiN.com.

    Why did the University wait almost eight months before seeking advice from experts?

    When other schools are in trouble they hire compliance defense counsel to maintain back-channel communications with the NCAA, as a way of reaching a fair settlement. Obviously Penn State didn’t do this.

    Is it any wonder that the NCAA announced a near-death experience for Penn State football just weeks after the release of the “independent” Freeh Report?

  • 39. Todd Speck  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:57 am

    I have come to the conclusion that the Pennsylvania State University’s Board of Trustees has done an outstanding job. Karen Peetz and crew have had to make some tough decisions while in the face of adversities. While most here would disagree with their decisions we must look at them as a whole and not with “Blinders” on. Take for example the great decision to….umm no that’s not a good example. How about when they chose to…..umm sorry another bad example. But they did….wait crap they failed at that too. Never mind they still suck!!!

  • 40. Todd Speck  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:01 am

    If the NCAA charged Penn State with “Lack of INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL”, why then do the people in CONTROL of the INSTITUTION still have their jobs?

  • 41. studentpractitioner  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Peetz is ridiculous! We see right thorough her. Stop selling your very poor job of protecting and fighting for Penn State. Stop rationalizing the biggest joke of BOT behavior in history. You are not going to get away with the falsehoods you repeat and concoct. The shame in all this is you! Please listen to the Penn State Community and resign. We do Not want you! GET OUT!

  • 42. Matt Prisby  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:32 am

    To Karen and the rest of the 11/9/11 BoT, only one action by any of the aforementioned BoT has been the right one, Mr. Garban resigned. He took FULL responsibility for his actions/inactions. Everyday the rest of you remain on the BoT means we remain in a leadership vacuum. It is long past time to do the right thing, resign now!

  • 43. Paula Hough  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:37 am

    There is nothing wrong with the “culture” of Penn State…..There never was. Any college that has team spirit for their football team could be accused of having a “football culture.” The only culture problem lies with the BOT. The type I speak of is a BOT culture of weakness and fear of PR. The Penn State BOT did not stand up for who it is was to represent-every student and alumni of Penn State. First, I lost my faith in the BOT with the firing of Joe Paterno (who was not under investigation and did report to his supervisors what he was told-How did you think the community would react to the way you fired him? No one deserves to be treated with such a lack of respect-especially for all the good he brought to Penn State. I work in the education field, and after reporting such an incident, the reporter’s responsibility ends. They are to STAY OUT of the investigation and not to probe into it further–just ask any detective or investigator.) But as Gov. Corbett said, ” Something must be done!” Decisions were made without thought and time for possible investigation. Secondly, the BOT’s decision to accept the “independent” Freeh report without reading the whole document that still had changes to be made (including important dates) during the weeks following the release of the report was a disaster. Did the BOT ever think how this would affect Penn State?—to take ALL the blame for what Sandusky did, even though blame could go back to other schools where attacks happened, the Second Mile involvement, Gov. Corbett’s lack of action and investigation, McQueary’s changing story, the Philadelphia connection and cover up……my list could go on. Only when the BOT starts defending Penn State and takes complete responsibility for their poor decisions (that have made the Sandusky crimes all of “Penn State’s responsibility”), until an apology is stated and made public to the Paterno family, Joe’s statue is brought out of storage and placed back where people can see it again, and until Joe Paterno is remembered in a significant way will I begin to believe in the idea of the BOT again. When difficult times came along, the BOT weakened to PR and failed to defend and stand by Penn State and its culture- A culture with high academics and standards-a culture that cares for children and the community. Penn State was always more than football……Ms. Karen Peetz: Why do you and other BOT members fail to see that?

  • 44. Laurie Anne Stanell B.S. '80 D.M.D.  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:47 am

    I have had my own business for 24 years and yes you do have to look at the abstract sometimes Ms. Peetz, but many times the business model square pegs do not fit into the round holes. As I see it we have 3 parts to this puzzle and as heard in the stadium last weekend at PSU vs OSU , 2 parts, the alumni and the students are UNITED and ready to move forward as you say as long as our “sanctions” are met. The 3rd part of this business model is the administration and YOU are hindering the moving forward. And YOU the administration created this “problem” of anarchy. We were content and trusting of the administration until last year when all this rushing brought all these judgements on OUR PENN STATE. Sooo Penn State administrators, please get this model united join the other parts of the abstract , the students and alumni so we all can change And move forward.
    For the Glory, together….
    Laurie Anne Stanell D.M.D. , B.S. Biology 1980

  • 45. Helen Page Woodyard  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Erickson need to read the results of the Alumni Association Opinion Survey released in June if he is confused about what alumni think. 75% think the Board got Joe’s firing wrong and 15% think they handled the “scandal/investigation” right. 87% think the University should publicly honor Joe for his years of service. http://alumni.psu.edu/about_us/2012-alumni-opinion-survey

  • 46. Bobbie Hampson  |  October 29, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    In addition to everything written above, I would like to say unequivocally that I feel your actions, and those of other BOT members have significantly devalued our children’s degrees. Sandusky didn’t do that, you did. Seniors and recent grads have had to endure all kinds of abuse as they “CAN,” participate in sporting events, apply for jobs, try to conduct their daily lives. – as have we all.
    What are your plans to remedy what you have wrought?

  • 47. Matt Prisby  |  October 29, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Rodney,
    Your comment that opinions about recognizing Joe indicate the timing is not right shows me that once again something has not been read. Here is the result of a survey on that issue Penn State should publicly recognize Joe Paterno for his years of service to Penn State.
    8-10 87% 5-7 7% 0-4 3%
    10 – COMPLETELY AGREE 76% 9 6% 8 5% 7 3% 6 1% 5 3% 4* 3 1% 2* 1* 0 – COMPLETELY DISAGREE 1%
    Don’t know/not sure 3% Mean 9.3
    9.3 is the response average. These stats are from a survey of the alumni done earlier this year!

  • 48. Matt Prisby  |  October 29, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Karen,
    Please take a moment for a reality check and read this survey of the alumni. http://alumni.psu.edu/about_us/2012-alumni-opinion-survey Please pay particular attention to question 23, where the BoT has a response average of 4. If after reading this you still believe that the opposition to the BoT is by a vocal minority, then you will only be confirming my assessment of your analysis and judgment skills, which is they are not sufficient enough for you to be representing us on the BoT.

  • 49. S Luis  |  October 29, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    What about John Surma and the Surma Family vendetta against Joe Paterno? Surma is a slim ball of a man.
    Karma John Surma and Karen Peetz. You two have created a culture where we know longer trust the University to do what is right and true. You roll over and accept falsehoods -not seeking the truth.
    You continue to spit on the person who brought pride, a national spotlight, research funds and alumni funds to support our university. Paterno had morals- doing what is right, etc. Coach Paterno showed us all that it is moral to do the right thing, everyday by the way he lived his life. He was not perfect, but he tried- even if you don’t ‘win’, stand up for and support each other.
    He had vision years ago, when the BoT did nothing but enjoy their ‘perks’. He and his family gladly gave of their time and their pocketbook.
    Surma and Peetz, you are sucking the life blood from a wonderful institution while you feed your egos and line your pockets (or enjoy your perks). You have caused our graduates to have to defend their beloved school and be insulted when they interview for jobs.
    YOU have hurt a team of upstanding young men who have shouldered a burden created by YOU-who had nothing to do with this mess.
    No “spin” you keep putting out there will change our view of you. WE are not stupid and WE are not lemmings. And WE DID NOT CREATE THIS MESS!
    For the love of God and all that is true-step aside. You are guilty of a lack of leadership- all that you have accused others.

  • 50. wlevinson  |  October 29, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Re: “Last Friday, the Board approved a Resolution allowing them to grant financial settlements to people ALLEGING harm from Sandusky. The Resolution does not require that a claiment be PROVEN in a Court of Law to have been harmed. It specifically allows that “Penn State will decide for itself…whether it is appropriate to try and resolve a dispute.” It reports that there could be “20-25 claiments” (Sandusky has been found guilty of abusing only TEN boys) and that the claims are “easily expected to reach into the milliobns”. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Now the Board, contrary to their continuous denails, REALLY IS taking the position of jury,prosecuter and judge, and the result will be MILLOINS of OUR $$ spent for purposes other than furthering higher education. Are there any attorneys out there? Can we make a Class Action to stop this willful misappropriation of the University’s assets???”

    People with standing to sue, e.g. students who are paying tuition, probably needs to see a lawyer. I would encourage that at this point. Matters have reached the point where a court of law probably needs to step in and take control of Penn State away from its so-called Trustees. (Not legal advice, I am not a lawyer.)

  • 51. Chrissy Ert  |  October 29, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    Not only have you destroyed the reputation of this fine university in the way in which you have allowed it to take the fall for Sandusky’s despicable behavior, you have also impeded an investigation into the Second Mile and other entities who are truly involved, by allowing, and even encouraging itnto be the Penn State scandal. You are the true child predator enablers. Those boos Saturday night weren’t just for Rodney Ericson. Please know, Karen they were directed at you as well.

  • 52. Jeff Roby  |  October 29, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I have read 5 or 6 full analyses of the Freeh report, all by legal people, some with ties to Penn State and others with no ties. None have concluded that the report was fair or credible and all listed serious flaws with the report. My question to Ms Peetz is “When is the University going to spend some money to hire a credible organization to do an unbiased report and find out what really occurred with the Second Mile Scandal”. Only after that is done can we feel any level of confidence in what happened. And, only then will there be any chance for Penn State to have its reputation somewhat restored.

  • 53. Jeffrey Simons, PSU '96  |  October 29, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    51 comments and not one word of defense for the Board of Trustees or Karen Peetz. NOT ONE WORD. Can’t even get Ken Fazeier to throw a shill ID on here and ramble about how the Freeh report was INDEPENDENT and THOROUGH. 100,000 strong alumni and students expressed their opinions this Saturday to Rod Erickson and David Joyner. The real question that Peetz needs to answer . . . is there ANYTHING that will allow reality to seep into this Board of Trustees??

  • 54. Dave Ketchen (2012 Smeal Graduate Distinguished Achievement Award winner)  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    The lies continue. There is in fact minimal “divergence” among alumni about honoring Joe. Look at question 23 in the Alumni Association’s 2012 survey: http://alumni.psu.edu/about_us/2012-alumni-opinion-survey

    People were asked on a 10 point scale to react to this statement:

    Penn State should publicly recognize Joe Paterno for his years of service to Penn State.

    And the surveys says:

    8, 9 or 10 was picked by 87%
    A score from 5-7 was picked by 7%
    A score from 0-4 was picked by 3%

    A full 76% picked 10 – COMPLETELY AGREE

    The mean across all responses was 9.3

    The resounding boos at halftime on Saturday spoke volumes. We do not believe in you, Mr. President, or in the BOT.

  • 55. Karen Heilig Decker  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    I have no interest in anything Karen Peetz has to say, unless it’s her apology to the Paterno family, and her resignation announcement.

    May no act of ours bring shame. Indeed.

  • 56. REB Class of '89  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    I am willing to move on when Peetz resigns. Until then, not another dime of my money will ever go to Dear Old State again. Ms. Peetz, you are a disgrace.

  • 57. Mike  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Peetz, Erickson and a majority of the trustees have caused nearly as much harm to our university as that exaggerated (at best) grand jury presentment. They all need to resign so that we can get new leaders that actually care about our university and will stand up for it.

  • 58. studentpractitioner  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Peetz continues to play hide n’ seek, and especially plays with the semantics of the word “culture.” She is lying to all the alumni and she knows it. There was nothing wrong with the graduation rate of 91% at Penn State. Stop playing word games with the culture issue. This is not a small extreme group who disagrees with you ~ News Alert! It is most everybody across the nation. Resign now and stop trying to COVER UP your horrible politics. You are NOT a “TRUSTEE”. We do not trust you. You have brought endless bad decisions to the university and you continue to undermine our intelligence. RESIGN!!

  • 59. Bob Boyer  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Sadly this executive board of trustees lacks the dignity to admit their failures and realize that moving on is impossible with them in charge.
    John Surma should have been forced to resign due to both his failure to notify the entire board of the Sandusky situation and his failed actions last November. Peetz and Frasier should also resign for the good of Penn State and take a couple other cronies with them. The actions of the BOT have caused more damage to Penn State than Sandusky’s sick actions. It’s like these fools didn’t even think about the cost of signing the consent decree…..Sorry, Karen you have failed miserably………..

  • 60. Adele Gillispie Juzi '52  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Ditto

  • 61. John Gray  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    I am very disappointed in the actions of the BOT. The students did nothing wrong. The faculty did nothing wrong. The student athletes did nothing wrong. The alumni did nothing wrong. There has been no due process, just capitulation. It is time the BOT of a great institution stop apologizing for the acts of so few, but rather support the many going forward.

    For the Glory,

  • 62. enpstine Stine  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    I find this piece in the Penn Stater a waste of time and space in the magazine.

    No where did Peetz provide any answer to any of the questions asked. She’s vague – which tells me Peetz, Erickson and the rest of the Board are covering something BIG up.

    Why?

    Is it because it is illegal? – Would like to have or request an investigation of the land deals that have taken place under Peetz / Erickson’s watch.

  • 63. PSU grad 2001  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    The leadership of PSU needs to resign. At this point the alumni no longer trust them to make decisions that are in the best interest for the PSU community. Since last November their decisions have been short sighted and self serving. Due process has been ignored through this whole scandal. Time for new leadership to lead the way into the future.

  • 64. Brad Allen  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Sad, very sad…..please give all of the information a chance to unfold and time will tell a very different story regarding Paterno and Penn State. Neither were given their American right of due process and their day to be heard in court, but the truth will eventually come out in full and we (Peetz, Erickson, and the BoT) must allow that to occur for the past, present, and future of our beloved Penn State!

  • 65. Vic Sprouse, Chem E '90  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    The basic fact is that by not questioning the Freeh report or its findings, the BOT and President Erickson allowed the NCAA to stream roll our football program and promote this phantom “culture” problem at Penn State across the country. You know, the culture problem that graduates 90%+ of its student athletes.

    The course they laid in front of us by their inaction and ineptitude will not be forgotten. There is no coming back from this by this board. There is no regaining the trust of the alumni. Ms. Peetz, the BOT, and Mr. Erickson have lost the trust of the alumni.

    And, I’m sorry, but there is LITTLE divergence among the alumni on Paterno. It’s an excuse that as long as one alumni doesn’t want a tribute to Paterno and what he gave this university, then there is enough “divergence” to not even have the backbone to allow for a MOMENT OF SILENCE for a guy that gave 61 years of his life devoted to Penn State. Pathetic and unforgivable.

  • 66. PSU04  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    The BoT has totally botched this whole thing since day 1. Everything was a knee-jerk reaction to appease the media firestorm. And even after they had months to reflect on everything, they let Freeh get up there in July and make ridiculous accusations after never even seeing the report themselves!! Totally irresponsible from the beginning when they knew of a possible firestorm brewing back in March 2011 when a freakin article about Sandusky was in the paper! Their response – “we didn’t know about that.” TOTALLY inexcusable!!

  • 67. mnespsu04  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    It’s time for Ms. Peetz, all BOT members seated at the time of the break of the Sandusky scandel, and their puppet Erickson to move on indeed.

  • 68. Rhonda, HPA '90  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    I am ashamed–ASHAMED–that you, Ms. Peetz, and you, Pres. Erickson, are “leading” my beloved PSU. And for what it’s worth, those boos during Saturday’s football game were directed at YOU, Rod. Let’s make no mistake about it. We alumni and fans are pissed.

  • 69. Scott Burchill  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Let’s just make this short and sweet. I don’t have a problem looking at anything the university does in regard to culture or processes. But the failure starts at the top of the university which is a board that is way too large to be affective and needs new blood. I personally don’t think the culture at PSU is a problem. I think the problem was denial by upper administration. I’m not sure there was direct knowledge as was “ALLEGED” in the Freeh report. I won’t even get started on that document which was put together by an ex-prosecutor. I think it is an abomination that the university threw those men under the bus without due process. They MAY be guilty but how can anyone get a fair trial now. There is nowhere in the world unless you went to some remote country with no media. I think the handling of the whole situation was terrible from the beginning and got worse overtime. I have spoken to hundreds of alumni to get their take and they all seem to be in some agreement that the university handled the situation poorly and hired the WRONG man to review the internal handling of the events. In the end I’m not sure we will ever know the exact facts about what happened internally, but I do know the structure of the board MUST change for the university to forge in the right direction!! At least that is my opinion. Thanks.

    Scott Burchill
    2nd generation PSU grad 1990

  • 70. recvplus  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    The egomanic Peetz and puppet Erickson continue their Destroy Penn State tour ever time they open their mouth. Is there no accountability to be had with these people. They have set a new standard for failure of leadership but continue to allowed to take the university down a path of financial pain and unparalled embarassment. All those responsible for the actions of the Board in November 2011 and the total ignorance of due process must go. Now.

  • 71. Todd Speck  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    I always eagerly await the arrival of the latest edition of the “Penn Stater”. However I heard Karen Peetz was doing an interview in the last one; I threw it in the trash unopened when it arrived. Because after what her and Mr. Erickson have done to our university, that’s where any thing from them belongs.

  • 72. Ray Blehar  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    After Erickson and Frazier CAUSED the near catastrophic action by the NCAA by telling them to use the Freeh Report, instead of conducting a LEGITIMATE investigation, Peetz says the Erickson was put in a tough postion. Well, Karen, it was a position of his making and YOUR MAKING as well. You were part of the Special Investigations Task Force that hired an INCOMPETENT investigator. You need to be held to account for making such a disastrous choice. So, does the rest of the task force. When the Freeh Report is exposed, and the federal investigation commences, you’ll see that you and the rest of the BOT are not nearly as smart as the other PSU alums who have seen through this charade.

  • 73. Beth  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Alumni and Penn State University fans are not satisfied with your hollow answers and avoidance of the facts. Your actions have been pitiful and your in action in the face of the attitude toward our university is unforgivable. The facts are very clear to many of us. You have failed us and the university at every turn and you do not deserve to be our trustees.

  • 74. Wendy Silverwood  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Madame Chair:
    In response to your two points above:

    1. Culture: Joe Paterno was an integral part of this University’s “culture”. He was woven into the essence of its fabric for over 6 decades. You yourself, benefitted from that essence.

    When you so unceremoniously yanked on that thread back in November 2011, you tore that precious fabric apart. One year later, it is still torn and getting frayed each day.

    No amount of duct tape, stapling or glue will repair that. You need to carefully darn that thread back in, do it right, and do it now.

    2. The NCAA: Emmert’s first reported contact with PSU is Nov. 17, 2011. They were updated every 2 weeks on the progress of the Freeh investigation.

    You don’t bother to retain Gene Marsh, the lawyer EXPERIENCED in dealing with the NCAA until July 11, 2012. 8 months after the first reported contact with the NCAA, 1 day before the Freeh Report, and he seems to have been engaged into negotiations 3 days AFTER Erickson and Emmert agreed to accept the Freeh Report as fact.

    Was Marsh simply hired as window dressing? What was Frank Guadagnino & his team of lawyers from Reed Smith doing? Their expertise is in financial services, not sports law. Most importantly most of Frank’s work seems to center around Mellon Financial.

    Something tells me this is not about Football, this is not about Culture, this about something Else.

    So what is it Madame Chair?

  • 75. Robert J Zucosky  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    You and certain other members of the board are guilty of malfeasance. If you think the alumni who detest how you’ve handled things are simply going to go away, you’ve severely underestimated the situation. Again. Your arrogance is incredible.

  • 76. Caroline Dixon '90  |  October 29, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Karen Peetz fails to recognize or understand that the “culture” at Penn State was never about football first as the media, Freeh and the BOT tried to spin it to be in order to divert blame from their mishandling to the innocent. We WILL NOT move on while you stay in office. We want the TRUTH and just in case you can’t see the forest through the trees, let me spell it out for you.
    1. Jerry Sandusky was a RETIRED Coach accused of despicable acts. This was NOT a “Penn State Scandal” except YOU made it one.
    2. The children that were abused are not the only victims in this mess, you saw to it that over 500,000 alumni and our current student body will suffer consequences for years to come.
    2. Joe Paterno did what he was supposed to do. HE ALWAYS DID!.
    3. PSU Officlals threw Joe under the bus without the benefit of due process.
    4. The BOT refused to acknowledge that firing him, tearing down his statue, and allowing the media to destroy his name is YOUR fault.
    5. POOR despicable decisions were made regarding the Freeh report and the NCAA which any true leaders would recognize and Move ON with their resignations.

    Your pompus attitudes have kept you from doing the right thing.

    We will move on when YOU get out of our way and allow us to repair what we can from the damage YOU have done.

  • 77. Brian Harner  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    The culture that needs to change at Penn State is the structure of the Board of Trustees. The BOT has the ultimate fiduciary responsibility to our university. What the BOT has done by commissioning a FactFreeh report, paying $6.5+ for it, and allowing it to be completed by someone who has close ties to a board member (a HUGE conflict of interest) is grossly shirking their responsibility as a fiduciary.

    My question is why are they not held accountable?

  • 78. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    It is possible that a fresh group of Trustees and a new President would arrive at the same conclusion you and your current Board have, and perhaps then I would be willing to consider being supportive of your efforts. However, as I have told you previously, I know of no other situation in an institution of this magnitude where the people in charge have been allowed to make so many mistakes and simply apologize and state you will do better. The first culture that needs to be changed is the Board and Administration. Your culture is one where money drives every decision, and you foster inbreeding to the extreme. Check the boards of other peer institutions and you will see a far smaller percentage of alums on the Board. Nothing can start to change my mind until there are new people on the Board and in the administration. I won’t even get into the quality of your comments.

  • 79. Ron Salimao  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Our BOT continue to show lack of leadership skills. The true leader understand when they have lost creditability, a true leader understand when they are doing more harm than good to organization.
    You continue to fail in your responsibilities please do the right thing and resign. The damage you inflicted on our university is unconscionable.
    The Penn State community deserves better.

  • 80. Todd Black  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    When will the BOT and the Penn State senior management realize that just insisting we “move on” isn’t a satisfactory answer to a significant number of alumni? Peetz and Erickson say examining our “culture” is a healthy exercise. I agree, but that examination MUST include the behavior of the BOT during this sad year for Penn State.
    So far as I can tell, only one BOT member who was at the helm during this crisis resigned. If Ms. Preetz and Dr. Erickson are serious about bringing the University past these horrific events, then anyone who was on the BOT when the Sandusky crimes were committed should, for the good of the University and to rebuild the trust of the Penn State family, resign to allow new leadership to take over.
    Until the management who brought us to this divisive state leaves, I cannot “move on”, and the Penn State Family cannot properly heal. The BOT was quick enough to have Dr. Spainer resign and to fire Coach Paterno for the good of the University. When will they do the right thing and allow new leadership to fix their poor management?
    The victims of Sandusky and the PSU students deserve better than what they are getting from the BOT.

  • 81. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    The leadership of PSU has ignored the economic impact of their rush to action starting with the excessive cost of the Freeh Report. The report is flawed and they are only using a portion of the report. They will not disclose the huge fees being spent for legal and PR firms. Why does the board need council? They are hurting the Penn State brand. If they cannot defend PSU step down. President Erickson needs to explain the NCAA negotiating process and fight to remove the sanctions. All these actions will cost the school hundreds of millions over the next four years. Please answer why a family would pay over $100,000 to a school with a declining academic value? PSU will loose revenue.

  • 82. enpstine  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    I totally agree – the “whole” Board of Trustee’s must go along with the President

  • 83. Chris  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Well said by comment #78. This entire board must step down for a failure of leadership at the time when the university needed it most.

  • 84. John Rooney '86  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    I am still waiting to hear from Ms. Peetz EXACTLY what aspects of the Penn State culture are concerning to her and in need of examination and possible change. It can’t possibly be that she would like the culture of Academics over Athletics that has yielded yet another significantly above average graduation rate among our football team to be changed so that we are more like all those below average major programs out there can it? Chairwoman Peetz, it is incumbent upon you as a leader to be far more specific about that. Also, why in the world would you not even take the opportunity of this Alumni Council meeting to publicize proudly the new graduation stats that show the culture is actually doing things right? If you are not going to champion the good things about this University proudly and stand up when mass media hyperbole runs the University down, you may not be the right person to be leading the Board of Trustees because you are not upholding the Trust we need you to uphold.

  • 85. Marylee Brennan Ferrell  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    From the time the Sandusky story broke, the BOT and new President Erickson’s behavior has been pathetic. Instead of standing up for PSU and Joe Paterno the have asked “How high?” when told to “jump”. They are both utteraly inept. This should never have been the Penn State Scandal this should have been the “Second Mile” scandal, the “Sandusky” scandal. PSU’s role was peripheral at best and Joe Paterno ALWAYS did the right thing. I was so appalled at their behavior that I immediately asked to be removed from all PSU mailing lists (even though I am a lifelong member of the Alumni Association) so I would no longer be subjected to the propaganda they spewed in little e-mails, etc. to Alums. But I absolutely want to maintain my BOT voting rights and have yet to receive a response from ANYONE about that!! This once again speaks volumes about the BOT’s and Erickson’s honesty and fair play!!!

  • 86. I Lion  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    From the movie the “fly,” Vicent Price, his last line. . .”Search for the truth is the most important work in the whole world.”

  • 87. An Alum.  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Peetz and Erickson should resign as well as any other Trustee who was in office at the time of the Sandusky Scandel. Giving the University’s money away is just adding to your legacy of disaterous leadership of PSU. Go away and let the vacum that is left, slow down the process, and let us move forward by rebuilding and looking for the truth.

  • 88. Patti Aiello Hunter  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Ms Peetz, I continually find myself questioning why you feel the need to speak for the entire board and by extension the University.

    The “culture” problem IS the BoT. You dismiss alumni, the public, the community, the actions of a few on behalf of many and never seem to give a straight answer to questions. Rodney Erickson, and if you are to be believed, the executive committee, made a decision that should not have been made The Freeh report should have been reviewed and decisions made based on trial outcomes.

    The BoT let (or could that be …LED) the media crucify Penn State. My question is why? There is no culture “problem”, so please stop placating the NCAA and the media by saying there is.

    I live in Illinois, and find there are many non PSU people here who have the SAME questions we alumni have.

    Ms Peetz, thinking this is an “isolated” alumni opinion is your error. Penn State admissions down? Look to the BoT and how this has been handled and give yourselves a hand..because you caused much of that result. Alumni contributions will be the next hard hit for PSU. Look to the BoT for the cause of that also.

    I am a proud PSU alumni. Unfortunately, I am ashamed of you as a PSU alumni. We don’t trust the BoT, we don’t want many of you to represent us, as you have proven you cannot represent us in good faith. You have repeatedly failed in your duty. Its time for you to MOVE ON.

    Please also note, we are NOT going away and there are THOUSANDS of us asking the same questions. We will continue to ask for answers.

  • 89. Tony G.  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Chairwoman Peetz, the PSU Board of Trustees, President Erickson and interim AD Dr. Joyner deserve all the BOOOOOOOOOOOOO’s we can muster at ALL TIMES. They are all cowardly lions and should resign, except for the three newly elected members.

  • 90. Brad  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    The extreme rush to move past all that was Penn State is creating the division. Why rush forward now when their are still trials and due process looming on the horizon. Why rush to judgement on Joe Paterno but absolutely no mention of the Second Mile, CYS, and the others who should have reported and were mandatory reporters? Penn State should be fighting to save a grand reputation rather than capitulate at every chance to stand and change the direction of the flow of this story

  • 91. Ron Martino, class of 1958  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    If Karen Peetz(Mellon Bank), John Surma(US Steel) and Ken Frazier(Merck) had commissioned a study concerning their companies and allowed that study to be made public without first doing a critical review, their board of directors would have fired them on the spot. You review to make sure the report is factually correct and doesn’t contain rumor and innuendo. Would Ms Peetz say she is not interested in the investigational part of a Mellon Bank study but only the recommendations? Of course she wouldn’t. She has great credentials but she has made some horrendous decisions.

  • 92. Michelle Sinclair  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    You don’t represent me as an alumna or Penn State in an effective way.
    I have one word to say and that is “RESIGN.”

  • 93. marti franklin duffy '66  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    the above comments are so well thought out and so true that i can only hope that some if not all of these individuals will become the BoT as soon as possible – i am beyond frustration with the current leadership – excepting the new board members – i agree we should all turn our backs on these leaders at every possible venue and continue to disagree with them every chance we have – they have failed us all – none more than the present student body who live under the disgraceful shadow they have created…

  • 94. Ken  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Unless you were on the BOT we can’t fully understand what information they were aware of or the pressure they were under. Under similar circumstances we may have made the same difficult decisions. But from someone on the outside looking in it looked like the BOT threw Penn State under the bus. I’m sure the BOT are all fine people who were doing what they thought was the best for the University but their decisions have caused much pain and left of feeling of no confidence. As well intentioned as they may be the only decision that will garner the respect of the Alumni is to step down for the love of the University.

  • 95. Laura R  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    I’m still waiting for actual answers to the questions posed.

    I agree with those before that ‘moving on’ right now feels awfully a lot like ‘covering up.’ We wants answers. We want the truth. We want due process. There’s nothing wrong with that.

    Lastly, shame on the Penn Stater. Another sell-out. :(

  • 96. Jennifer Bucher  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    I wish to add another alumni voice to the displeasure (too mild of a word) felt toward both the BOT and Pres. Erickson. The reception at the game Saturday it all. There is not a small group of disgruntled alumni, there is a vast majority of disgruntled alumni. Why the BOT accepted the poorly written Freeh report full of unfoundeed accusations is beyond me. As more and more media persons actually read the report they are too asking questions. How can the presidetn and Board of Trustees of a great university faiol to study and analyze something of that magnitude is unbelievable. The failure of the supposed leaders of the institution to ensure fairness and due process for itself and its employees is beyond belief. Please look at yourselves and think how you have handled this whole affair.

  • 97. enpstine  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    I agree and second that

  • 98. Jim K, Acctg '84  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    There are many alumni who would like to “move on”, but simply can’t–or won’t. We are disgusted by the BoT actions from the very beginning where they single-handedly turned a Sandusky/Second Mile scandal into the Penn State scandal by sacking Paterno.

    Slowly, the media is beginning to “come around” and understand that as more facts come out, it appears that PSU coaches and officials may not have covered up anything after all. However, our BoT continues to apologize without even having read the “comic book” Freeh Report fully.

    The BoT threw Paterno under the bus to protect their personal reputations. They did not read and discuss the validity of the Freeh Report to protect their reputations. They blindly accepted NCAA lies and sanctions to protect their reputations.

    Our school has an academic/athletic culture that is the envy of most of the schools that comprise the NCAA. Very few schools have had such combined success in these areas. This was due largely to Joe Paterno’s influence.

    Our Bot failed to do the “right thing”, but instead went for the easy way out. If there is anything being hidden at PSU about the Sandusky/Second Mile scandal, it appears to be at the Corbett/BoT level. Just follow the $$$$.

  • 99. Al Breininger, '64  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Everytime Mrs. Peetz or President Erickson open their mouths, my blood boils. They say nothing of substance to the matter, and only make matters worse and further divide. That is why I say “resign”. You currently serve no purpose for me.

  • 100. Kevin  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    To Ms. Peetz and president Erickson and the Board of Trustees members as of Nov 2011. You have failed. Utterly. You either cannot or will not stand up for Penn State. We want the truth, we want our questions answered, not ignored. You have taken an awful situation and made it far worse. Your abject lack of leadership (and lack of tact or even a hint of common sense) leads me to the conclusion you all need to leave for us to “move on.”

  • 101. Robert Kesilman  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    If there is a “culture” that needs to be re-examined, it is the “culture” of the Board of Trustees. This is a group that was apparently oblivious to the Sandusky issues, even though they were publicized in the media. They rushed to judgment on the Paterno/Spanier decision, apparently feeling pressure from the media. They rushed to accept the (obviously flawed) Freeh report. They accepted the NCAA decision, even though the NCAA violated their own rules in their rush to judgment. This incredible string of poor decisions would have meant dismissal in the private sector. Penn Staters are unfortunate that we will have to suffer through several years until the current members of the Board are voted out.

  • 102. Dean Delach  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Obviously Erickson and the BOT will ignore all the comments here. Actually, they will not even read them, just like they didn’t read the Freeh report. But I do hope the folks at the Alumni Association, including those involved with the Penn Stater, will read these comments and realize how thoroughly pissed the vast majority of alums are with the BOT and Erickson. The next issue of the Penn Stater should be devoted to expressing the views of alumni…….and representing those views in a way that is consistent with the views of the majority. You can start with interviews of the leaders of PS4RS.

  • 103. A Disgruntled Alumni  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    In a letter Peetz sent to alumni after the sandal broke, she said that she and the BoT accept responsibility for the failures that placed Penn State in this situation.
    So far, Peetz and the BoT have severely punished Joe Paterno and his family, Shultz, Curley, Spanier, the entire university, the alumni, the city and the state.
    So, Mrs Peetz, what have you done to admonish, censure or punish yourself and the rest of the board?

  • 104. Barbara Zelley '70  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    I can only second the comments above and add one more individual voice to what is clearly NOT a small disgruntled group of alumni. The Paterno family continues to act with dignity as they, at least, allow due process to take its course and set the example that should have come from our BoT. The crimes of one individual and the stupidity and lack of courage by the university leadership has made the past year a nightmare for all who love Penn State.

    Bob Boyer has it so right: “The actions of the BOT have caused more damage to Penn State than Sandusky’s sick actions.” And that’s just plain wrong.

  • 105. Christine M Junker  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Consider me to be among the “small, disgruntled faction” of Penn State alumni – seemingly well-represented here – who will not rest until every member of this BOTs has resigned or been replaced (with the exception of the 3 members most recently elected), along with President Erickson and Governor Corbett from office. Their irresponsible actions ruined the reputation of a good man, a great university and besmirched the degrees of thousands of alumni. I’m sick of having to defend Penn State’s “culture,” when there never was a culture problem to begin with. When we cheer for Penn State teams, it has NEVER been just about winning. Our pride has always stemmed from the academic integrity of the athletic programs of our university. To have this called into question is the height of absurdity! All anyone has to do is look at the years of academic success of our athletes in comparison to other NCAA schools to see that. I am livid that our own university supported and encouraged this falsehood by not challenging these assumptions in the FREEH report. I have a hard time believing that anyone with a Penn State degree and who has been alive and breathing in the past 60 years wouldn’t know this – and to whom the credit belongs.

  • 106. MJT  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    It is unfathomable to me that the BOT thinks that just a small portion of alumni are disgruntled. That is a huge miscalculation. This BOT, with the exception of the four recent alumni additions, have been rash, at best, and blatantly negligent in the decisions they have made since this grand jury began.

  • 107. A Concerned Alumus  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Rodney Erickson, in my eyes the Neville Chamberlain of Pennsylvania, the Pennsylvania State University Administration, and its Board of Trustees have heretofore chosen expedient (re-)actions to lessen their faultily perceived responsibility in the entire Sandusky matter at the expense of due process of law for all those involved. This behavior must cease. If the Administration or the Board of Trustees considered themselves in any way to be a representative of the true and best interests of the Pennsylvania State University, any action against the University taken by the NCAA should have awaited a full and unfettered resolution of all criminal and civil trials against the principals in the primary suit. Any less than this, as they have indeed allowed, has subjected the University and its Alumni to the results of a politically correct action perpetrated by the NCAA that is no different than the witch hunts which took place in Salem Village in 1692.

  • 108. PSU Parent  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    As a Pennsylvanian, I just wish to say…Shame on you, Board of Trustees. Your non-answers fool no one. Your incompetence astounds everyone.

  • 109. Ed Gambler  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    “Peetz noted that Tim Curley ’76, ’78g and Gary Schultz ’71, ’75g will have due process.” That is correct. They will receive due process. Unfortunately, Joe Paterno did not receive due process when he was fired, nor did he receive due process when he was stripped of the all-time victory record, nor did our university, its alumni, and its students receive due process when Erickson accepted the NCAA sanctions and the BoT spinelessly accepted Erickson’s decision.

    These are the issues that are “push(ing) us apart rather than push(ing) us together.” It is time that this Board resign en masse. They could not have handled this entire calamity any worse from the time it became public. Resign NOW and allow a group that will actually defend our university, its reputation, its employees, its alumni, and its students to take your place.

    Ed Gambler
    BS ’84, MEd ’91

  • 110. Scott Mitchell, 1982 Sec Ed/Math  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    I’m really bothered hearing about the ‘culture’ of Penn State football ad nausem. Penn State’s emphasis on the student portion of student-athlete was a model for the NCAA and it’s clear that jealous members of that board that had ignored academics while university presidents hated Penn State for it. By not standing up to this nonsense, the board and president have done a great disservice to Coach Paterno and his former and current players. Shame on you for crumbling under the pressure of the biased media, a political hack like Louis Freeh and the petty NCAA. Allowing an incompetent administrator like Vicky Triponey to receive accolades while bringing down the school she was rightly fired from is also on your watch. How can you allow a great man like Joe Paterno to be treated so shabbily while someone like Triponey is elevated is beyond me. I realize now that Joe Paterno had an even greater role in elevating our great university because it certainly wasn’t the Board of Trustees. As a class of 1982 graduate I fear for our university’s future under your watch.

  • 111. richard bartnik  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    I am fascinated by Ms Peetz analysis of an organization’s culture. Absolutely, there are reasons for analysis and improvement. But, a first step is understanding the existing culture. In my opinion, the Penn State culture has been based on academic excellence. It might be one of a handful of major universities where students celebrate graduation rates of athletes at a level similar to onfield/court/mat success. Yet, out Board of Trustees has allowed the President of the NCAA – on a national stage – to define Penn State as an institution that places athletics over academics. Silence on the part of our leaders – again on the national stage – only adds credence to the erroneous statements of NCAA leadership. Responding to erroneous statements is not confrontational or divisive when the facts being presented are wrong.
    Similarly, attempting to backtrack from conclusions of the Freeh report at this stage is laughable. Nearly everyone who follows college athletics accepts the Freeh report as definitive. Why? Again, the President of the NCAA ,in handing sanctions against Penn State, was allowed to define Penn State based on these conclusions. If,as,Ms Peetz now claims, the BOT has not accepted all the conclusions and is looking only at a few pages, how hard would it be to ask one of our highly paid consultants to prepare a press release that states the Board’s position which, based on Ms Peetz comments, differs from the basis the NCAA used to determine sanctions.
    I know that these are difficult times for Penn State and the Board of Trustees has a difficult path ahead. However, simply “moving on” is not the only answer. So far PSU will pay out or lose nearly $100 million in revenue. Looking forward, I can envision a path where this number climbs to over $250 million. That money could have been spent on tuition reductions, new courses or a multitude of other academic endeavors.
    The “I’m not moving on crowd” are not malcontents or anarchists. They support the University and are pained to see the good name of their university drug through the mud with no “push back” by our leaders.
    If Ms Peetz wants a true understanding of what alumni think, move away from an Alumni council and go out to meetings of alumni in Philadephia, Pittsburgh, Washington DC or any one of similar venues. I believe she will get a better understanding of how alumni really feel.

  • 112. Thomas M. Bradley '71, '74g  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    BOT actions over the last 51 weeks have been misguided and responsible for the crisis the university currently faces. I have spoken with hundreds of alumni all over the nation who like me, have no interest in “moving forward” until many questions are answered. The millions of dollars blown on inept public relations strategies demonstrate how fudiciary responsibilities have been shirked. With the exception of the newly-elected members, the entire BOT needs to resign immediately.

    Did anyone note the crowd reaction at halftime of Saturday’s game with Ohio State when President Erickson and AD Joyner were introduced? The booing was loud and long. It sure didn’t sound like “moving on” was the desire of Nittany Lion fans.

    I’m tired of the BOT “butt-covering.” Their ill-conceived strategies sionce last November, including the firing of Joe Paterno and unwillingness to challenge the NCAA, have been shameful.

  • 113. Ally  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    It is a shame that it has come to this, but Peetz and the board continue to ignore the alumni and their positions on these issues. It comes down to the fact that there was a failure of leadership, and it must examined. Their statements to the media are just completely ridiculous. They have no intentions of standing up for the University and might as well just stand out on the lawn handing out money to anyone that walks by. I mean the Freeh report has become a compete joke. Even people in the national media who were all over Penn State from the beginning have discredited it. I guess now that a member of the board’s business (Frazier)’s company bought out Freeh’s firm you won’t see that happening. If they think that we don’t know that they paid for that report to blame exactly who they wanted, they are crazy. Go ahead guys run the university into the ground. I’m sure you will find a way to profit from it in the long run. The alumni are ANGRY and we can’t stand what you are doing, so don’t act for a second like you have done anything for us in relation to this matter.

  • 114. Vickie Fleisher-Gann  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    I agree with everything the other 102 people before me have said but if I were in your shoes, I’d take the easy way out and admit to my mistake and not continue to be embarassed…Karen and Rodney…when are you going to get a backbone and stop being the puppets to Surma and Frazier?…The choice is yours…

  • 115. Wm Paul O'Hern  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    Tell Karen she needs to acknowledge a failure of fiduciary responsibility worthy of immediate removal of all the board of Trustees except for the newly elected Alumni members. The new “openness is a sham. The board is a “rubber” stamp to a PR group. They do not seem to appreciate how things are going to snowball down unless some backbone is shown.

    The subcommittee on Audit seemed to be clueless that the bond rating was going to be lowered.

    Until the Freeh report is addressed there is no moving forward!

  • 116. davidpsu  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    It is upsetting to me that the NCAA sanctions are actually harming the University’s ability to become a successful center for the care, study, and treatment of sexual abused children. We should be using this horrible historic event as a chance to do an enormous amount of good.

    But when the BOT ignorantly accepted the Freeh Report and the NCAA Sanctions, they harmed University’s resources that could have been channeled toward the goal of becoming a world class center for child abuse victims.

    The NCAA sanctions imposed are excessive and unreasonable. Why is it that the most historically severe NCAA sanctions have been imposed against a model athletic program and University with no factual evidence of wrongdoing?

    The sanctions not only miss the mark, but they inflict permanent damage to an entire generation of student-athletes and coaches who were innocent of any wrongdoing during their time on campus while placing an unwarranted blemish on an institution that, by the NCAA’s own acknowledgement, “Has never before had NCAA major violations.”

    There seems to be many inaccuracies in the BOT and President Erickson’s claims. In regards to accepting the NCAA penalties to avoid a multi-year death penalty, only a school that is currently on probation could potentially receive the death penalty. That is in the NCAA guidelines.

    I agree that there seems to be a massive cover-up going on here and the alumni will never trust this BOT.

  • 117. Ed Nunez  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    From the first time I heard Dr. Erickson speak on this issue I knew we were in trouble. He took the approach of appeasing the “haters” by not responding aggressively to the charges against Penn State. He must have thought that if we did nothing they would all go away. Kinda what Chamberlain thought about Germany. To date there is no evidence that Penn State did anything wrong yet you wouldn’t know it from Peetz and Erickson’s reaction and approach to everything. They need to go. I was one of the many who booed Erickson and Joyner on Saturday night and I will do so every opportunity I get until they apologize for what they have done to Penn State.

  • 118. yogafriend  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    Please listen to the Pennsylvania State University community you are supposed to represent and resign.

  • 119. Brian Scott  |  October 29, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    Karen Peetz rightfully acknowledged that the Board of Trustees needs to turnover and that resignations en masse would not be good for the organization. However, Peetz and the rest of the Board should immediately announce limited resignations (including some of the Governor’s apointees) and a plan to turn over the entire board within a reasonable period of time (maybe two years). Waiting for regular attrition is not a solution. If she wants any credibility with our alumni, she should implement this option soon.

  • 120. davidpsu  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Thank you to Jim K, Acctg ’84 for comment number 98! All of us alumni agree!!!

  • 121. Philip Mastil '97  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    The BOT is not questioning the Freeh report or confronting the NCAA sanction not because the are spineless, but because certain BOT members are the ones who told Freeh the direction in which the report was to go. Tom Corbett, John Surma, and Ken Frazier brought in Freeh to issue a report that pushed blame to Spanier, Schultz, Curley, and Paterno within the media. This was so people or the media did not begin to assign blame to the Second Mile (who donated signficantly to Corbett) and from the previous failures of PA state child protection agencies who mismanaged previous investigations of Sandusky. If it was realized these agencies mismanaged or delibrilately squashed investigations of Sandusky, then the victims would be sueing the State of PA and not Penn State, which Corbett would not want. This explains why the BOT is being so obstructive and just wants to “move on”. The Freeh report wasn’t a rush to judgement, it was a calculated manipulation of the media and the public.

  • 122. Adrienne Mitra  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    I am deeply saddened to see Karen Peetz referring to the “Penn State culture” with such negativity. The Penn State culture I know is ingrained in all of us…..No one should call themselves a Penn Stater if they actually believe that there is (or was) something “wrong” with our tradition of excellence in academics and athletics, our faith in the Paterno Way, and who we are (and have always been) as a University community.

  • 123. Glenn Kilburn  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    I know I’ll be criticized for making this political, but is Peetz, Erickson, and the board members working for Obama and the US Senate? I am having a hard time distinguishing between actions taken by our PSU administration and board and the Obama administration and Senate. Both seem to have been dodging, ignoring, lieing, blaming others, accepting a report without reviewing it, allowing an insurgent to destroy an entity without fighting back, using excuses that there is much more to consider and look into (oh, except the decision to fire Paterno) before taking a stand, and deciding to use other people’s money to pay off claimants without anyone’s approval but their own. It’s uncanny how the two groups are so alike. Shame on all of us if we continue to allow the actions/inactions of both groups to move forward. Am I the only one who sees the similarities?
    For the Glory.

  • 124. John Hitchner  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Karen, The Board of Trustees made a mistake when they decided they would not read the Freeh report before it went public. The Board also made a mistake in putting out a statement of acceptance of the Freeh report simply because the Press was demanding a comment. Reading what you have to say about all this it seems clear that you don’t think the Board made any mistakes. You are dead wrong. Do the right thing and admit it.

  • 125. DougPSU  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    The BOT must not move on until we have discovered and reported the truth.

  • 126. Tomasene  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    bot should submit there resignations NOW

  • 127. Duff Chambers  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Peetz and Erickson are entitled to their opinions as am I; and my opinion is the Board of Trustees has perfected the age old saying, “Ready, Fire, Aim”.

    By the way, I am embarresed by their behavior!

  • 128. Brian Scott  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Most alumni understand that the consent decree eliminated our opportunity to dispute the NCAA’s findings and penalties pending additional information (like the resolution of the Curley and Schultz trials). Most question why any action was required to occur by the University (as related to the NCAA) immediately after the release of the Freeh report. Had the NCAA unilaterally announced sanctions against Penn State (including the death penalty – which Immert and Ray disputed) prior to the completion of the legal process, Penn State would have had the opportunity to appeal those findings. This would have given Penn State the opportunity to dispute the finding of the Freeh report (if they wanted to do so) and wait until the legal process concluded.

    Karen Peetz does not seem to acknowledge that most Penn Stater’s disagree with Erickson and the Board’s decision to accept a consent decree from the NCAA – even after they explained their rationale for doing so. That alone is reason enough for the Alumni to require turnover at these key leadership positions.

  • 129. tstoner3  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    BOT completely failed the university with the way they agreed to and handled the Freeh report. Hardest decision ever Rodney? You and the board put yourself in that predicament by releasing a report in an attempt to cover up your own incompetence from the last 10 years. Peetz and the Prez need to go and PSU will never see another cent from me until they are gone and we get some leadership with a backbone in place.

  • 130. davidpsu  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Thank you to Philip Mastil ’97. It is worth repeating Philip’s comment number 121:

    121. Philip Mastil ’97 | October 29, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    The BOT is not questioning the Freeh report or confronting the NCAA sanction not because the are spineless, but because certain BOT members are the ones who told Freeh the direction in which the report was to go. Tom Corbett, John Surma, and Ken Frazier brought in Freeh to issue a report that pushed blame to Spanier, Schultz, Curley, and Paterno within the media. This was so people or the media did not begin to assign blame to the Second Mile (who donated signficantly to Corbett) and from the previous failures of PA state child protection agencies who mismanaged previous investigations of Sandusky. If it was realized these agencies mismanaged or delibrilately squashed investigations of Sandusky, then the victims would be sueing the State of PA and not Penn State, which Corbett would not want. This explains why the BOT is being so obstructive and just wants to “move on”. The Freeh report wasn’t a rush to judgement, it was a calculated manipulation of the media and the public.

  • 131. Nick Skias  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    You stated that we would have faced a catastrophe if we did not accept the sanctions. However, at a recent speech at ODU, which I attended, NCAA President Emmert unequivocally stated that the death penalty was not on the table, contrary to what Erickson stated. Someone is lying.

  • 132. John Smith  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Let’s chant:

    ALL WE ARE SAYING, IS GIVE PEETZ THE BOOT
    (Surma too, Surma too, Surma too…..)
    ALL WE ARE SAYING, IS GIVE PEETZ THE BOOT
    (Surma too, Surma too, Surma too….)
    ALL WE ARE SAYING, IS GIVE PEETZ THE BOOT

  • 133. Duff Chambers  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    How dare you confuse the party line with FACTS.!!!!

  • 134. Sharon D.  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Karen,
    I believe this is NOT the minority of alumnae that feel that the entire board of Trustees (with the exception of the four new 2012 alumni-elected Trustees) demonstrate and continue to demonstrate a failure of fiduciary responsibility that is worthy of immediate removal.
    It will run it’s due course – for whatever it takes for you to realize how people really feel about how things were and are being handled since the tragic events were found out.

  • 135. Karen Heilig Decker  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    PS4RS would be an excellent cover story for the next issue.

  • 136. Mike Tome, Ag '78  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Why on earth should we be concerned about a football culture where 91% of the football players graduate? Why are we concerned about a football culture where the athletes participate in THON, the Lift for Life and other important fund-raising activities that benefit programs other than sports? Why are we concerned about Joe Paterno’s “Grand Experiment” that brought in STUDENT athletes to compete at a high level in Division 1-A football.

    When I attended Penn State, I was encouraged to think critically, to check facts, to read reports and check on statements and conclusions to make sure they all added up before accepting the reports as factual. The PSU leadership, including the BoT, have done none of this. President Erickson sold out our great name by accepting as fact the factually flawed Freeh Report. The PSU leadership has made me ashamed of being proud of my great Alma Mater. It is time for the entire leadership team, with the exception of the newly elected Alumni BoT members to resign. Then we can move forward.

    I still believe the truth will come out and the real culprits in the Sandusky scandal will then be revealed. Believe….

    For the Glory….

  • 137. Michael Knaub  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Wow! Ninety-five comments and NONE supportive of Ms. Peetz and the BoT. Get the message yet Karen? As Maribeth Roman Schmidt- (comment #31)-points out, no one has asked the all important question, One year later, in hindsight, what would you have done differently? The problem is that Ms. Peetz doesn’t want to look back, only move on, hence why the question has never been asked OR why she will never answer it.
    If Ms. Peetz or any other BoT member ran their business the way they handled the Sandusky Scandal, they would be out of business, period. By failing to review the Freeh Fiction Report and accepting its findings, Ms. Peetz and the BoT gave the NCAA all the motive it needed to destroy Penn State and Joe Paterno all in one fell swoop. No one on the BoT (except the newly elected members) stood up to Fight Fight Fight for the Blue and White. They simply stood by while Rodney Erickson signed the consent decree without even challenging the findings. Who does this? Cowards or people hiding something, that’s who.
    Anthony Lubrano said it best – Joe Paterno had more integrity in his little finger than Mark Emmert has in his whole body. The same can be said of the BoT.

  • 138. Diane Mentrikoski Class of 79  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    The great tragedy is that the BOT allowed the media to control the narrative of this horrific story. If, when the initial details were presented which DID NOT implicate Joe Paterno, the board had released a statement which said, “Joe Paterno is a man of integrity who has served our university honorably for 61 years, and he followed the procedures in place at the time of the alleged criminal act by a former employee” and also expressed our deep regret and concern for the young victims, perhaps so many of these mis-steps (Freeh report, NCAA sanctions) could have been avoided. Instead you acted prematurely and recklessly. I cannot fathom how you thought any of your decisions would protect the University, which is your solemn duty. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish you had done better. I watched with great interest the dynamics of the Sept. board meeting, and Ms. Peetz, I firmly believe “your time is up.”

  • 139. Kurt Heister  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    It is hard to read these comments. The BOT continues to absolve itself of responsibility for what occurred before and after November of last year. I am the CFO of a large business. And the part of my business culture that I view as most important is not when people leave work. But a culture of holding people accountable. How sad our BOT and our current president has yet to be held acountable. The question of culture is offensive. A culture that promotes cowards as members of our Board is what i find disturbing. Disinterest in really pursuing the truth vs. accepting a whitewash is what I find acceptable.

  • 140. Pamela Ruff, BS, Biol, '79  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    Karen Peetz, I hope you and all BoT members serving in November of 2011 read all of the comments here. They were written not by a small disgruntled faction of alumni but by alumni who care about their alma mater. YOU are delusional if you cannot understand the damage you and the BoT of 2011 have caused. The only way Penn State can “move on” as seems to be your mantra is for you to RESIGN NOW! I am embarrassed that you are a Penn State alumna. Your management as chairman of the BoT has been nothing short of catastrophic. If you believe that continued opposition to the BoT is only a minority of the alumni, prove it by polling the alumni. What will it take for you to understand that your continued “leadership” not only will prevent Penn State from healing but only deepens the wounds and increases the bleeding? RESIGN NOW and walk away so that those of us who truly love our university can begin to move forward. “There is none so blind as those who will not see.” Give the alumni a voice now. Then open your ears to listen, your eyes to see, and your heart to feel the pain you and the BoT have caused. Your actions have divided us when we needed to be united. Your words have been meaningless when they needed to truthful. Your leadership has been evaluated over the past months and found to be cowardly. We, the alumni, are justifiably proud of Penn State for a multitude of reasons. WE ARE PENN STATE!! You and the BoT have proved you are not. RESIGN NOW and us bring our university back.

  • 141. Ferris Atty  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    If there was any “cover-up” at all it is my opinion that the BOT was involved,not Joe Paterno.Here are my reasons:1.no transparency at all as to why Paterno was fired instead of at least being placed on administrative leave.2. Large financial contributions to the Corbett campaign for gov. from the Second Mile when he was AG and obviously knew that Sandusky was under investigation. 2.Release of more than seven figures of financial aid to the Second Mile after Corbett was inaugurated despite the ongoing investigation. 3.The hiring of Louis Freeh who had an extremely checkered past.One only has to go to search engines to verify this.4. the blind acceptance of the Freeh report despite the fact that key people were not interviewed,no subpoena power, and no testimony under oath.Is it possible that Free gave the BOT the report that they requested???? 5.The extremely fast decision to accept the NCAA sanctions despite the fact that there was no legal investigation and that there on laws were never violated by the Penn State Athletic Department. 6. Last but not least:a lack of DUE PROCESS!!!!I have yet to hear an explanation from the BOT regarding any of my points and until, I do will place no trust in any of their statements.

  • 142. Bill Priatko  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    i am a University of Pittsburgh graduate and was a varsity football letterman at Pitt. Joe Paterno was a wonderful man and coach who exempliefied all that is good about the academic and athletic aspect of college football. In my 81 years of life, the most blatant example of a man being crucified was Coach Paterno. I say AMEN to all that has been stated in the totality of the comments that have been stated. It is the truth and the truth will set Joe Paterno and others free. Those who have crucified him will eventually pay the price for their cowardly actions. There is and will be no MOVE ON. The injustice is too great and all of us who believe in what Coach Paterno and all that he stood for and for a great University must and will continue on to fight this battle for what is right and to pursue the truth. The evil of what was done must be corrected. A statement that the media and others refuse to recognize is a statement made by Karen Peetz’s mother-in-law after Coach Paterno was fired and AFTER he died. She said, ” Joe Paterno should have been fired, he had too much power.” Karen Peetz didn’t have the character to say this, she used her mother-in-law to say it for her. What a blatant act of cowardice. That was and is the reason why Peetz, the BOT, Erickson,Corbett and others refuse to admit their inept and cowardly actions and decisions, their aim was to fire Coach Paterno. They can not be permitted to get away with it.

    Bill Priatko
    North Huntingdon, Pa.

  • 143. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    When will the townhall meetings begin as promised by ch Peter on January 20th

  • 144. Mary Ferguson  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    the BOT and Erickson is the only culture that needs changing at Penn State.

  • 145. Henry Zee '73  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    If you think that this is a response, Karen and Rodney have blind folded themselves and think that all alumni will just follow their action.
    Never have I seen such an incompetent president of a major univerity and such an assinine chair of the board of trustees making totally ridiculours arguements that only a small portion of the alumni have not moved on.

    I plead to Karen and Rodney to really take hold of themselves and discuss with the general alumni and get a pulse.

    You have taken the fabric out of the Penn State culture by 1. firing JoePa without due process, 2. Accept the Freeh report and 3. without discussing with the BOT on the NCAA punishment.

    You want us to move on?? How?? There is something really rotten in Happy Valley and as an alumni, I demand to investigate this sequence of events.

    I am not a rich person and I only donate minimally. I will not donate anymore unless Rodney resigns.

  • 146. ajb81  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Out of touch is the best way to describe this spin. It reminds one of our political system and the Boards of most every Fortune 500 company in the US. Rich, elderly white men make business decisions to line their pockets and appear self-righteous, acting as if they are looking out for those of us who don’t know any better. Along side them are a few white women trying their best to make it in corporate America, acting like they are somehow different, but are actually they are sadly part of the same act.

    Taking the easy road and blaming it on difficult times, and using hired PR spin doctors to guide your decisions….this is quite simply repulsive to those of us who graduated from Penn State and have children attending this great Institution. We need leaders that are willing to fight for something special, not ones who lay down and roll over when the going gets tough. Reading the words of the Alma Mater should make you cringe in shame. The reception Mr. Erickson received at the Football game this weekend was simply embarrassing. We can’t move forward with him at the helm and this BOT in place. History is not to be forgotten. Joe Paterno’s legacy is not Jerry Sandusky, and this Board needs to aggressively embrace that stance if it wishes to “heal” and move forward. You can not force proud alumni into a false premise that we must atone for our sins. This sin was not Penn State’s. It was Jerry Sandusky’s. If there are a few leaders who did not do their job out of either ignorance or fear or political ambition, then they too should be punished…not Penn State and its current student body, faculty and alumni. Please try representing those who elected to you, and if you were appointed by someone who did not do his job, then you should either step up to the plate or resign. Else, teh BOT will never gain the respect of those of us who are ashamed and angry at our current leadership. We are not ashamed of being associated with Penn State. But we are ashamed that Penn State, like the rest of country, seems devoid of leadership that is willing to do the right thing, rather than doing what they perceive will result in the least damage. Mark Emmert and the NCAA are not gods. Allowing them to play god out of fear that you may be put to death, sounds like something out of the 16th Century. In this country (and in our collegiate system), we have rules that govern our civilization. The right thing to do is to hold those who do not follow the rules accountable via the rules that govern the land. That is something one could be proud of.

  • 147. BOTMUSTGO  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    I find it simply amazing that the subject of Freeh Report is being spun to a discussion regarding culture changes. The fact of the matter is we STILL DO NOT HAVE A FIRM POSITION ON THE BOT to the acceptance or rejection of the Freeh report OTHER than his recommendations. They continue to side step the all important answer of do they accept his conclusions that a “COVER UP” occured at Penn State- WE HAVEN’T FORGOTTEN THIS WAS WHAT DROVE THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE!!!

    We’ve now heard the BOT and AD Joyner say repeatedlyADMIT “something happened here” – well WHAT?!?! Please let us know.

    Forget the culture discussion – we get this – and we have always been a state of improvement at Penn State. That’s also our legacy and seemed to work just fine prior to this BOT!

    WHEN WILL THEY BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE STUDENTS, ALUMNI, COMMUNITY ????? WE HAVE YET TO HEAR EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THAT IS SO STINKING AMAZiNG. Other than them telling us they’re amazing and much smarter than everyone so they will make he “hard” decisions.

  • 148. Bill Doncsecz  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    I can’t offer much that hasn’t been said already, only this comment,
    which was at the end of an email I sent to Miss Peetz and the entire BOT after reading the Penn Stater article:

    I know what Penn State means to me, and most of the other 550,000 alumni. What we wish is, is that it meant the same to the BOT. Your words are not deceiving us. We are watching your actions!

  • 149. Proud PSU Mom of 2  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    I am totally disgusted with Peetz and the rest of her BoT cronies! This is, has been and always should have been considered a SECOND MILE SCANDAL. I guess Karen you had to defend the other BoT members and Governor Corbutt and bring PSU down because of their financial connections to their Second Mile cash cow. We TRUE Penn Staters are not going away…you and your cronies need to go away, and it won’t be soon enough! We aren’t moving forward until you move out!

  • 150. Chris Zacko  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    I will keep this short. Karen Peetz and Rodney Erickson are failures and an embarrassment. This great University only continues to suffer further with them in place. Until President Erickson and the vast majority of the Board Of Trustees resigns — Penn STATE cannot heal and move forward. Myself and thousands of alumni/supporters have sworn to never move on until they are gone and replaced with competent leadership. We need leadership that will fight for the reputation of the University, and not leaders that look to put this in the past to protect their own self interests (and failures).

  • 151. Susan Rio Carson  |  October 29, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    You, Madam President, and your “culure” on the BoT is the problem. Penn State has no “culure” problem but our BoT has created more problems then anyone can imagine for our university.

    To not honor a man who made Penn State into a great university through not only his football coaching but his ability to put education in the forefront, is a disgrace. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

    As representatives of the university, you should be pushing DUE PROCESS and not caving into every Emerett, Freeh, and Corbutt.

    I will not move on until the truth is known.

    If you had any dignity and honor, you and all the trustees who started all of this last November should resign, Now.

  • 152. David Geiss. BS 78  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    The responses here don’t seem very divided…Honor Joe and fight the NCAA! Ms. Peetz, if you don’t want to lead get out of the way!

  • 153. wlevinson  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    I don’t know how much damage Hurricane Sandy is going to do to Penn State, and I hope it is insignificant, but I know how much damage Hurricane Peetz/Surma/Erickson has done.

  • 154. Glenn Kilburn  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    If Peetz, in her comments, wants to compare her and the board’s actions/inactions to a business enviornment, then let’s do so: Erickson is the company CEO, Peetz is Chairperson of the Board, there is a Board of Directors; but then there are stockholders who vote on who should be board members, as well as who should go, while the board’s last act should be to replace the CEO. I believe the PSU stockholders have spoken and have made it very clear what actions should be taken. If our vote is ignored, we have a corporate anarchy that needs to be overthrown!

  • 155. Penn State Proud!  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    The BOTs and our President are rank amateurs with regard to public relations. Our trusted administration did nothing to get out in front of this story and create a “Penn State Narrative” instead they hired an “independent” former FBI director and hoped the University would be painted in a fair light. The first rule in damage control: never ask a question you don’t have an answer for. So we paid 6.5 million dollars for obstensively two emails! If the NCAA wanted to investigate, they should have. Maybe by 2022, they would have come to the conclusion that Penn State was not culpable while a competent set of BOTs and administration could have been spinning the PR narrative. But this is asking too much of an administration who doesn’t even have a sitting crisis or risk management team! By the way, wasn’t it Miles Brand, the deceased former NCAA President, who reported that “Penn State is the poster child for doing it right in college sports”. Brand cited Penn State as a model institution for academic and athletic success. So how could a sitting Penn State President in any competent way sign an NCAA Consent Decree with language undermining our academic principles? Did he even read the darn thing? More proof that Erickson must go! Apparently, JoePa was not only the “face” of our proud University but also was its voice. Sadly we lost that voice in January of 2012.

  • 156. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    The culture that has to change is the culture of inattentiveness on the part of the BOT for 20 years, not the culture of academic and athletic excellence. The board is using the Paterno era as a scapegoat for their malfeasance. Stand up, be proud and defend the institution. Sack cloth and ashes are not appropriate.

  • 157. Nancy Tyson Koebel  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    While it’s important for Curley and Schultz to have due process, why is Ms. Peetz unconcerned about the due process given Joe Paterno. That is probably why they would rather turn any remembrance over to the university. At least they’re worried about looking hypocritical. I’m also concerned about the willingness of the board to accept the seriously flawed Freeh report and it’s conclusions regarding university involvement (rather than that of state and county agencies and the Second Mile itself) in any cover up of Sandusky’s crimes. I only hope there are concerns about the financial hit the university will take. Ms. Peetz and the other members of the executive committee (a self appointed, permanent group that doesn’t have to work under the rules they make for the rest of the board) need to learn proper stewardship and practice it. That means not allowing other executive members to use the board as a means of promoting personal agendas or benefiting personally from their ties to the university.

  • 158. bobbygene15108  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Ms Peetz and Mr Erickson

    STEP DOWN……RESIGN…..

    409 Forever JVP

  • 159. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    What poll have you taken Erickson? Didn’t getting booed at the game on Saturday read loud and clear? Turn up your hearing aide. WE WANT DUE PROCESS FOR FACULTY! What you have done to Joe Paterno’s legacy and the student-athletes/students of PSU is shameful. We know a shady deal when we see it, we are not happy with how you have chosen to represent us, and WE ARE PENN STATE. Lead or step down.

  • 160. I Can Count  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    156 against the Rod Squad, 0 for them. Sounds pretty unified to me

  • 161. Nancy Youtzy  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    I can’t believe you can give a speech like that with a straight face. You have tried to take away all of the goodness of Penn State, but really you are failing…you make your own rules & wonder why those of us are upset with you. You have NOT stood up for Penn state one iota and the only moving on should be you moving on away from Penn State. And the only moving on I’ll be doing is in the privacy of my own bathroom!

  • 162. Jen  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Ms. Peetz, Mr. Erickson, I believe your time is up….Please do everyone a favor and resign. You treatment of Joe Paterno, his family is absolutely shameful. I don’t know how you are able to sleep at night. Pleae know that it is NOT a handful of disgruntled alumni but a large contingent that will not give one dime to the University until you are gone and you make things right with Joe Paterno’s legacy.

  • 163. JC  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    How dare the BOT throw the Paterno family, who dedicated their lives to the betterment of PSU, under the bus without proof positive that he was involved in a cover up. Mr Surma smuggly fired Jopa and immediately made this an international story. One that painted PSU in a very bad light all over the nation and even the world. I hope Mr Surma feels good about the revenge he got. He must be very proud.
    Let’s hear the whole story.

  • 164. Walter Pellish  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    What utter nonsense and busnobabble Peetz spews. If anyone constantly examined “our culture” and sought to improve it, it was Joe Paterno. You don’t last 50 plus years in any environment unless you are striving to improve.

    The BOT and President Erickson are mere puppets and lack any semblance of leadership abilities. They should be defending a great university, not participating in its destruction. Move forward ? Like hell, fight back.

  • 165. Me  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Rush to judgement (BOT); destruction of more lives/reputations than necessary (current football players); poor role model for our current students; political (Corbett turned his head from the abuse); hypocrites (NCAA/college football coaches); revenge (toward Paterno–Mr. Surma?); no common sense; unbelievable (Freeh); and on and on. People who live in glass houses, shouldn’t throw stones!

  • 166. Kate - class of 2000  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Honor JoePA! SIXTY years of dedication needs more thought? Peetz and Erickson, instead of moving on, please move over. You’ve done enough destruction to Penn State.

  • 167. jpc158  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Am I one of the disgruntled alums?? Am I one of those adding to our football culture? Let me ask this question in another way: were the + 100,000 PSU fans at the OSU game demonstrating a bad culture??

  • 168. jpc158  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Am I one of the few digruntled alums? How many alums need to be upset before the number is signficant? Were the +100,000 fans cheering at last weeks game a sign of a bad culture?

  • 169. Greg Martin  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    To Ms Peetz and the rest of the 11/9/11 BoT members. I agree with the majority of the comments above, so I will provide my comments in a single word: RESIGN!

  • 170. Class of 1978  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    “Moving on” to the BOT interviewed in this article means the public should forget about the hasty, irrational decision-making of the November 2011 Board of Trustees.

  • 171. '64 Grad  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    Just wondering, not accussing in any way. But, did President Erickson or the BOT have anything additional to hide that caused the rush to accept the NCAA “good deal”. We will probably never know, but if one were “hiding something”, a strategy certainly could be to “move on, and put this behind us” and to push this agenda relentlessly.

  • 172. Frank R.  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    She said she would not get into the NCAA’s rationale—“that’s unproductive at best, divisive at worst”—and encouraged anyone who doesn’t understand the decision to read the reasons…”

    The alumni has yet to receive a straight answer in this matter. The NCAA has denied that it presented Erickson with an ultimatum. At what point is Ms. Peetz (and the rest of the BoT) going to stand up for the University?

  • 173. Scott class of 86  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Ms Peetz and Mr Erickson,
    It is certainly time to move, starting with the two of you and continuing with all other BoT members in place last November. You have consistently demonstated to the entire PSU community that you do NOT have the best interests of the university as a priority. Ms. Peetz I get it, you are only worried about your very well paying day job, supporting PSU could negatively impact that, again I get it, so step down immediately and let someone that wants what is best for PSU handle the duties. Mr. Erickson, I get it, you are only a well paid figurehead, ie, a puppet to the BoT and most likely the governor’s office, show some pride, not for PSU, it’s too late for that, but as a man, step down now.
    I will agree there is more to this story, yet you embraced the condemnation of Joe Paterno and the football program without the whole story. As if that wasn;t bad enough the collateral damage to anyone associated with PSU is massive. The alumni, employees and students are tainted indefinitely and it all due your total failure of your fiduciary responsibilites.
    Please move on and away from PSU.

  • 174. Jessi Lillo  |  October 29, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Other than the obvious drivel from Peetz, I find it a little disturbing that this article says several times that the Freeh Report and the Consent Decree have divided alumni. Perhaps there are alumni who believe the Freeh conclusions and who think the sanctions are warranted and that this Board and President acted properly, but I have yet to meet them. I see an alumni base that is as united and dedicated to their alma mater as they’ve ever been, but that now feels a complete disconnect from those in charge who have failed to act in the interests of the University.

    As for Peetz and her condescending remarks about Penn State’s “culture,” that term comes directly from the Freeh Report that she and her cohorts are now claiming they have not read or accepted. Evidently, they have also never read or accepted the reports detailing Penn State’s stellar athlete graduation rates and rankings among the world’s best research institutions.

    And once more time, Peetz demonstrates the utter hypocrisy with which this Board continues to act when she advocates due process for Curley and Shultz in the same week in which they have already agreed to start paying off Sandusky’s victims.

    Most of this Board is an embarrassment to me as an alum, and every one of them would be summarily fired if they performed so poorly at their real jobs.

  • 175. Howard C. Young (Class of 1977)  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    I think it bears repeating that the BOT didn’t just accept the Freeh report. It commissioned it. Why bother reading something when they knew in advance what it would say?

    Freeh was hired to justify the firing of Joe Paterno. Everything else was just window dressing. His case was so incredibly weak he was forced to dig into his vast bag of “inside the beltway” tricks.

    Let’s examine some of them:

    1) He leaked select e-mails in advance with the narrative ‘damaging to Paterno’ already attached, even though an objective reading of said e-mails could just as easily have exonerated Paterno.

    2) He published his report and one hour later gave a nationally televised press conference, knowing with absolute certainty that virtually no one in the media would then bother to actually read the body of the report, which bore no resemblance to the report’s summary.

    3) He omitted the meeting Mike McQueary had with Tim Curley and Gary Schultz from both the TImeline of Significant Events and the Key FIndings sections of the report. I can’t think of a single incident that qualifies more as a significant event or a key finding. I believe this was done deliberately.

    Freeh attempted to hang Paterno based on a single conversation, the nature of which remains a complete mystery to this day. Why? Because he declined Paterno’s offer to be interviewed and he refused to wait until the completion of the upcoming trial to interview Tim Curley.

    Freeh holds himself out as a former judge and a man of integrity, but no honorable man devoted to the rule of law would have drawn the conclusions he did. He deliberately took due process and threw it out the window. And based on the BOT’s consistent behavior throughout this entire saga, I am firmly convinced that that is exactly what he was hired to do.

    It is my belief that the board of trustees has breached its fiduciary responsibilities in their rush to move on and should be held accountable. And it has destroyed the reputation of a man who was this university’s most valuable human asset. At each step of the way, due process was summarily abandoned. I shudder to think what these people are hiding!

  • 176. I Lion  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    Scott, good post and to all the posts. . .

    This incompetent, cowardly president together with the BOT has done far more damage to the university than the actions of one monster. . .

  • 177. Harry Close  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    The Bot has done more damage to our University than Sandusky or any other happening. They never will but they all the original members should resign. Also, we are not a small group of disgruntled allumni, we are a group of infoirmed and dedicated alumni who will never give up the fight to right the wrongs that have been done to PSU by our own administration. Harry Close 61

  • 178. Richard Hunter BSChE'54  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    I surely agree with everything my younger Alumus have stated above. I came to PSU (PSC) the same year my friend Joe P started as an assistant coach under Rip. Joe was a true Christan man with very high moral standards. Joe was honest and very faithful to God, His Family and Penn State. When this gutless cowardless BOT didn’t do any soul searching and didn’t have the guts or courage to face Joe and discuss anything with him it says alot about our uselss BOT. The cowards called him and told him over the phone he was fired. Disgracefull!!
    You did nothing to protect his or PSU’s reputation. Then you didn’t stand up for us against the lazy NACC. Sandusky was no longer a part of the football program, but you didn’t make any effort to fight the sanctions. As a result you insaulted our Alma Mater.
    I’m 80 years old but not senile. I am very proud of PSU and display my schools name and colors and will continue to do it, but you don’t know the greif I get from so many people. They blame the University for all of Sanduskys affairs and ask how Joe could let this continue. They all feel that Joe and PSU deserved the sanctions.
    This rotten publicity is the fault of the BOT and the Booed Pres. What a useless bunch. Please resign and let us get some members on the board that really love their Alma Mater more then themselves.

  • 179. PennStater15  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    Hey Karen….If there is such a football culture, why oh why do you and your BoT members attend the games?? Please RESIGN and don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

  • 180. Lisa Harmon  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Ms. Peetz and President Erickson,
    It is unbelievable to me how stupid you think we, the ‘disgruntled’ are…. I am still waiting for the truth to come out. Leopards do not change their spots. Anyone who has known JoePa knew he didn’t care what anyone thought of him (and sometimes this caused the media grave consternation as JoePa would brush off their comments and talk about the real story–the academic success of his players). JoePa would be the last person to cover up anything for the sake of football. Don’t you get it??? He cared more about being authentic and kids than he ever cared about the win and loss column. Yes, he happened to win, but that wasn’t what made him a winner!! And like it or not, that was the culture with JoePa. Why do you think so many people respected him?? If it was about the winning, then his supporters would have left in droves during the seasons that Penn State football had many, many losses.
    Your willingness to make a dead person the scapegoat for all your monumental leadership errors makes me ill. Grow a backbone! Demand the truth! Stand up for those who have served Penn State longer than you have been born! I have given up that you two will step aside–you are way too arrogant, you think we’re disgruntled misfits, you think that we don’t know the real story. YOU have made terrible mistakes (and have supported Mr. Surma, etc.) and now you want it to all go away and blame it on the culture! PLEASE…. The culture that needs to go is your idiotic, amateur, lame, and insulting leadership. Actually, I don’t call either one of you leaders, for in that case, you’d be in front. Instead I call you very poor followers; you don’t know enough to ask to get out of the game. You continue to do more harm than good. When the history books are written about horrid leadership, both of you will be the poster children for what NOT to do.

    If you had any dignity and honor, you and all the trustees who started all of this last November should resign, Now.

  • 181. John  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Shameful is the only word. Rodney and Karen, and the rest of the BoT resign. Retain the 4 new BoT Members. Let’s get a fresh start with folks that love PSU and don’t relish in tearing it down.

  • 182. Susanna Futhey  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    I still do not know how it was determined there was a “football culture” at Penn State. How, exactly, did it manifest itself? And if there truly was one, why did the BoT wait so long to address it? I’m afraid, you wouldn’t know “culture” (other that those tacky pearls you wear) if it bit you on the…elbow.

  • 183. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    we can’t “move on” until we get trustees that we can trust. The BoT could have minimized the fallout last November if someone would have grown a set and said thet this is a Jerry Sandusky scandal…..not a PSU scandal. It seems to have worked for Syracuse.

  • 184. Kristen Klebanski Collingwood  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    The BOT culture that allowed the University President (and others) to get away with “covering up child sex abuse” (if that’s what you think happened);
    The BOT culture that has yet to stand and defend Penn State;
    The BOT culture that continues to violate the Sunshine Act by holding private, decision-making meetings and rubber-stamp public meetings;
    The BOT culture that thinks 3-minutes of “public expressions” is the epitome of “openness” (wait … is my time up?);
    The BOT culture that thinks a new website design and top level domain name named “openness” is what openness is all about;
    The BOT culture that believes “reform” means more subcommittees;
    The BOT culture that believes having all 6 Business & Industry Trustees sitting on the Executive Committee is really in the best interest of Penn State;
    The BOT culture that violates their own Standing Orders without consequence;
    The BOT culture that is so completely out of step with the Penn State stakeholders that they don’t even realize they need to clean house, let alone know how

  • 185. Vickie Fleisher-Gann  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Ladies and Gentlemen of the BOT…WE are going to be like the Energizer bunny…resign, resign, resign, resign, resign, resign…u haven’t gotten the message yet?…resign, resign, resign, resign, resign, resign,…

  • 186. Linda Berkland  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    Ms. Peetz……are you getting the message? We don’t believe you! We know the Freeh report is a joke! You all botched this entire mess! It’s always difficult to admit your failings but that’s where “moving on” needs to start. If you can’t do it, you’ll stay dug in and so will we. We know the truth. The only reason the truth isn’t being told is because the main stream media screwed up too and they’re cowards, just like you, and unable to admit their failings. But the alumni are not cowards and we aren’t going away. You know how everybody keeps talking about how Penn State is a world class institution??? Well, guess, what…..we all have degrees too and we’re not stupid! Fortunately, we’re not relying on highly paid public relations spin doctors to do our thinking for us! Try to think for yourself and do the right thing, for God’s sake! Tell the truth and let the healing begin!

  • 187. Kenneth Kastle '64  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    Karen:

    All of the comments to this point us to the following:

    Karen Peetz and every member of the BOT sans the new alumni-elected trustees and Pres.Erckson, have overwhelmingly lost the any respect and credibility of PSU alumni, students, and friends of the University. At this point, there is simply nothing you can say or do that we will accept. At this point, your actions and in-actions as a body are the major source of continuing harm to the University now that Sandusky’s fate has been sealed.

    Bottom line: Resign together with the rest of the BOT (except the newly elected alumni trustees.) Your value to PSU has been compromised and tainted. We are ready, willing, and able to replace you and, when that has happened, we will unquestionably be able to move forward.

  • 188. Kirk Collingwood  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    I echo the many coments from MANY of PSU alums that feel that the BOT has failed us miserably. If would perform in my duties at my job as these so called “trustees” have I would have been fired. We will move on when Peetz resigns.

  • 189. Michelle Leonard  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Ms. Peetz- I find it absolutely incomprehensible that there is any group on this entire planet that is as clueless as you and the rest of the Corbett puppets you “serve” with on the PSU Board of Trustees (with the exception with those newley elected by the alumni-Lubrano, McCombie, and Taliafero). I would really love to know how on Earth you and the others have missed the fact that this board has completely failed the University. Is the opinion polls showing the lack of faith in the trustees; the booing of Erickson and Joyner; the rallies for resignations; the thousands upon thousands of emails/comments/letters sent by alumni; the lack of votes for alumni incumbents; the requests for donations being denied until the BOT resigns; etc.; etc. not enough of a clue for even your pea-sized brain with overinflated ego to figure out?? The utter incomptence of supposed professionals is mind-boggling. You and the rest of your BOT co-horts (on 11/9/11) have done everything in your power to try and destroy Penn State but the alumni (and other PSU supporters such as myself) will not stop fighting to stop you from further damaging the University. If for even one second you had put the best interests of the University before yourselves, Penn State would have come through the Sandusky mess in much the same way as Syracuse, et al, have come through their own issues. Instead, you bozos decided to embrace the idea of Penn State as public enemy number one and didn’t even bother to respond with the facts that Second Mile, Child Youth Services, the Centre County DA, etc., had far more ability and responsibility to stop a pedophile. Try reading all of these comments and using your head for something besides a way to put on your pearls.

  • 190. clarie99  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    It will be interesting to read the next issue of the Penn Stater’s letters to the editor. Based on what has been printed in the last issues it would seem that most alumni are pleased. However, we all know otherwise. The results of the alumni survey that are continually ignored and the comment here are representative of a large portion of Penn State stakeholders. It’s time for the Penn Stater to represent those of us who are tired of Ms. Peetz’s double-speak and, well…lies. It’s time for someone–perhaps our alumni association?–to stand up to this board and help to truly heal Penn State. As long as these liars and self-serving egos are in place, there will continue to be open wounds at our dear alma mater. Step down. Now. Please–For the Glory!

  • 191. Christopher Garrison '87  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    I continue to be concerned by the board of trustees unwillingness to defend the reputation of Penn State and its culture. Ms. Peetz says that successful organizations continually examine their culture. While this may be true, I would also assert that successful organizations do not allow unsubstantiated allegations and innuendo that impune the organization’s reputation to go unanswered. Many of the negative things being reported about Penn State are a direct result of the inaccuracies and inflammatory speculation contained in the Freeh report. By refusing to address these problems with the report this board is essentially sending the message that the Freeh report is an accurate and definitive description of the university’s role in the Sandusky mess.

    Alumni are repeatedly being told to “move on”. Many of us are not willing to move on until all of the facts regarding Penn State and the Sandusky scandal are presented in an fair and accurate manner. We expect leaders that are willing to stand up and defend Penn State’s culture and reputation. If the current board leadership is unable or unwilling to do that perhaps they should “move on” by resigning.

  • 192. Mike, Class of 1969  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Ms. Peetz andDr. Erickson:
    I am amazed that you think that your use of the “Kennett Square Tactic” (keep them in the dark and feed them manure) in dealing with the alumni will succeed. Your plan to stymie the will of PSU alums and think we will go away happy is the height of conceit.
    Dr. Erickson’s comment on “divergence of opinion” is laughable. Rod, you must have missed the alumni survey. You both have mishandled every phase of the issue from initial discovery to this meeting. Please commit the political version of seppuku and resign NOW.

  • 193. Missy  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    I also echo the many comments made on this forum regarding the negligence and poor actions the BoT have taken regarding the Freeh report, Joe Paterno, and the culture of PSU. They have no sense of leadership skills and should step down. Yes, I am an alumni. Perhaps I am biased but the people I talk to who are not alumni feel the same way. A lot of my non-PSU alumni friends feel the BoT and Corbett botched this one from the beginning. All need to take responsibility for their unreasonable actions and resign except for the newly elected alumni.

  • 194. Ed  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    It is time to stop the PR doublespeak, for the BOT to ‘move on’ and allow competent representatives to lead our University. WE ARE tired of the ineptitude.

  • 195. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    I am so very glad that Ms. Peetz feels like we should wait until the ‘due process’ is complete for Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz before deciding what to do next. But that begs the question; Why wasn’t the same consideration given to accepting NCAA sanctions and to the firing Joe Paterno? Certainly due process would clear up so many of the questions alumni and now sportscasters have asked: How many inaccuracies are there in the Freeh report and why weren’t the principles involved give their day in court before being sentenced by the BOT and the NCAA? Decisions have been made by the BOT that have cost the state and the university money that could have and should have been tabled until such a time as all facts were revealed.
    For the glory,
    K. Reed “69″

  • 196. Sharon Ketchen  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    The BoT’s promises of governance accountability and transparency are disingenious. Chairwoman Peetz and other notable members of the BoT arrogantly see themselves as the martyrs saving Penn State from a culture of misguided, hero-worshiping, football fanatics. This alone proves they are unworthy of representing Penn State. They are so clueless that they don’t even recognize that their use of the phrase “Move On” is in itself divisive. It means “get over it.” They expect us to “get over” the way they fired Joe Paterno without due process. They expect us to “get over” the way they allowed the media to drag Penn State’s reputation through the mud without protest. They expect us to “get over” the fact that they refuse to dispute the highly flawed Freeh report. They expect us to “get over” President Erickson’s and the executive committee’s baffling decision to accept unprecedented sanctions via a binding consent decree without an actual NCAA investigation. They expect us to “get over” the Middle States Commission issuing Penn State an accreditation warning based on concerns about “governance.” They expect us to “get over” the recent downgrade in Penn State’s credit rating. The expect us to “get over” the fact that THEIR FAILED LEADERSHIP has tarnished our University’s reputation and put its academic and financial future in serious peril.

    The vocal demonstration of discontent as Erickson stood mid-field at Saturday’s game could be heard far beyond the stadium. But don’t expect the BoT to have an epiphany that THEY are the ones with the culture problem With the notable exception of Lubrano and a few others, this BoT cares little about your feelings or concern..after all, it is time for all of us to “Move On.” But, they still count on you to give $$$$ for the Glory of Old State. Well, Chairwoman Peetz, you were the one who used the business analogy and, if I’m investing in a company, I’m going to look at the performance of that company under the current the CEO and Board. Sorry, but your stock is looking like a loser right now. I’ll invest when you are gone.

  • 197. Michael J Pattick  |  October 29, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    The actions of the board are the problem,not Sanduski or anyone else,if the board handled this problem better.We would not be facing the issues we are facing.They must resign then we will be able to move on .

  • 198. Nancy Cunningham  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    I am a 59 yr.old proud PennState Alumni and find it somewhat humorous that of late, I and those who believe as I do are now referred to as anarchists. If that means that I am disgusted and infuriated over everything that you .the board of 11/11 and President Erickson have thrust upon our dear alma mater , and that I am willing to stand up and oppose you every step of the way until you are voted out…I’m happy to add anarchist to my personality profile. It’s obvious that dignity and honor should be deleted from yours. There is only one response to a question noted above that I agree with…any effort to honor Coach Paterno should be university driven and not Board driven.You are not worthy of having your names attached to recognizing a man who had more class in his white socks than the whole lot of you put together.

  • 199. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    agree totally with naturewoman and gershonpsu. The only honorable course for the BOT in office on November, 2011 is to resign and let the university move forward with honor and pride.
    psu ’67

  • 200. Jim Smith BS '78  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    I won’t repeat the many excellent points made previously. I will just say the following. It would serve PSU well if the BoT of 11/9/11 would follow Joe’s example of always doing the right thing, by resigning immediately. Allow someone with a backbone to take your place and stand up for the University.

  • 201. Nancy Youtzy  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    I hate to be redundant, but in the end, the only thing you & rest of the bot of 11/9/11 is resign now & maybe save some part of your derrier!

  • 202. Jessica Deakins  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    I am appalled, as all true Penn Staters are, with blanket and sometimes cavalier claims issued by Peetz and Erikson in regard to what the “majority” of alumni feel or believe regarding Joe Paterno, the decisions of the BOTand NCAA, and the “culture” of our university. A member of the real “majority” of this institution, I am sickened by the demolition of all that Paterno did and stood for; I am appalled by the rash, unwise,unfair and politically motivated acts of the BOT and the NCAA; and I defend vehemently the culture of Penn State, which has been maligned and sensationalized by the media and organizations driven by a variety of agendas. Erikson’s need for more time to honor Paterno or even to consider such a gesture is so unbelievably hypocritical in light of the dismantling of his statue at the crack of dawn, on a quite summer Sunday under cover of tarps. Our nation’s judicial system has at its core the right of due process. How is it then that our school’s governing body, the NCAA, and the legal system have not granted this fundamental right (legal system’s failure in not processing a case put before the attorney general or investigating those most culpable for the heinous acts of Sandusky: Sandusky’s family, the Second Mile, psychologists, investigating officers, etc.). We, as Penn Staters, particularly those of us who still reside in the Keystone State, also must cry afoul regarding the behavior, comments, and past of Governor Corbett, who has been decidedly and deliberately incognito over the past several months. We must pressure politicans to secure an investigation of the handling of Sandusky’s case years ago; we must examine the governor’s involvement in the firing of Paterno and his collusion with those under him to control the media, BOT, and legal offices associated with the case. Corbett’s “spin” on the scandal, I firmly believe, is intended to misdirect attention—–throw Paterno to the wolves so that Corbett himself goes uninvestigated for his own failures to investigate/take action.

  • 203. Kathy Kuchka Seelhorst  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Before we can really move on, we have to address and correct the failures and missteps of the past year. It was a mess, painful and frustrating. No one was strong. No one stood up and said, “that’s not what happened” “due process must be allowed to proceed before we make decisions” “Joe Paterno did what was right” etc. The Board did not protect Penn State. Panicked reactions and decisions ensued. A horrible situation, acerbated by the Board’s actions. We need stronger leadership who love and are proud of our school and who will protect her.
    Kathy Kuchka Seelhorst ’78

  • 204. Susanna Futhey  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    WOW! It is heartwarming to read so many wonderful, concise and truthful statements written by thoughtful, articulate and intelligent people. See how that’s done, Ms. Peetz? Never mind, you are not qualified to do this, are you? Shame on you, Erickson and BoT(-3). I’m shocked any of you have the nerve to show your smug faces.

  • 205. Richard Pohanish  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Karen Peetz,

    Shame on you and Rodney Erikson, your names will live in infamy! You are both short-sighted and arrogant beyond belief. You “blew it” from the start. This is not Tylenol you are dealing with…so put the case book away. Solve the prolems and save us the verbiage. Better yet, you should resign and let the competent take over.

  • 206. wlevinson  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    BOT definition of an anarchist: a person of character who will not put his or her name behind a dishonorable action that lacks character, ethics, and integrity.

    I saw the photograph of the BOT on 11/9. Any person of character should have gotten up and walked out on the spot to avoid being photographed with Garban and Surma, and thereby associating his/her name with the Board’s actions. Actually, any person of character could have blocked consensus on Surma’s proposed action to avoid any decision whatsoever–sort of like the Polish Commonwealth’s Liberum Veto. (The veto was not a problem when used responsibly, and 11/9 was an example of when the equivalent should have been applied).

    Karen Peetz’s problem is that her colleagues set her (and Erickson) up to fail. Peetz and Erickson were doubtlessly fine people before they got involved in this but, once you are in a position of having to defend and justify a gross defect in judgment, you can only compromise your credibility. That is why Peetz has now told two proven falsehoods in less than a year, versus zero for Coach Paterno during his entire lifetime. (Tell us again, Karen, WHOSE record has been marred?)

    Peetz told us (1) that the Freeh Group was not hired to assign fault for Sandusky (http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/board-of-trustees-table-decision-on-child-care-center-public-comment-hour-tense-1133563/) and (2) the Trustees were not going to make statements as to anyone’s guilt or innocence after she, and apparently Frazier, did so. To paraphrase Ms. Peetz’s own words,

    “I think our reaction is that the clarity that’s come out of the report would show that the previously excellent service that Karen Peetz gave to the university is now marred by no less than two dishonest statements to the University’s stakeholders.”

    JOE PATERNO = LION KING
    KAREN PEETZ = LYIN’ QUEEN

    (and Rodney Erickson = Cowardly Lion, but he will never get any courage unlike the original. Nor will the collective BOT, unlike the Scarecrow, ever get a brain.)

  • 207. Al Breininger '64  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    I learned early on in the business world that if you need to “sell a position”, go hire a consultant, have them investigate and present what ends up to be “your position”. Mrs. Peetz and other business folks on the BOT certainly understand that tactic. And, they employed it well. JoePa was a thorn in the BOT’s side for various reasons, and it was a situation of “not letting a good crisis, go to waste”. Bingo, enter Mr. Freeh.

    Due diligence – hardly. Mr. Freeh gave the old BOT exactly what they wanted. Thus, no criticism or critique of the report by any of the old BOT members.

    Bravo for the three or four current members of the board who are challenging it.

  • 208. John Kaniuk  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    I ran a medium sized company for 20 years and it was recognized for many years as one of the best places to work. It has been recognized in a book and articles on its employees culture. Therefore, you are correct in saying continually improving culture is important. Also, I can understand why one would fire high level employees because of all the bad publicity. Part of their job is too ensure that this does not happen. All of this did not admit PSU was doing a coverup of the Sandusky incident to protect the football program. However, the acceptance of the Freeh report and the NCAA sactions did. I have read the Freeh report and much else that has been written and I can find no conclusive proof that this is what happened. You are correct that the trial may reveal what happened because we do not know all the facts currently. Therefore, I am very critical that the President and the Trustees accepted the Freeh report and NCAA sanctions before all the facts are in. I understand that the NCAA was basically holding a gun to PSU’s heads. However, I would and would expect the PSU leaders to do the right thing and not accept them and blame before all the facts were in. Every alumni I know, which is considerable, feel the same way even if the sactions were more severe. What was done by the NCAA was for PR reasons and the PSU leaders did not fight it. How it was handled reflects negatively on PSU and us as alumni. This is not acceptable to us without real evidence. In fact, I believe mistakes were made but not to protect the football program. There was no reason to protect the football program. The question I have is why did the PSU leaders go along with everything without any resistance? Now you expect the alumni to accept it and move on. We cannot because PSU taught most of us to do the right thing.

  • 209. Errin Miller, '96  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    The biggest failures of the last year were because of the BoT. The vast majority of alumni are disgruntled with YOU. Please resign. You are the culture problem.

  • 210. Mike  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    When I opened my Penn Stater to see Karen dressed in her black with pearls I thought, you can’t put lipstick on a pig. I promptly put the magazine in the garbage without reading it.

  • 211. William Raco Class of '73  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Mike, since you didn’t read the article, you are still eminently qualified to comment on it.
    After all, Peetz and the BoT admitted they didn’t read the Freeh report, yet they still put the stamp of approval to it.
    Thank you, Ms Peetz!
    Oh, and I do like to be redundant…. please resign.

  • 212. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    I am a member of the Golden Loin Society. The way that the BOT has caved into the NCAA and not demand due process has greatly upset me. Why should I keep on sponsoring organizations who may use part of my pledge money to pay penalties that I think are wrong?

  • 213. Rob  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    The leadership failure by President Erickson and the BOT should be a case study for MBA and MPA students everywhere. They literally could not have handled this situation any worse. Releasing the Freeh report to the public without even reading it first was an unfathomable and egregious breach of fiduciary. Sadly that’s just one of thousands of unbelievably bad calls made since November 2011.

    I would trade the current lot of trustees for a group randomly selected from the alumni pool… in a heartbeat.

  • 214. Lisa Greenwald  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Disgruntled Alumni #214, unless another disgruntled Alumni beat me to it! I agree with all said here! Keep calm, and fight on…

  • 215. Steve '69 in VA  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    I’ve made several comments here and in other forums denouncing the governor, our prez & Board of Traitors, the NCAAsses, the ESPiN doctors and others. I sent this article and comments to a friend and he sent back, “the sad part is that she (Peetz) will never read them” … this is probably true so I ask … no I beg the editors and the staff of OUR alumni magazine make sure that she, the prez and the Board of Traitors hear our complaints LOUD and CLEAR. It fact I suggest that some of the comments make it into the next issue along with a story (I’d like to see them all printed but then the magazine would be 6″ thick, ha) … please, please editors HEAR your alumni!
    WE ARE …

  • 216. Ron Consalvo  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    I guess I am one of the few disgruntled alumni who refuses to move on. The BOT destroyed the reputation of Joe and my university. The Freeh Stooges report has no credibility. I will not rest until every member of the 11/11 board is gone

  • 217. demlion  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    I certainly hope Ms. Peetz and Mr. Erickson read each and every one of these comments. THIS is the pulse of the community. This is what we think. I have spoken to well over a thousand PennStaters in the last month and told them I am working to get the BoT to resign. NOT ONE of these alums even asked me why I would want them to resign. They already know.

    Mr. Erickson was lustily booed at the FB game last Saturday–that is our answer to the command to “move on.” People with a record of failure like yours have no business giving others advice. When a bungler tells me to move on, I stand very still and watch closely. When that same bungler calls me and anarchist I laugh long and loud.

    You made the mistakes here–we didn’t. We ought to be giving you advice, so here it is in two words: Get Out.

  • 218. Ronald J. Riberich  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    There is not much else that I can add to this issue, that has not already been mentioned here. The BOT still does not comprehend the situation with Penn State, and the Alumni anger. How anyone can still insist that we “must move on” from what has happened without due process and truly finding out what happened, is mindless. I do not see how any member of the BOT, with the exception of 4 members can hold a responsible position in their private companies with their attitude on this. Either a cover up is in place, or incompetence is apparent. We are not moving on from anything until due process is carried out. We live in a democracy, the United States, with laws and a right to justice. The PSU BOT somehow misplaced this concept. We need and want leadership, but not what Ms Peetz, the BOT, and Mr Erickson are demonstrating.

  • 219. Stephanie Dowdell  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    By now it is evident that there are many alumni, friends and family who do not plan to move on. This tragedy in close to marking it’s one-year anniversary. The Freeh Report, leading to the NCAA sanctions is not the tip of the iceberg. The credit rating has been downgraded and there is the ongoing investigation by the Department of Education. Mrs. Peetz, you have said publicly that the credit downgrade isn’t “that big of a deal.” In and of itself, it may not be, however, put together with everything else that has happened, it is a “super”-big deal. We urge you to consider the voices of these passionate Penn-State supporters who are angry and want answers.

  • 220. Frank M.  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    First things first! We need to financially settle with the victims and provide for psychological support . Simultaneously, the Board needs to resign and a new outside President selected by the new Board.
    Alumni, faculty, and students continue to suffer with our terrible image nationwide. Until the leadership is replaced, the public at large in the state as well as the general population throughout the nation will not begin to trust us and our image and growth will suffer. Applications are falling and donations are also in decline. If the Board will not resign, then the Alumni must take the lead and get the Pa Legislature involved to force the issue. We must stop the finger pointing and get the current leadership replaced as soon as we can and only then can we begin to recover. I am confident that donations to our great University will begin to climb once the new leadership is in place and with patience we can climb back to greatness.

  • 221. Janine Guinter  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    There have been so many good comments, and arguments generated by a wonderful group of people. My only addition is that we need to make sure of a few things as our back up plan. We make sure no one from the BOT gets re-elected!!! and we get our legislators to do away with the governor appointed trustees. Please make this a priority. We do have this power and after all….” We are Penn State”. From one of the “booers” on Saturday. Don’t think Erickson will try that again.

  • 222. bobbygene15108  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Dear Ms Peetz and Mr. Erickson and the rest of the Penn State Bot sans the 3 new, Wow ya’ll sure have the Alumni kind of P’d at ya huh, I think its a little unfair they ganging up like this, that’s why I decided to chime in on Yinz, you see I’m NOT Penn State Alumni, heck I didn’t even go to College, I’m just a 77 Year old Native Pennsylvanian….And I so upset at you people doing o’l JoePa that way… how you can sleep at night is beyond me…. I read about someone wanting to MOVE ON…. I think ya’ll SHOULD do just that.. and KEEP ON MOVING ON, like adios, don’t let the door hit cha…adios… PLEASE.

  • 223. Doug  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    If the BOT, and Ms. Peetz and Mr. Erickson in particular, ran their respective companies with the same level of ineptitude that they have overseen at Penn State over the past 11 months, they would have been ousted a long time ago.

    The unfathomable disregard for due process and then irreparable damage brought upon their approval of a document that they 1) paid over $6 million for and 2) admit they never even bothered to conduct a formal review upon before agreeing to its content is evidence enough these people are either clueless or completely incompetent. Either way, they need to go.

  • 224. Jeff B '77 ENGR  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    Ms. Peetz, The manner in which you and the board have handled the Sandusky scandal is a classic case of failed leadership. The BOT’s management during this time will be a case study of failed crisis management. True leaders know the culture of a company or organization starts at the top. We will “Move On ” when you and the other leaders on the BOT “Move Out”. Do Not lecture us on the need of changing the culture when you continue to demonstrate such poor leadership.

  • 225. Patrick 82'  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    As a member of an extended family of Penn State Graduates and with two children currently attending and one applying, I’m completely sickened by the cowardice and inactions of our BOT. I agree with all the previous posts regarding removal of all board members including President Rod Erickson. As I sat there during Rod Erickson’s town hall meeting in Pittsburgh and listened to the way he responded to questions….. I leaned over to my wife and said by the time he’s done he will have made victims out of everyone associated with PSU. His position was so polarized it was clear he didn’t possess the ability to see the perspective of all PSU stakeholders, otherwise he wouldn’t have received the reception he got at the PSU/OSU game this past weekend.

    My wife and I met at PSU our Freshman year in 1982 and we’ve adopted and put into practice many of Joe Paterno’s philosophies on life. And for someone like Karen Peetz to have the gaul to say we need to check our culture…I say “yes” you are probably right on one account and that’s when we were all sleeping at the wheel while complete and utterly spineless people were stacking their curriculum vitae by becoming members of the PSU BOT. However, Karen Peetz, I will not move forward because you are now challenging the many of the threads we’ve woven into the fabric in which we lead our personal lives, take charge of our ambitions, and the threads we’ve passed on to our next of kin.

    If it wasn’t for Joepa addressing the BOT in February 1983 about leveraging the recent spotlight placed on PSU because of sports, our academic standing would clearly not be where it is today. Joepa instilled in everyone that academics leads to success in life and yes there may be a few fortunate ones that find success in sports, but it’s typically short-lived.

    Joepa dedicated his life and has done more in one man’s lifetime for a University than anyone could ever have conceived could be done……for this we are truly grateful and we only wish we could have given this message to him personnally! However, I know my wife and I both have shed a few tears this year at PSU games because of such a grave injustice to a man that was always trying to do it the right way.

    So I’m not sure where anyone on the BOT or the University President can honestly reflect and say “we’re doing it the right way.” The only thing you’ve done for us is to tear our University apart, victimize all associated with the University, and make us question whether we can restore our University to the heights it was prior to your poor decision making since last November!

    So I implore you for the sake of the University and all it’s constituencies, a vote of no confidence is clearly been placed on the marquee, please prepare a succession plan for all current BOT members to be removed within the year except of course for the BOT members who have been recently voted in as true representatives of University Constituencies.

    For the Glory!

  • 226. Mark Lundvall  |  October 29, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Once again, I read the comments from Erickson and Peetz and just shake my head in disgust. If the BOT is only focused on the section of the Freeh Report on governance, then why did they commission the remainder of the report? The BOT continues to say they will not comment on the innocence or guilt of any individual, but they hired Freeh to say it for them. At a minimum, this board has shown its incompetence since March 2011. They claim they removed Spanier and Paterno for their failure of leadership, yet give themselves a complete pass on their own actions or inactions since March 2011. They refuse to hold themselves accountable, so the alumni are the only ones able to do so.
    I understand the need to focus on the present and the future for the sake of the students. But, that in no way, should that come at the expense of seeking out the truth. The BOT and Erickson want everyone to move on and stop asking questions. The only way we can move on is when we know what happened, not Freeh’s conclusion based on incomplete and inaccurate information.

    I have supported PSU financially for the past 20 years. However, I can no longer do this while the Trustees (from March 2011) and Erickson are still in their positions at PSU. I will find other ways to support students and student athletes. The decision making by the BOT and Erickson in the past 11 months has demonstrated that they are incapable of acting in the best interests of PSU.

  • 227. shannon coen pertchik  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Sandusky ruined his life and more importantly, the lives of the boys involved. The Board ruined the reputation of Joe Paterno, the reputation of Penn State, and the future of our beloved University. As an attorney, I have never seen an organization in time of inquest, roll over, give up, and assist in their own demise quite the way this board did. Ever heard of due process? Ever heard of defending yourself? Ever heard of laying the blame where it belongs? In your eagerness to dismiss Joe, you threw the baby away with the bath water.

    It is not your response to the sanctions that bothers me as much as your initial rash response in scapegoating Joe and commisioning the Freeh report which had the effect of causing the sanctions, burying the University, and will eventually aid the prosecution. The board should have been in defense mode to privately determine, what, if any, part was played.

    Unfortunately, this bell can not be unrung.

  • 228. John A. Johnson  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    I get the horrible feeling that the BoT, the administration, and the Faculty Senate all want to “move on” by refusing to question to accuracy of the Freeh Report and fairness of the NCAA sanctions because they are afraid that this will hurt our public image (which will translate into loss of dollars). I can understand the fear that fighting the Freeh Report and NCAA sanctions will make it look like we care more about football than about abused boys. We can’t ignore how our actions affect public image. But the irony to me is that this concern about public image is exactly what the Freeh Report criticized the University for by not pursuing the truth about the Sandusky incident back in 2001. We cannot move on constructively by sweeping truth under the rug. Due process for everybody!

  • 229. P. Conti  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    The leadership this BOT has provided throughout the Sandusky scandal is disgraceful. It’s hard to find anything important back to last November that they have done well, but the mismanagement and loss of control of the Freeh report process was grossly incompetent, or perhaps something worse. Letting Louis Freeh release his unsupported opinions in that incomplete, premature hatchet job has led to permanent damage to the University’s reputation, unprecedented sanctions and now up sized civil settlements, all before a fraction of the relevant parties were even interviewed or facts discovered. I can’t find a single intelligent person who has actually read the report that doesn’t come to the same conclusion. Mind boggling. Someone needs to be held accountable. The BOT and especially the Special Investigative Committee should be ashamed of themselves.

  • 230. Scott Nick Class of 1995  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Ms. Peetz, I have little to add that the 200+ alums before me have not already expressed. There is but one contribution that you can make to our great University, and that is to take your own advice and move on. Effective immediately, please.

  • 231. Jason  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    Ms Peetz, you ma’am, ARE A DISGRACE to Penn State! You should never again utter the words WE ARE… You should go home, take that diploma off whatever wall it’s hanging on and put it away forever. It’s a shame that whenever I see your photo or hear/read your name I get sick to my stomach. I LOVE my family with all my heart and soul, that being my immediate family and my Penn State family. And I say loud with pride I don’t give a damn about you nor your puppet Erickson! I however give out the biggest love to the rest of my Penn State Family! WE ARE (you aren’t Ms Peetz)!!!

  • 232. Anonymous  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Am I one of the few digruntled alums? How many alums need to be upset before the number is signficant? There has been a big leadership failure and the BOT need move out before we can move on.

  • 233. Patti Aiello Hunter  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    PennStater editors…please pay attention to these posts. The last PennStater was so “partyline” and biased that I was infuriated reading it and had to throw it away. You are not doing a good job of representation of the alumni and students.

  • 234. Mike Neary  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    You have said there is a small minority of disgruntled alumni that disapprove of the actions of the BoT and President Erickson and will not move forward. How do you reconcile that statement with the hugely negative response to President Erickson at the OSU game? And by the way those were just the folks in the stadium, there are a lot more!

  • 235. michaelm  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Thank you Penn Stater for giving alumni the opportunity to respond to Ms. Peetz. Without a forum like this Ms. Peetz only grants 10 people 3 minutes for ‘free expression’. It is quite obvious that Ms. Peetz & the 11/9/11 Board have destroyed any credibility & trust with the alumni. I am sorry Ms. Peetz but your time is up.

  • 236. Still angry  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    As bad as the BOT’s continuing failure is the gutless silence of the Alumni Association — and now, through this edition of the Penn Stater — the group’s boot-licking endorsement of Peetz & Co. Embarrassing.

  • 237. Caroline Dixon '90  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    wow, 233 comments and still not one to represent how alumni are divided on these issues….Simply, the (11/09/11) BOT must SUBTRACT itself from the University as you are no longer a necessary part of the positive Penn State equation. I agree with the above comment that PS4RS would make a great cover story for the next issue…

  • 238. Renee Meany  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    No matter what I say here to you, to Erickson and the rest of the BOT, you will chose not to listen to the very people who put you in your position. As a parent of a Senior here at PSU, I feel you have not represented our University in an acceptable manner during this entire situation. I can not and will not move on until you do what is right for this University, the students, alumni and the parents who pay the very high tuition bill for this worthless degree. You have made hasty decisions, paid too much money for a report that means nothing and ruined a reputation and killed a man who gave his life to this school. WE ARE….. NOT MOVING ON UNTIL YOU RIGHT YOUR WRONGS!

  • 239. Lefty Hill  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    The BoT stinks. Erickson stinks.

  • 240. Joan Lech  |  October 29, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Am I one of the few digruntled alums? How many alums need to be upset before it’s enough. I am dissappointed to say the least how the BOT and president Erickson has shamed this University by their lack of leadership. Move On … you need to move on and let someone who can lead take over. What are you hiding? Oh the truth. I see.

  • 241. Dan Shaffer  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    Karen,
    You and Erickson are ‘unproductive” and “devisive” and have been from the start of this mess you created. And Rodney, alumni are not devided on the treatment of Joe Paterno. You know that’s a god damned lie. Resign you cowards.

  • 242. 409Forever  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    I really have to wonder how Karen Peetz and Rodney Erickson can stay in their positions knowing how much damage they have done to this great university. They want us to “move on”. Well after months of trying to defend PSU, listening to Ohio State fans ask if the “S” zone stands for Sandusky, watching the 82 team get honored and not hearing the name of the head coach mentioned once, trying to explain to my kids why the statue is no longer there, they win. I will move on. I love our current players, but I will not renew my 4 season tickets next year. I can not stomach the thought of my money going to Emmert and his NCAA stooges. I am sure 10% or 15% of that $60 million will actually help victims of abuse, but how much will be wasted on the administration. The NCAA doesn’t even know that the 1998 case was investigated by law enforcement, what do they possibly know about running this type of enterprise. My wife and I met at PSU and all we have every talked about was all 3 of our kids going there. Unless PSU gets new leadership that stops apologizing for a culture of Success with Honor that except for the crimes of 1 deranged person has been something that PSU should be proud of, PSU is the only school I will not pay for my kids to attend.

  • 243. Tom Wilk  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    If you do not stand up for what is right, and you are in a position to do so, you are a coward. BOT, find the truth. Protect the innocent. Do the right thing or resign and let others that have the stomach and the guts run the BoT and the University. Injustice never forgets!

  • 244. Devin Anthony Malone  |  October 29, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Dear Ms. Peetz,

    I sat as a student representative on the BOT ’85-87. I remember watching in horror as concerns about tuition hikes were swept aside and various “money making” facilities projects were given the green light. The only member you even tried to give a statement/position in support of holding the line on tuition hikes was Rich Trumka… the union guy. I learned back then that the majority of sitting members of the BOT do not hold the best interests of the general student body in serious regard… instead concerning themselves only with projecting the vision of Dr. Eric Walker to turn the Main Campus into a graduate/research facility absent of any bothersome undergraduate students (odd for a land grant institution). I see today nothing has changed. It is clear you allegiance is with research and funding dollars, not with those of us who have had our hearts ripped from our bodies. We the proud and passionate alumni beg you to stand-up to uncheck aggression. Demand the truth, stand up for a man who gave more to this university after the age of 70 then you will in 70 years. From my point of view this is simple… either Penn State is everything or it is nothing. Drop you thinly veiled attempt to cater to $$ and do your goddamn job. Represent those of us who cannot represent ourselves. A path otherwise traveled is that of a coward.

  • 245. Matt Brush  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:05 am

    Karen Peetz – you have no credibility and have lost your ability to “lead” Penn State. No corporation that you’ve worked for would tolerate the lack of credibility you have at Penn State.
    If all you can come up with is trying to “improve” the organization after all if this is simply frightening (see my comment about leading above). You have allowed the Penn State reputation to be severely damaged.
    President Erickson – to say applications are down 10-35% and not attribute that to what you and the BOT have done is down right foolish…the garbage you stated as potential reasons make ZERO sense (okay…I may buy your logic if we saw a slow decline over several years, but not less than one). Oh, but the quality of applicants hasn’t changed? And how do you support that statement? Sorry, it’s still a pig (lipstick never works).
    I don’t know why I waste my time reading your garbage. It’s embarrassing.
    Can you please read the alumni survey results and you will realize we are not a few disgruntled alumni…it’s the majority of us! Did you hear all of the boos Saturday?
    Please, please move on, resign!

  • 246. oust the Nov 11 board  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:40 am

    my question to the Novemeber 2011 board members still active: Why do you deserve to keep your positions?

    Any 32 people including children could not have done a worse job. Our board is an absolute embarrassment to Penn Staters everywhere.

    I too am very dissapointed in the alumni association and the Penn Stater magazine.

    What will it take to get these evil incompetant fools out!?

  • 247. humanity  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:49 am

    A message to the executive board: resign now.

    Madam, you and your ilk are the scum of the earth.

  • 248. Phil Mastil  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:58 am

    Karen Peetz works as an executive at BNY Mellon, where John Surma was on the Board of Directors until April 2012 and as she was member of the BNY executive committee, she reported to the Board that contained John Surma on the company’s performance. As of Jan 2012, Ms. Peetz is on the board of directors of Suncoke Energy, a company that produces a key ingredient in the steel making process. One of Suncoke’s largest customers is U.S. Steel, where John Surma is the chairman and CEO. Mr. Surma has a significant amount of influence on Ms. Peetz in the business world and she is now just acting as a surrogate for Mr. Surma in her role as PSU BOT chairwoman. It’s not a coincidence she was nominated for that position and it is known of the Surma family’s severe dislike for Joe Paterno stemming from something related to Surma’s nephew on the football team in the mid 2000s, where he was a wide receiver and his position coach was none other than Mike McQueary.

  • 249. MautiforPresident  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:01 am

    246 comments and not a single 1 that supports the BoT and their move on agenda. Why does the alumni association continue to go along and not challenge our so called leadership? Shouldn’t the alumni association be a reflection of its members? I never even met Jerry Sandusky, if PSU reviewed the details of the coverup and what was expected of me during my freshman orientation, I must have missed it. By accepting the Freeh report, which has no basis in fact, you have made everyone from Penn State guilty by association.

  • 250. Randy Yetter  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:02 am

    It is very simple. You do not admit to guilt unless you are guilty. The BOT is guilty. They do not want to be guilty. So they put it on Joe. Because they could. Zero integrity …. No moral compass …. And for some reason the bad guys persuaded the good guys to stick to the story. That leads me to ask the question….. How bad is it? How can good people cave to bad people? ….. And destroy a university at the same time?

  • 251. Mick (Class '87)  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:05 am

    The fact that Peetz and Erickson think they are even remotely doing right by Penn State is absolutely frightening!

    Rodney admitting enrollments are down 10-35% tells you all you need to know. In a real job, this band of stooges would have been fired in a New York minute!!

  • 252. MautiforPresident  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:28 am

    So the current count is 251 against the Bot and 0 in favor. I can hardly wait for my next issue of the Penn Stater, maybe you can get Tom Corbett on the cover and do a hard hitting piece on him and his dogs. Stand up and use your platform for some good demanding that Peetz, Erickson and Surma are fired.

  • 253. Tom McLaughlin  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:28 am

    It’s time to go Ms. Peetz, you along with the Fraud in the president’s office, the traitor in the AD’s office, and every other member who was sitting on the Board of Trustees last November. You are a lingering joke that is not funny, and every day you remain is another day of disgrace for our University. You are the problem. and as for Fraudney Erickson, the Alumni Association did a survey – there is hardly any dissenting opinion there. You and the board have failed in your duties to protect and uphold the reputation of Penn State. Instead, you act like Vichy France, and you allow Erickson and the NCAA to play Germany. It is time for all of you to be gone.

  • 254. ashaw21  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:29 am

    I’m sure they will be able to find (or manufacture) a few letters from the bootlickers that enjoy sucking up to them to print in the Penn Stater next month.

  • 255. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:32 am

    They are talking about culture, so they are setting a new culture where they basically let others dictate how Penn State is run, whether curricular or extra curricular? Its time for the BOT to move on and have a new BOT in place that promotes values and fights tooth and nail to bring out the truth. There is no excuse on how the BOT handled this situation….its been pathetic to say the least.. When did inaction become a virtue?

  • 256. Peggy PSU71  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:19 am

    The day the board members who created this debacle resign, we, Penn staters, will move on. Not one minute before.

  • 257. Jenn Lench  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:53 am

    This is a disgrace. If the University has a negative “culture,” perhaps it is due to lack of leadership from the Board of Trustees (except the newest members). Stand up and defend The Pennsylvania State University, OR, better yet, RESIGN and let other, more qualified individuals step up to the plate.

  • 258. Larry Gordon  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:54 am

    Oooohhhh, a “Vision Council”!!! The only vision I wish to see is the door closing as the last old member of the BOT walks out the door after submitting their respective resignations. PSU fans, alumni, students and followers are tired of being treated like a door mat.

    There will be no “moving on” until you all move on yourselves. Furthermore, I predict that you are scared out of your Talbot’s Board of Trustees wear that you and your buddies on the Board will be found culpable during the upcoming trials. And let’s not forget that the Feds and several independent investigations are still on-going.

    This is going to end all right. It will end with you all getting exactly what you deserve.

    Get away from us, get away from PSU, and get away from the microphone. Nearly everything that comes out of your mouth(s) are lies. Just ask Rodney “Most Difficult Decision” Erickson. Nothing but a liar….

  • 259. Wayne Stellefson ('76 and '77)  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:01 am

    President Ericksen’s due process came at the Ohio State Game when introduced at halftime. Was there a divergence of opinion? I think NOT! We are surrounded at the BoT and Executive levels of our University by the smugness of arrogant individuals only surpassed by their desire for personal power. The charade of protecting our great University is becoming nauseating. Just travel the country and listen to how people scoff at us now saying “if your own people don’t defend you, why should we send our kids there”. A sad “state” of affairs until we oust these self righteous politicians.

  • 260. Chuck Dix (parent of current student)  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:03 am

    Complete inability to appropriately defend and represent the university. Either they truly believe the university has a “culture” problem which is a direct contradiction to graduation rates, academic performance etc. or they are simply incapable of appropriately representing the university. Whichever is the issue represents failure of leadership and should result in the sacking of that failed leadership, Peetz, Erickson et al.

  • 261. George Taylor (72, 76, 82)  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:26 am

    A “culture” certainly includes leadership and when the base has no respect for the leadership, the culture is going to suffer. My love for Penn State comes from the opportunities I have been given as a three-time degree earner. My pride in Penn State has come from Joe Paterno. No president or trustee has ever made me feel proud – and it remains the same today. In fact, the current leadership of the university is an embarrassment to every Penn State alumni. It’s time for the current university leadership to MOVE ON.

  • 262. Jason Birnbaum  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:47 am

    From the very beginning, the BOT and the Administration have displayed a text book example of how not to handle a crime/crisis. Both the BOT and the Administration seem more concerned with protecting themselves than finding truth and serving the University community.

  • 263. Ed Shimp (84)  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:48 am

    Move along. Nothing to see here. No tradition, no pride, no leadership. No need to consult the alumni, the students, the faculty, or the townies. Move along.

  • 264. James Rohrbach, '79 Environmental Engineering  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:51 am

    262-0….does not look like much divisiveness going on here….the vast majority is disgruntled it seems

  • 265. John Semmer  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:06 am

    The Alumni Council is an elected body of representatives, it is not the alumni at large. Ms. Peetz in particular promised us a forum for alumni with the BOT. This does not fulfill that promise. Mr. Erickson pledged transparency, again, he has failed that pledge.

    The actions of the University and the BOT have only two possible explanations… either they don’t have the courage to stand up to the mob preception of PSU (in which case they should resign), or they know more than is public about who was to blame and who knew what and they are covering for someone (in which case they should resign).

    We will not move on until they come clean or step down.

    jfs, PSU ’88

  • 266. Matt Rzucidlo  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:07 am

    Shameful. Let me see if I have this correct.
    1. Dr. Erickson’s ” Most difficult decision” was discussed with K Peetz and others. Is it safe to say that they supported it, but does not want to talk about it now?
    2. Enrollment being down does not seem to be a concern.
    3. K. Peetz is not discussing the Freeh report, but her comment that the BOT will not honor JVP tells the logical observer that she believes it. Why can she not state that?
    4. All companies should evaluate their culture, most do not throw their past under the bus as corrupt, and denigrate without facts just to improve it.

    This isn’t about JVP, it is about allowing the BOT, media and NCAA to characterize our university as having ” an awful culture” as Mark Emmert said last week in Chicago. Silence by our leaders is construed to be agreement. Articles like this reinforce it. You build a culture by values, not by action plans and popularity polls.If the culture I grew up in was so influenced by ” the underbelly of football”, please explain and don’t hide behind a report that you won’t discuss.

    And you wonder why it feels as if people like Surma, Peetz, Frasier and Erickson are hiding something.

    Move on. Next thing you’ll be telling me is ‘Thon hasn’t helped anyone. It is part of our culture of self promotion.

    Heaven help you.

  • 267. Jeff  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Due Process? Penn State never took the time to give Joe due process!! Where was our University leadership standing up for our University??

  • 268. The BOT must RESIGN NOW  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:10 am

    WHEN will Erickson, Peetz, and the rest of the Board of Trustees finally do the right thing and RESIGN?

  • 269. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:11 am

    I know the Board of Trustees would love all of the alumni to just blindly follow them down the road to destruction of Penn State’s reputation. If the Board had just acted approprately (DUE PROCESS) at the beginning instead of bowing down to ESPN and the NCAA, the process of healing would have begun months ago with the Board and alumni acting in unison. What the Board of Trustees didn’t count on was that this isn’t a small group of fringe activist alumni. We aren’t blind hero-worshipping football fans (I haven’t been to a game in over five years). We are Penn State and we don’t like our beloved University kicked around the way the current administration has allowed (and even assisted). We are NOT going away quietly until we feel that the University has properly assessed the situation and acted accordingly. Ms. Peetz makes it clear we are not going away any time soon because she still refuses to act like a responsible Trustee. WE ARE PENN STATE and WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.

    Steve Wood, ’95

  • 270. Disgusted  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:33 am

    No sense in repeating what so many others have already said. But I will add that anyone with an IQ in the double digits should be offended by the complete disregard by the “leaders” (and I use that term loosely) of this great institution.

    Ms Peetz, Dr Erickson, and the rest of the drones – please leave and let someone responsible who wants to find the truth come in and clean up an already ugly situation that you all have made even uglier. Each and everyone of you have failed miserably.

  • 271. Chuck Kreutzberger  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Chuck (PhD 1993)

    PennStater, you need to take heed of the outcry from alumni and the fact that we aren’t buying what Peetz and Ericson are selling! We would appreciate a hardline article where the BOT is called out for their mishandling of the entire Sandusky/Second Mile issue and the rippling effect is has had on our beloved University.

    Culture defines a people and there is good and bad within any culture. A reflective look at the impact a culture may have on an organization or people as a means to improve is a good thing. The BOT talks like this is the solution – they spin it to say that we, a football crazed culture, lost our priorities. In reality they want to scapegoat “football culture” to account for their own mismanagement of the situation and as an attempt to move past the situation. After all, the mass public heard from the media it was a PSU scandal so it all fits. Paterno and the current football program are thrown under the bus to try to correct for their shortcomings. It all seems very well orchestrated – crisis and publicity management 101.

    The BOC is trying to build up what they left others knock over. On the way there is collateral damage. The reality is that they mismanaged the mess and could very well be covering their own backsides and the corporate connections and 6 figure salaries. Ask yourself, in corporate America do you think management would have survived such a fiasco? They all need to resign.

  • 272. Matthew Kessler ('95, Pol. Sc.)  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:42 am

    The lack of fiduciary responsibility displayed by this board is astonishing. A investigation of this board, including Tom Corbett, must be conducted as soon as possible. Not only has this board completely and utterly failed this University, their actions suggest criminal activity. Karen should resign now. In fact, Karen should surrender her diploma now. It’s very troubling that our university awarded a diploma to someone with such a deficiency in judgement making.

  • 273. Ron Martino, class of 1958  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Rodney Erickson will be speaking at the National Press Club tomorrow, October 31st. I attempted to get Dr. Erickson to agree to meet with Washington, DC alumni while he was in the area. I was turned down by his office and the PSU press relations people. I attempted to get PSU alumni president Roger Williams to intervene and I was not successful with that effort. The final message was that Erickson would be too busy answering questions from the press and he would not have time for the alumni.

  • 274. recvplus  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Does Erickson not think before speaking? Regarding doing something to honor Joe Paterno, to say nearly a year after the knee jerk, media driven, factless based, personal vendatta laden firing ” “I personally think to do something right now will push us apart rather than push us together” truly shows how clueless he and those he takes orders from really are. Doing the right thing would provide healing, but they will never, until ousted, admit they erred in their actions, so they continue to do nothing. The legacy of Peetz, Erickson, Surma, Corbutt, etc will be one of complete and absolute failure to lead. They blamed one individual for that but in fact it was them.

  • 275. Chrissy Ert  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Would Ms. Peetz please explain how Louis Freeh missed that Victim 2 was identified, and stated himself that nothing happened in the shower that night. After 3.5 million emails and documents were reviewed, I this would be pertinent information, but somehow Freeh missed it. As an alumnus, I want my 6.5 million back.

  • 276. S Hughes  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:47 am

    Mz. Peetz, I think it was quite obvious that the boo’s directed at the university president and athletic director from the crowd in Beaver Stadium on Saturday reflects the overwhelming displeasure with the way the BoT and university leadership has handled the situation this past year. I’m flabbergasted that you and the other 11/9/11 BoT members still continue to cling to your positions. Why? Do you honestly feel that you have done and continue to do what is best for Penn State? Apparently, alumni, community, and students feel the answer to that question is no. It’s past time to do the honorable thing, and just “move on” yourselves and allow those who have the university’s best interests at heart the opportunity to lead PSU in the right direction.

  • 277. Scott  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:48 am

    I think the booing of Dr. Erickson and AD Joyner is a pretty good indicator that many of us are not going to “move on” until Karen Peetz and the rest of the BOT truly do take responsibility for their egregiously bad decisions. Other than Steve Garban resigning (token?), there have been no visible signs of taking responsibility. The ridiculous statements made by several of the BOT members about life not being fair, the need to wait for due process, etc. are truly insulting. WE will move on when the truth is revealed and adequately addressed, and the BOT truly takes responsibility for their many failures during this tradgedy.

  • 278. J Rowles '84  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:50 am

    What ever happened to “the buck stops here”? Not only does the entire 11/11 board need to resign, but the structure of the board needs to be changed.

  • 279. Bob Mooney  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:51 am

    Ms. Peetz, You are a businesswoman – and an accomplished one, from what I gather. I would presume that the mark of a good businessman/woman is to make decisions based upon the best information that is available at the time. Another mark of a good businessman/woman is to revisit those decisions and be willing to change the course of those decsions when new information becomes available.

    You have done neither of those things. You and the other members of the board have leaped to judgment of the Penn State coach and administrators who spoke with Mike McQueary in 2001 about the Lasch Building shower incident. These men claimed that McQueary did not tell them he saw a child being molested in that shower. Their word is just as valid as is McQueary’s until a jury decides between the two. What gives you and the remainder of the board the right to judge these men and the so-called culture of our school before their trial.

    Your decisions will have cost this university well over $100 million dollars that the university may well have been not responsible for. Similar behavior by a board chairman and a CEO for any Fortune 500 firm would result in the termination of those officers. So it should be with yourself and Dr. Erickson.

  • 280. JC  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Don’t like to throw politics in this mix but let’s face it, this is all about politics. Those you live in PA need to seriously think about voting for Kane for Attorney General. Freed may be a perfectly good man and candidate but I fear he will be a puppet of Corbett. Lord knows he already has enough of those as he continues to try to defend his incompetence.

  • 281. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:07 am

    Your decisions, as well as the rest of the BOTS, have been an ongoing series of bad ideas. Yours will be a case study of what not to do when faced with a tragedy.
    The damage done to this University from your actions and non-actions is unacceptable and should culminate in your resignation as soon as possible.

    Brian Brown ’85

  • 282. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:10 am

    Our culture is fine its YOUR cult of personality that has me concerned.

  • 283. 94 Grad  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:11 am

    I support so many of these comments here, particularly the one that clarifies the alumni’s opinion on several issues, including the honoring of Joe Paterno.

  • 284. 94 Grad  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:14 am

    One more thing – I hope these “leaders” realize we are not moving on.

  • 285. Marie Cornelius (@mariedc1)  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:19 am

    I think the more than 100,000 boos for Mr. Erickson this past Saturday is an accurate representation of the level of disdain for the current leadership at Penn State. Please stop treating the Alumni like a small bump in the road. We are loud, we are strong, we are many, and we will not quit until you acknowledge your failings and right your wrongs. You know what to do. We are waiting.

  • 286. Dale Wallgren Prugar  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:24 am

    To Karen and BOT (-3):
    The strength of Joe Paterno’s character, his selfless generosity, and the love that he felt for our university, created a ‘culture’ where both academics and athletics thrived at Penn State. During his years of serving and loving Penn State we were unaware of the incompetence of the Penn State BOT’s. Joe’s good deeds buffered us from this reality. He is gone. You fired him. And then he died. He is no longer here to save you from yourselves.
    What Sandusky did was unbelievably horrible. What the Penn State BOT’s did in response was unbelievably unfair and unjust. When did two wrongs magically become the right thing to do? When you placed the blame on Joe, deflecting the attention onto him and away from you, you showed your true colors. In your haste to protect yourselves, you set into motion the chain of events that have ruined the reputation of Penn State University. Now what do you do? You ask that we all ‘move on?’ That cannot happen until the wrongs are made right. There is no excuse for what you have done. It is too late to save your reputations. The pieces of this train wreck cannot be gathered up and the ‘healing’ cannot begin, until the BOT members responsible for firing Joe, are gone. -Dale Wallgren Prugar, Class of 1977.

  • 287. Phil Kirsch 71  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:26 am

    I agree with everyone above. Perhaps Ms. Peetz can comment on our comments in the next issue if she is still on the Board.

  • 288. Monica BAE '85  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Well, the anarchists are rallying, and it seems there are more than a few. Please note, we are tired, and weary, and exhausted from fighting this battle. But….WE WILL NOT MOVE ON. The injustices and absolute incredulous mishandling of this whole event from the beginning, and the way you, the BoT and Admin/AD continue to react with your heads in the clouds is stupefying.
    I have faith that the 3 new trustees can handle it from here with the assistance of a few alumni that truly care about what is best for the University.
    Resign. Now.

  • 289. KC  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:31 am

    Wow! These comments really tell the tale. What angers me the most is that none of the so called leadership stood up for our university!! No one stood up for us. You threw Joe paterno under the bus, never standing up for a man who gave almost his entire life to penn state. Instead, you fire a genuine soul, by phone, and not allowing him to defend himself. He was never found guilty of a crime and you went right along with the media to bring him down. How do you all live with that??? Shame on all of you, and you really need to resign. You are in no way ” success with honor” . I personally got great satisfaction booing the president and athletic director at the game. I will not move on till Joe is vindicated and all of you are out of penn state. Leaders .. You are not!

  • 290. Glenn Kilburn  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Fire Joe! Tear down his statue! He’s the one to blame for all of this! Congrats, Peetz, Erickson, BoT, you did your job. You handed Joe over to the media and let them crucify him without any regards for his family or the sixty-one years he gave to our university. Let’s change the culture, you say. OK, forget that Joe’s players were leaders off the field as well, having one of the highest graduation rates year after year. This year it’s 91 percent, second in the BIG and seventh in the nation. Those grads (now alumni) were Joe’s recruits. But, hey, let’s change the culture! Oh, that’s right, you did keep the Paterno name on the library. Gee, is it because they paid for it? Lastly, let’s not leave Joyner out of this. Joe was his mentor who advised Joyner to go to med school instead of the NFL, yet as a board member he voted to fire Joe. Et tu, Brute! And, guess what, the board appointed him acting AD. What a coincidence! Hypocrites and self-serving cowards, all of you. How dare any of you try to tell us that you are listening to the people who voted you in. Last question: Why are the new board members, who campaigned on the platform of listening to their fellow alums and changing the “culture” (there’s that word again) of the board? Maybe I’ve missed it, but I haven’t read or heard any of them speak out about all of this. Were they served the Kool-Aid and chose to also drink it?

  • 291. GKIII  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Ms. Peetz, please stop speaking in riddles and accept responsibility for the terrible decision making you and your colleagues made in the wake of the Sandusky/Second Mile scandal. Admit that under your leadership Penn State has been gutted. We all deserve better. Come clean. This is a key component to us healing as a community.

  • 292. C. Ronald Oister  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:41 am

    A Board of Trustees made up of 32 individuals is just a rubber-stamp meeting of the next greatest idea. This is not management of a multi-billion business that will address the educational and research needs of past, present and future generations. This group must be replaced with a 15 member professional management team actually interested in Penn State rather than their self-styled ego presentation.

    And…..the sooner the better !!

  • 293. Nicholas G. Nemeth PSU '80 AE  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Your assertion, Ms Peetz, that there are views on both sides of the subject does not seem to be holding up very well, does it?

    No one seems to be agreeing with you except the BoT. Why is that? It seems that we all agree that the BoT is spineless and probably worse. When the vast majority of educated alumni disagree with you and back up that diasgreement with FACTS, you as a good manager should take note and ask yourself if the direction you have taken may be wrong.

    The fact that you and the BoT have had several chances to do so over the past 11 months since this was public plus 6 months prior during the time you knew about it but did not prepare seems to say something more sinister is going on here.

    The culture at Penn State is and was fantastic! WE ARE all tied to the University because of our heart felt admiration of Success With Honor, a topic largely taught to us by Joe Paterno and those who preceeded us at PSU who also followed that greatest of teachings.

    While we all enjoy Football and winning what we really appreciated was how we did it and how it was led by Joe Paterno. Again our culture was not football, it was about the honorable way we went out into the world to win in our own lives as we were taught by great examples at Penn State. We were taught to protect the little guy, those who could not defend themselves, to stand up when someone was unjustly accused and to follow due process and not jump to conclusions. What we are dismayed at is that you and teh members the BoT apparently missed out on those teachings. You certainly are not doing it the right way.

    The only stain on that way of life has been The BoT and its mishandling of this ever so large problem that the BoT magnified instead of managed, corrected and stood by the innocent. From my perspective the only people that I can identify that have not followed Success With Honor are the members of the BoT.

    WHY? Faced with so much opposition you would think that the BoT would reexamine itself. You certainly have had enough time and people to tell you to do so. You are leaving two lasting impressions, one to the general public that everyone associated with Penn State is guilty and second to all of us Penn State alumni, faculty and students that you are covering up something because what you are doing is so far from reality that you are running from something.

    The first thing is untrue and that is half of the reason we are upset. The second needs to be investigated not by someone that the BoT hires but someone truely independent. Certainly there are those on the BoT that have major conflicts of interest and not only should have recused themselves but also they should have resigned.

    Rod Erickson, President and BoT member should resign because he was the one who approved Sandusky’s nonconforming and excessive retirement deal. His hands are far from clean in this matter which means his decisions may be swayed for self protection instead of for the betterment of the University. He has a Conflict of Interest

    Gov. Corbett was the AG for two years of the Sandusky investigation and basically sat on his hands slow playing the investigation while taking direct and indirect contributions from The Second Mile. His hands are not clean and his judgement is swayed by his own political interests. All of his direct appointments and those appointments that are indirectly affected by his power should also recuse themselves and resign. Who are they protecting? Penn State or the Govenor? They all have a conflict of Interest.

    John Surma is known to have disliked Joe Paterno due to family reasons and swayed the BoT back in November to fire Joe Paterno and to oust Spanier. He has a Conflict of Interest and should resign in disgrace.

    Ms Peetz, please let me know where my facts are wrong! You have led this BoT off of a cliff. Your incompetents requires you and the rest of the old guard to resign in an orderly fashion so that a newly elected board that is not influenced by Corbett be put in place. Hopefully that will happen soon but if you have anything to do with it then I doubt that it will be done under your tenure.

    WE ARE PENN STATE, you are NOT!

  • 294. Willie Shoemaker  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:44 am

    I will not donate any money to PSU until Rod and the BOT are removed. The response to the scandal is disgusting at best.

  • 295. Rosemarie Kupchinsky  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:45 am

    There is a fine line between egotism and confidence and based the initial comments of your interview with Karen Peetz, it seems that if Karen was every on the side of confidence she took a super leap across the line, by passing over egotism to mega-egotism. After doing this interview she must have developed shoulder tendonitis from repeatedly patting herself on the back.

    If you were able to read through this article without having a bout of emesis, you have then identified a woman who is out of touch with reality, who is so self absorbed that she thinks anything she says must be accepted and believed by the alumni and the country.

    So let’s review some of Peetz’s Pearls of wisdom:

    “I would have been a better athlete coming out of Penn State if we had the code of conduct that we will now have”.
    This statement is totally illogical. She is equating athletic ability with moral conduct? Her statement leads one to surmise that Ms. Bretherick lacked a moral compass, lacked the structure and discipline to succeed as an athletic and wanted a policy and procedure to guide her behavior. She blames her lack of success in her sport with failure of the university to write directives on a piece of paper. It is also noted that she never mentions academics in this statement.

    “I have an alumni advisory group that started meeting in June”
    This statement again reflects her egotism and implies control over a group of individuals. (She has a group). If anyone knows the list of individuals, who comprise this group and what they do, please share, because research has provide no additional information for the who, what, when , where and how.

    “Really, the call for the whole board to resign is promoting anarchy.”
    One of the definitions of anarchy is -absence of government. The actions and/or failure of actions by the current board of trustees cannot be defined in any other manner but as an absence of government. The board has time and time again shown their inability to make sound and responsible decisions. But they have shown their superior aptitude in their lack of fiduciary responsibility.

    “We had no input, no jurisdiction, no governance over the (Freeh) report – and I hope that came through loud and clear”
    It sure did come through loud and clear. It came through that the contract that the board entered into with the Freeh group lacked appropriate checks and balances to ensure a quality product, no matter the results. It came through that Peetz and the BOT failed to assert oversight relative to the final product of a contracted employee. As the individuals who had oversight in commissioning the investigation and resultant report, it was their responsibility to know what the document contained before opening your mouth in response to said report. It was your responsibility to direct your investigator as to what was expected upon completion of the investigative process. I know of no responsible organization or corporate administrator who would allow a contract employee to hold a press conference relative to the results of their assigned project before the employing agency review that work. What you allowed to happen was just totally irresponsible and inexcusable especially from people (Board of trustee) who are alleged to be leaders in their fields or businesses.

    I could go on and on, but the bottom line is we are angry and we do want a new and revamped board of trustee. We are angry that an exceptional 60 year employee, who had given his all in an honorable manner, was not given due process and was treated with total disrespect, ignominy and disesteem without justification.

    As I read this article, I became more and more angry. Why? The reason is that KAREN PEETZ in response to questions for this article exhibited lack honesty, truthfulness, forth righteousness and an issuance of factual data in her responses. Therefore, instead of appeasing my anger she heightened my anger. It is the creation of a spin doctor, who wants everyone to think that her and her comrades are the only ones who have knowledge, insight and ability to right this ship. The truth is you don’t. They have created additional gales, that if continue, will sink the ship.

    Someone once said, “There is beauty in truth, even if it’s painful. Those who lie, twist life so that it looks tasty to the lazy, brilliant to the ignorant, and powerful to the weak. But lies only strengthen our defects. They don’t teach anything, help anything, fix anything or cure anything.”
    The board of trustees have not fixed anything, have not cured anything and most important have not taught anything that is positive.

  • 296. Jill Farley Bell  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Another disgruntled alumni here – please show me anything approaching proof that our beloved Joe Paterno covered-up a crime – the very idea is ludicrous. Yet for an entire year, the PennStater and the BOT has encouraged and embraced this impression. This is criminal, even evil behavior. In the end, Justice will prevail.

  • 297. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Peetz needs to go. She’s clearly out of touch with the community and needs to return to her glass office at Mellon.

  • 298. DLM  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Peetz is not worthy to be on the BOT. This refusal to defend the longstanding, honorable culture at this univeresity is a travesty. This is what happens when you put a bunch of “politcally correct” people in charge.

  • 299. Greg '89  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Following this as best I can, it seems that the executive committee of the BOT took a bad situation and made it exponentially worse. Disconnected and in denial.

    So nice they are willing to dismiss all of us, yet expect us to fund the results of their poor decisions.

  • 300. SgtCarter  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:54 am

    There will be no progress until Peetz and Erickson are gone. There is no cultural problem but the clueless BOT keeps trying to sell us a load of crap. What a disgrace!

  • 301. Dick Crestood  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Who elected the clueless self serving peetz to her position?

    I do agree with the majority the BOT should be dissmissed

  • 302. Thomas M Kupchinsky '69, '78g  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:02 am

    In response to “Peetz, Erickson Address Alumni Council Again” on October 27, 2012, I am appalled. First of all, Ms. Pearls (Peetz), I am not an anarchist. An anarchist is a person who rebels against rules or any sort of authority. I am against a group of egotists who fail to believe that the largest group of alumni in the United States wants to be treated as college graduates and not a bunch of kindergarteners who need pabulum stuffed down their throats. During your tenure, we hired the Freeh Group who produced a report considered by many to be a farce at best. You and President Erickson gave into a witch hunt by the NCAA bringing down the worst sanctions ever imposed on a member instruction for pseudo-infractions. You have multiple education organizations ready to sanction us for every conceivable notion under the sun. You are capitulating to lawsuits by people supposed abused by Jerry Sandusky which supposedly happened on PSU property. Yet these same individuals are not suing Sandusky or the Second Mile. Why? Because you and President Erickson have stated that we have PLENTY of money to appease their supposed suffering.

    As for “Moving On”, I will move on when we GET THE TRUTH! And believe me I and the rest of the Alumni can handle the truth.

    The good news is that your term expires in June 2013, if you are considering a re-election as a Business & Industry candidate. I challenge you to run as a member of the Alumni Association so that we can ALL show you what we think of you.

  • 303. Kris Coghlan '83  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:04 am

    The Penn State Community needs the complete truth to be able to finally come together and heal. The actions of the BOT and the Chairwoman do not appear to be aligned with the needs of the community. Why does the BOT not get it?

    One clear finding from the past year is that a board comprised of individuals who are “along for the good times” does the University no good when times are tough and serious issues need to be addressed. The basic governance of the University needs to be addressed including the size and composition of the BOT.

  • 304. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:08 am

    Ms. Peetz.

    You should be happy that I have “moved on”. The University will receive absolutely no money from me until you, Dr.Erickson and your excec committee have “moved on” as well. [please take your expertise to some other unsuspecting group] I will continue to support such student endeavors as Thon, Lift for Life etc. in a greater way. These kids truly represent the “culture” you and the BoT sold out so easily.

  • 305. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:09 am

    The entire BOT in place on Nov. 2011 needs to examine themselves and take the judgement they meted out to others – that is resign. After all, the Freeh fantasy indicted them. They need to apologize for their total incompetence in this affair. They should be ashamed of their attempt to smear the name and character of innocent people. They should recognize the huge amount of damage they have done to thousands of innocents. Maybe then, we could move on and correct all the wrongs that have done. But to examine ones self and admit ones mistakes takes courage. BOT, show us your courage. Mark Walker 77

  • 306. Mark VanOuse  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:11 am

    Penn State’s problems are far more than mere “culture” issues. Fundamentally, the leadership structure of university administration is entirely too top heavy, bureaucratic, incredibly slow, outmoded and outdated. It’s awful that it took this scandal to bring this problem to attention, but PSU administration needs to wake up and get a reality check.

    I am concerned, however, that things will not fundamentally change in terms of the administration leadership problems I describe. I’m hearing the “same old, same old” and that everyone will just go back to working in their silos.

    This is the 21st century. PSU administration needs to get their heads out of industrial age, 1940′s leadership thinking and revolutionize administrative structures to be less centralized and more empowering to more people. In the new world of now, organizations that empower more people and move faster are the ones who will succeed. The rest will be left in the dust.

    Don’t get me wrong: there are areas of the university that are pursuing more progressive leadership ideas. Unfortunately, they are in the minority. And they certainly don’t exist in Old Main.

    Old Main is ground zero of where things must fundamentally change.

  • 307. Peter J McAneny  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Peetz, Erickson and Surma are the most incompetent managers ever to hold leadership positions. They have failed to manage every aspect of this sad series of events. Given their record, I would not expect that they would be capable of seeing themselves as failures, nor would I ever expect an apology from any of them for what they have done to PSU.

  • 308. Mick70  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:15 am

    The only way to get the BOT to design is to do what Reb said and I did 3 months ago. I sent an email to the school and said no more donations until the majority of the BOT and Rod resign. Unfortunately only money will talk.

  • 309. Mick70  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:17 am

    make that resign

  • 310. Eric Jay  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:18 am

    The BOT has failed this university, the students, the alumni, and the student athletes. Their mismanagement and apparent attempts to point the finger away from themselves have irreparably damaged OUR University. The Freeh report was a whitewash gone wrong and those responsible should be fired at best, and brought under legal scrutiny wherever possible. If the BOT continue to ignore us at PSU then we will contact them at their place of business or residence.

  • 311. Mick70  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:19 am

    I know someone that works in K. Peetz’s organization. They say she is the same at work…a lot of words come out of her mouth but nothing is said of significance. She continues the same pattern as a trustee unfortunately.

  • 312. joesimonetta  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:25 am

    It has all been noted here in the comments by impassioned writers outraged appropriately. Penn State’s president and board of directors failed the university at a time of profound need. The evidence for this is overwhelming.

  • 313. Dick Crestood  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Give them a choice, demand a 25% refund of all tuition since Spanier took office or resign NOW.

    It is owed due to the tarnished reputation of a fine school

    and the destruction of the complete pride every alum once had of being a graduate of that school

  • 314. Dick Crestood  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:37 am

    and “PLEASE” forward and share this link with anyone and everyone you know who you feel may want to share their thoughts or ideas

    THANKS

  • 315. traderkevin  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:39 am

    “When will the Board of Trustees fight back, defend Penn State, demand due process? You have not done that, and we are anxious for you to do that.”

    Peetz dodged the question, as expected. Perhaps it should have been more specific, such as “Why didn’t the Board of Trustees demand due process from the NCAA? Why didn’t they demand a full and formal investigation by the Committee on Infractions instead of signing off on the Freeh Report being a reliable document?”

  • 316. Lynn Hartzfeld  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:40 am

    This University is in the position it is in now not because of Jerry Sandusky, it is because of the Board of Trustees. If they had handled this situation with even a modicum of responsible leadership, Penn State would be held in a much better light. PLEASE RESIGN – ALL OF YOU.

  • 317. Mick70  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:41 am

    I cannot use sufficient words to express how thoroughly disgusted I am with this Board of Trustees and their appointed President. If they had a shred of self-respect or regard for Penn State they would resign. Instead we are going to be subjected to the stench of their conduct and the continued ineptitude of their decisions for many more years.

    Peetz talked about due process for Curley and Shultz… but why didn’t they stand up and fight for due process for Paterno and Penn State? The BOTs have opened the doors to all punishments and accepted them without a fight. They let Paterno take a lot of the blame. No, it wasn’t Joe Paterno who created these current circumstances. It was your classless firing of Joe Paterno that started it. There was no just cause to fire Joe Paterno or to accept the blame for what Sandusky has done.

    Peetz and the BOT refuse to stand up for our University. Because of this refusal, they have created the mess we are in. It was the Board of Trustees who caused it. A year ago, the Board (before facts were known) made a swift decision to “clean house” but, have neglected to clean their own. The BOT culture that has yet to stand and defend Penn State. The BOT culture that is so completely out of step with the Penn State students, alumni, Penn State Culture that they don’t even realize they need to clean house, let alone know how.

    The only area in which our university has fallen short is with our Board of Trustees and Rodney Erickson. To Penn State’s credit, its achievements consistently exceeds other top universities with its academics, research, and athletic endeavors. It’s safe to say that the only area within Penn State to have a culture “problem” is within the Board of Trustees and President.

    I love Penn State and have for over 42 years. I am the person I am today because of Penn State, long before the current President and BOT were in the picture. I WILL NOT move on until ALL the facts are out and the TRUTH is known. That is what I care about. I CERTAINLY do not in any way mean the Freeh report is factual. I will neither move on nor donate another penny to Penn State until the current President and Board of Trustees is gone. Let’s get it done.

  • 318. A Iorio  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:43 am

    The question posed to Ms. Peetz was “[w]hen will the Board of Trustees fight back, defend Penn State, demand due process? You have not done that, and we are anxious for you to do that.”

    Her reply shows that she is not fit to lead. She talks about the fact that Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz will have due process at their upcoming trials. She also implies that once those trials occur, the leaders at Penn State can determine if it’s time to cry foul on due process and fight back. This is backwards.

    Due process is one of the fundamental guarantees that we as society use to safe-guard against injustice. The idea that the leaders will only fight for due process “after-the-fact” is outrageous. It’s a slap in the face to all Penn Staters.

    To summarize the leaders’ at Penn State’s position:

    - We have commission the Freeh report and take it’s findings as truth. Forget the fact that it’s “findings” are highly suspect. Forget about questioning assumptions, inferences and conclusions. Forget the fact that a lot is still unknown. Forget about due process. Lets just validate the findings and move on.

    - We had no choice to accept the NCAA’s sanctions. We were damned if we do, damned if we don’t. Due process? Not applicable. If we fought the NCAA, it would have been worst. Forget the fact that a lot is still unknown. Forget the fact that the NCAA used our own report against us instead of conducting their own investigation. Forget the fact that no NCAA rules were violated. Lets just take our lickings and move on.

    - We understand that the Alumni are upset. However, we need to wait until the trials of Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz before we reassess whether we can fight. Forget the fact that all of our previous arguments and positions have been based on the position that we don’t need to wait for the trials of Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz to make huge decisions to “help us move on.”

    So I guess we are back to where we began. When will our leaders start fighting for Penn State? When will our leaders start demanding due process?

    I’ve got the answer for you. These leaders won’t fight for Penn State. These leaders won’t demand due process. They have no back-bone. They have no fight. They have no pride. They are not leaders.

  • 319. Annie Pletcher  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:46 am

    We hear what you are saying but, don’t understand. You are talking a foreign language. We speak and understand English.

  • 320. JR Rothenberger '69 Bus.  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:46 am

    The 303 before me have well expressed my sentiments so I won’t go into detail on everything that has occurred from Nov 9 until today. The Sandusky Scandal, an ex-employee who had Erickson sign off on his Emeritus status, has been turned into a Penn State scandal by your actions.

    It’s been handled in typical huge corporation fashion, quickly find persons to blame, write a lot of checks for PR and a report that indicates those in power made the right decision and pay off those that have been damaged and “move forward”

    Unfortunately major corporations have the ability to recoup their disaster recovery much easier than an educational institute. Even more unfortunate, the truth of what caused this debacle has been far from uncovered. The failures of government, government agencies and a charity charged with looking for abuse all came long before Mike McQ saw something in a shower in 2001. That and the too close relationship between those in power at Penn State and TSM. This issue won’t die without some true transparency and the BoT of Nov 2011 isn’t going to get us there.

  • 321. westie  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Somehow, the “Penn State culture” was not able to permeate the BOT. Too insulated I suppose. Otherwise, PSU would not be in such a horrible situation. Please, Ms. Peetz. Start the healing process. Accept some responsibility. Move on. Resign. Today.

  • 322. bobagain  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:49 am

    I see so many on-point comments here. Where is that divided alumni Erickson says he hears? I am sure some alumni in his prescence “pat him on the back” and as an academic, it feels good to him. The comments here sum up the debacle. And it will end up costing PennState about 500m or more when all is said and done. No one seems to want to add up the real costs so far, so I do not think we’ll ever really know.

  • 323. bigd1992  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:52 am

    I can’t decide whether the board of trustees is incompetent in handling the crisis, or corrupt in that they shifted the blame to the athletic department to cover up their own misdeeds.

    Duane Radmore 1992

  • 324. Jen  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Karen Peetz said she willingly went after the Chair seat after it was vacated by Surma. She should have understood that she now will be held accountable for the actions of the BoT and its failures to provide due process and a defense for PSU. Surma and Corbett were instrumental in railroading the decisions made in November we’ve not seen or heard much from Kool-Aid drinking Surma since. Corbett on the other hand is trying hard to spin his side and now blames the democrats and media, he is delusional. And now Ms. Peetz has to answer to the many failures of the BoT. Transparancy? Still waiting. Defending PSU? Still waiting. Allowing Erickson to state PSU will settle any claim? Where’s the fudiciary responsibility?

    As for having only a small portion of people not accepting the move on concept, the boos from Saturday’s game for Erickson came from every direction of the stadium which holds 107,000. That is not a small minority, there are many, many more alumni that feel the same but have not been as vocal. I would contend that the small minority would be of those that are accepting the move on process.

    Culture? She states we loved the culture and then deflect about understanding the abstract. Peetz obviously doesn’t get the culture. Alumni love the campus, the student life which includes many activities other than football (greek life, student government, cheering on basketball, wrestling, lacrosse, soccer, swimming at the nat, etc). Alumni love the town, grilled stickies, Zeno’s, the Arts Festival the FEELING you have when you are there. Oh yes some of us even love football. We received a top notch education and have ties for life that are amazing! MS Peetz….it is an entire package NOT one component. She touts her student-athlete prowess and all that she gained but it is not apparent she gets the culture.

    Ms. Peetz has continually opened her mouth and contradicted earlier statements she has made. The trust level for her alone is abismal at best. She now wants to wait for due process of Curley and Shultz but afforded no due process for Paterno or Spanier. She admits the BoT did not have time to read the Freeh report when the NCAA sanctions were handed down. Instead of coming to PSU’s defense she bumbled her way through a hastily set up new conference in which she laid blame on the named administrators and now is looking for due process.

    In order for the University to move forward there needs to be a MAJOR restructuring of the Board, how it votes, who votes and who gets to serve. Until you start from the top down change will not happen.

  • 325. Ellen Meissner  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:54 am

    From the article….”Peetz finished her prepared remarks by asking for two things from council members: their “understanding and tolerance” as the board and the university continue dealing with fallout from the scandal, and their “visible support” in continuing to “speak out for Penn State” as leaders in their communities.”

    WOW! Not sure where to begin….I have no understanding nor any tolerance for Ms. Peetz, Dr. Erickson, nor the rest of the 2011 BoT. THEY are the problem, THEY are causing the fallout, and THEY are now the scandal. THEY are not speaking out for Penn State, THEY are speaking out AGAINST Penn State. And she used the word “leaders”…..would love to hear their definition of leader. What world do these people live in?

    Bottom line – RESIGN NOW and get some true leaders.
    E. Meissner, PSU 83

  • 326. bobagain  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Everyone, stand up again and boo. Here it loud BoT BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • 327. Glenn Kilburn  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:00 am

    The NCAA went outside their jurisdiction to hand down their sanctions. They used the incredible Freeh report, which totally belongs in the realm of legal arguments, which is outside the lines for the NCAA. If only Erickson had the __lls to tell Emmerts, “Bring it on”, and use the money he and the board have wasted to sue the NCAA, we wouldn’t be in this situation of punishing our past players, Coach Paterno, and the current and future teams. It would have also shown leadership and support for the university for which he is employed.

  • 328. SgtCarter  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:08 am

    The BOT has proven itself to be totally incompetent crisis managers, tone deaf to the alumni and, at times, flat out dishonest. We do not trust Rodney “the Cowadly Lion” Erickson or the BOT executive committee. Four men were given a trial by media and convicted without a chance to defend themselves. Trying to erase Joe Paterno’s existence is another insult to us all. He had more character than this BOT will ever have.

  • 329. Carole Vail  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:21 am

    We are mad as hell, and we ‘re not going to take it anymore! I’ve never seen a worse miscarriage of justice in my lifetime, and I am old. Ms. Peetz, Fraudney Erickson, John Surma, Dave Joyner, the entire BOT, except for Lubrano and McCombie, and yes, even The Penn Stater magazine, which has compromised its integrity and lost its credibility by becoming the Bureau of Propaganda are all beneath contempt.

  • 330. mrmark  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Please resign.

  • 331. Carole Vail  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:28 am

    The only reason anyone would hire this incompetent is that he is a reliable shill and will report whatever his client dictates.The BOT paid him 60+ million dollars for fantasy and lies.

    http://swampland.time.com/2012/04/24/where-theres-smoke-theres-louis-freeh/

  • 332. Michael '83  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:32 am

    When this all started, a friend of mine asked me what should the PSU BoT do. I responded that they have the easiest job in the world. Simply do whatever the District Attorney wants. Do not impede the investigation by any means, and do not what-so-ever create any more accused than DA has already selected. Let the justice system do its job and we all will have due process. Unfortunately, for all Penn Staters, the PSU BoT had a different agenda in mind.

    Dearest Ms Peetz:

    We do understand that you and your BoT buddies would like to move on.
    Why? Just like a hit and run driver, you want to cowardly speed away from your mistakes and failures hoping no one will notice the massive damage you have caused.

    We get that you did not need to read/review the Freeh Report.
    Why? Because you had paid for and directed its content from the onset. The only thing you are sad about is that Mr. Freeh could not come up with data to support your misguided narrative.

    We know that you do want to stand-up for Penn State with the NCAA.
    Why? Because to do so would admit that your false narrative in the Freeh Report is incorrect. In fact, you would happily watch PSU burn to the ground to cover your own tracks.

    Yes Ms Peetz, We understand you perfectly!

  • 333. Steve  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:37 am

    If anyone still has any doubt about the current leadership just ask yourself this: If these “leaders” took this same action or lack of action at their respective companies (Mellon Bank, US Steel, Merck, etc.) would they still have a job? They botched this terribly from overpaying for a bogus investigation, to having it read without any fact checking, to allowing the NCAA to use it as the basis to punish our innocent student athletes. Their decisions have made a terrible situation WORSE and their leadership is costing our school millions upon millions that true leaders could have avoided. They speak for themselves and are not defending The Pennsylvania State University, our students, our faculty, or our alumni. If Ms. Peetz blamed the “culture” of Mellon Bank instead of placing it squarely on the former employee that was responsible for the crime, how would the investors react? How would her board respond to these statements of admission and accepting of blame? The answer is easy… she would be gone in a heart beat. Why should Penn State allow it to continue just because there is no system in place to hold her accountable?

  • 334. John Willson  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Peetz talks of due process. That is exactly what was not done for Paterno and for Penn State.
    Where was the fortitude of Erickson and Peetz when they accepted the Freeh report as gospel and then rolled over when confronted with the draconian and unprecedented NCAA sanctions?
    It is my opinion that both Peetz and Erickson should resign along with the Trustees that allowed this debacle to happen.
    I am not only disgruntled. I am disgusted and disheartened.

  • 335. Googsdad  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:43 am

    The current BOT and administration have done a huge disservice to anyone who even remotely considers themselves to be a part of the Penn State community. The entire board needs to go ASAP!

  • 336. Thomas1974  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:44 am

    The Penn Stater should assign a reporter to capture the essence of these 330 comments for publication in the next edition. The 100% consensus view that Peetz and Erickson have been abject failures is striking.

    I have been told by the Alumni Association’s leadership repeatedly that the “Association cannot take any particular side in the ongoing debate among the university’s constituencies.” If true, it seems only fair that the positive article the magazine published on Peetz should be balanced by a similarly positive article covering the range, breath and wisdom of opposing points of view.

    I don’t plan to hold my breath waiting for Tina Hay to do the right thing…

  • 337. Robert Sutter_1958  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Ms. Peetz we are not divided.

  • 338. Rhonda, HPA '90  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Oh, and by the way, I commented above at #68, but must now direct my ire to the Penn Stater: Tina, I’m ashamed of you, too.

  • 339. Carole Vail  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:56 am

    The Penn Stater = The Bureau of Propaganda

  • 340. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:58 am

    I just cannot believe a governing body of an institution like Penn State University could so recklessly handle a situation. First, at least a few, probably more, knew about this prior to it hitting the news. Why wasn’t something done then and get ahead of the problem instead of doing the knee-jerk decisions which harmed innocent people with no due process or fact finding at all. That’s what true leaders would do. But then it continued. Accepting the Freeh Report where only gross assumptions were made quite often and allowing it ruin many further lives who had nothing to do with it whatsoever. And ruin a University. I just do not know how our type of University could have acquired such a dreadful collection of so called trustees to lead us. That is what needs to be looked into in order to improve our culture.

  • 341. Nils Anderson - PSU Class of 83  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    I disagree and do not accept the statements of Ms. Peetz and University President Erickson. The BoT and the President must stop apologizing, start making definitive statements in support of The Pennsylvania State University, and properly publicly recognize Joe Paterno for his contributions to the University and as Head Football Coach. The BoT should also fundamentally reorganize to put Alumni elected members in charge of the Executive Committee and BoT Chair, and move forward quickly with the selection of a new President.

  • 342. James Boyle Class of 1986  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    All B.O.T. members from 11/9/11 need to resign. These people are not leaders.

  • 343. Dick Crestood  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    The demise of a great school started when Spanier took office, lets start there, peetz, spanier, surma and the list goes on

  • 344. Edward Hockenberry  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    The BOT along with Erickson and Joiner are making a mockery of due process and openness. The utter hypocrisy, outright lying, and complete ineptitude is unfathomable. I am embarrassed that these people represent my university.

  • 345. Andrew J. Karpinski  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    At least I am heartened to see that the large mass of PSU alumni are NOT moving on, and do NOT support the BOT. Ms. Peetz may not think we are “super-relevant”, but in time, she will get the message. We must stand up and be heard, so that the scoundrels that are running this university into the ground are expunged from their positions and real leaders chosen. Ms. Peetz and Mr. Erickson have chosen to look the other way, instead of looking for the truth, and hoped that the public execution of Joe Paterno was enough to make sure that the light of inquiry did not shine their way. We must let it happen. I personally am of the opinion that our governor, as well, is part of this cover-up to avoid the truth.

    Fringe element, indeed.

  • 346. Gary Koblitz '67  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Erickson regarding a tribute to Joe Paterno:

    “I personally think that we need some more time, time for reflection. I personally think to do something right now will push us apart rather than push us together.”

    Peetz on due process:

    Peetz noted that Tim Curley ’76, ’78g and Gary Schultz ’71, ’75g will have due process; their trial is scheduled for January. “So, frankly, after all that is said and done, then we’ll have to say, ‘OK, what does that inform us about the situation, and what do we do at that point?’” Peetz said. “Who knows what will be at that point? I’m sorry I can’t give you a more definitive answer, but the answer is: There’s more to come.”

    So where were their thoughts during last November, December, January, and beyond about “time for reflection” and waiting for more evidence, such as with the Curley and Schultz trials? (By the way, Ms. Peetz, I believe the question about due process referred to more than the Curley/Schultz situations. You ducked the question.) It seems that they were ready to react spontaneously then to erase a school icon’s legacy and readily throw the entire university under the bus even before the flawed Freeh report was released. Where was the offense? Where were the calls for patience in letting justice play out? That’s not to say a certain degree of contriteness was not appropriate, but to self-inflict terrible wounds to the university, its alumni, and its students was rash, stupid, and poor crisis management.

    And by the way, would someone please ask Erickson for details behind awarding Sandusky emeritus status. After all, Erickson was involved in that decision, and it seems to me what he might have to say about that might be revealing of what other accused Penn State leaders knew or didn’t know at the time about Sandusky.

  • 347. PSU class of 70'  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Erickson, Peetz, and the members of the November Board of Trustees, by their inept handling of this crisis. took what was a Sandusky Scandal and made it a Penn State/Paterno scandal. Most alums have no confidence in their leadership. They need to resign or be replaced.

  • 348. Leonard Epp 1970g  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Dear BOT, Why does Jerry Sandusky deserve due process and critical inquiry while Joe Paterno does not?

  • 349. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    My main complaint is this entire criticism of “culture” and the re-framing of the PSU message that is being sent out. There is not a culture issue at Penn State, and there never has been. It’s a convenient excuse for the BOT and helps with their PR campaign to “move on” but you are really throwing the baby out with the bathwater. By using this as an excuse, you put down and degrade every graduate of the university. I went to Penn State because of the culture, and now you are going to tell me that the culture was bad and needs to be thrown out. That can only mean that I was wrong and what I was a part of was the problem all along.

  • 350. Photoyogi  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Ms Peetz,

    Open your ears and eyes!

    We are telling you to resign because you have continually driven the University into the ground. You represent us and WE DO NOT WANT YOU AT PENN STATE. Please resign and get out.

    You will be brought down. This will not stop because we love our school. You will lose when Corbett goes down. Believe me. No sleep for your self-serving being. The shame!!

  • 351. Richard Henry  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    While living out of state and having minimal contact with fellow Penn Staters, I am heartened by the replies above. Fight On State!!!

    Class of 66

  • 352. Michael H Brown  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Ms Peetz and Pres Erickson continue to obfuscate and dodge the issues that are dividing the alumni from the PSU leadership. The BOT made rash decisions in the wake of the release of the Sandusky Grand Jury findiings in firing Joe Paterno without allowing him to speak publicly about the accusations and with no consideration for his exemplary service to the university for over 50 years. Pres Erickson IMO is not telling the truth when he describes the supposed ultimatum he faced from Dr Emmert of the NCAA. He accepted the sanctions without taking exception to any of it when what is described as a culture in which sports dominated academics at the university couldn’t have been more false. Joe Paterno spoke many times about the need to strengthen the academics of Penn State not the sports teams. He gave millions of his own money toward that end.

    From the beginning the BOT the the university leadership has been willling to do anything to try and make this whole affair go away instead of ensuring the thorough investigations of all issues were completed before decisions and irrevocable actions were taken. In their efforts they were more than willing to throw Paterno under the bus. In the process Mr. Surma and probably others were able to settle long standing grudges against a man who deserved much better than the treatment he received from a university for which he had done so much.

    I am disgusted by a university that I once loved because the cowardice and lack of moral compass on the part of the entire leadership of the university. I am a PSU graduate, LIfetime Alumni and member of the Nittany Lion Club. I am the first in my family to graduate from college and my two brothers followed me in graduating from Penn State. We all were taught right and wrong and learned how to think analytically. The Freeh report is laughable and to accept it and thereby give tacit approval of its so-called conclusions is unconscienable.

  • 353. Michelle Kramer-Fitzgerald '92  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    As a past member of Alumni Council, I applaud Council Member Liz Bligan’s questioning and even wish she had been more aggressive in follow-up. If I had still been on Council, you’d better believe I’d have had some questions and statements for both Peetz and Erickson that wouldn’t have been quite as congenial as most. I’m disgusted with the entire BoT and administration for continuing to treat everything like a PR junket or a CYA maneuver. DO the right thing(s). HEAR your alumni. RESPOND in a compassionate, respectful, and LONG OVERDUE manner. My money stays with me until I see any evidence that this will happen. Don’t make me ashamed to sing the words of my own alma mater because you’re too afraid to stand up for what ARE the real Penn State values and culture that we all know.

  • 354. SgtCarter  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    The 11/2011 BOT’s handling of this mess will be used as a case study in How NOT TO Manage a Crisis for years to come. Did you hear the boos Saturday Rodney?

  • 355. Robert Deak  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    I will NOT move on unless and until the BoT acknowledges the gross inaccuracies of the Freeh report and the carefully-crafted narrative that a coverup occured to protect the football program. Since November, when they fired Joe Paterno without due process, the board has been instrumental in making this a Penn State scandal causing the University to face unprecedented penalties, settlements and a probation with the threat on losing its accreditation. You call this leadership? I call sabotage.

  • 356. Ed Smith  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Karen, so sorry your European vacation was ended early. I know you complained about the fact you had to leave early to return to deal with these issues.

    Perhaps you should resign and take a long sabatical in Europe. Then you wouldn’t need to be bothered by such trivial things as saving the University that you chair the BOT of!!

  • 357. Michael Smukler  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    It is unbelievable that the BOT and university leadership simply do not understand how much damage they have done to the University. I have spoken to several hundred alumni since last November and have only found one person (who got his master degree from Michigan) who support the BOT and the handling of Paterno. Here was a man who dedicated his life to the advancement of the University. He personally raised millions of dollars, built a library, converted an agriculture college to a world university, and the University cannot even put his initials on the team jersey’s which is traditional in football when an influential person passes away. The BOT has based everything on the Freeh report which is an inaccurate account of what happened. Freeh was not independent and the people that hired him used him to cover up their own negligence on this issue. It was quite obvious that Freeh interviewed selective people who had an axe to grind or were intimidated by the BOT and administration as to what was said.

    Class of 1972

  • 358. Mike King  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Mrs. Peetz,

    You make a good point about companies assessing and sometimes changing their cultures. I have been apart of many of those initiatives over the years. And in most instances, the end results have been positive. But let me tell you how those assessments work. When all the details from questionnaires, subcommittees, focus groups, etc. is compiled and summarized it is then distributed to top management. Top management takes their time and reviews all the areas. Then top management meets with various leadership groups and reviews in details every conclusion knowing that not everything should or needs to be acted on immediately.

    Where the Penn State leadership/board failed miserably has to do with time and credibility. Even the best speed readers could not have had sufficient time to review the report. There was no discussions, no dissecting the report to determine what is alarming, what may be bogus, what may have some merit. Instead a few leaders decided for all of us that there was no need to read and understand the report and that the report was 100% factual.

    These leaders surely didn’t become successful in their real jobs acting the way they did. Why treat our esteem university otherwise?

    One very frustrated alumni.

  • 359. Brian Hoffheins  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    I’m delighted to see how eloquently and succinctly these comments show that the Alumni are not divided on this issue. The comments show me that there is still hope for this University. I to am disgusted by a university that I once loved because the cowardice and lack of moral compass on the part of the entire leadership of the university. This includes the faculty senate, who recently prepared an appropriate letter to the NCAA, but voted to not endorse the statement.

    We the Alumni need to take back this University from the current administration and BOT. Their handling of this situation since March 2011 is more despicable than anything Freeh clams the previous administration did.

    Please Peetz, Surma, Erickson, Joyner, et.al. resign and let the Alumni who want to defend the reputation and culture of this University determine the future of Dear old State.

  • 360. Brian Stairs class of 1995  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Ms. Peetz, Mr. Erickson, and the November 2011 BOT need to imediately resign. Ms. Peetz you continue to be intellectualy dishonest, and continue to lead a coverup of your own poor actions/inactions. Ms. Peetz I am tired of your arrogance and elitism. What all Penn Staters want is the truth, and we will not move on until then.

    I am extremely proud of the “Penn State Football Culture” and what Joe Paterno stood for. Joe Paterno was a man of integrity, a leader, a man of faith, and he had a conviction to doing things the right way. It is a tragedy that the BOT has not followed his example. The BOT has ignored the quest for the truth and has not allowed due process to take place. You cannot put the sins of one man onto another as the BOT and Erickson continue to do.

    Joe Paterno had more leadership in his worst moment than anyone in an Old Main office or on the BOT has shown. Ms. Peetz did you or Mr. Erickson actually read the Freeh Report? Do either of you suffer from the lack of reading comprehension or do you think you can contiune the coverup of your poor leadership? Joe Paterno said you either getter better or you get worse that nothing stays the same. Ms. Peetz you had failed your duties and made the Pennsylvania State University worse.

  • 361. LynnT  |  October 30, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    I found this article and the one in the magazine very disappointing as Peetz just answers questions with more questions. Just like a good politician who either doesn’t have an answer or wants to steer the line of questioning another way to something less uncomfortable.

    Examining the culture at Penn State is just fine. I have no problems with anyone doing that. You will find the only issues with our culture lie with how the Board of Trustees handled this entire situation from November, 2001 through today. Knee-jerk reactions and media-appeasing seem to rule all decisions. Is this what the PR firm you hired is telling you to do? Your actions indicate you believe Penn State is guilty in this fiasco. It follows then that you as leaders must resign.

  • 362. Jeffrey Brown '87  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    “Peetz added that any such commemoration would be university-driven, not trustees-driven.” – What the #%&@ does this mean??? Don’t the Trustees make decisions on behalf of the University? What about the hiring of Freeh and the “acceptance” of the Report without review or vetting. What about every single action that the Executive Committee of the Board has taken, both in this matter and before? These elitists and their bought-and-paid-for politicians think they can bleed the University, like vampires, with impunity and then separate themselves from the responsibilities. Nothing in her comments contained in this article smacked more of TRUTH than this.

  • 363. Dick Crestood  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Elizabeth Smart ad Sugar Ray Leonard as speakers on child abuse issues GOOD OR BAD?

    I say it is just another distraction planned by peetz and her clueless cult of greed mongers

  • 364. Ron  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Erickson and Peetz wanted to re brand PSU as an academic institution instead of what they perceived as an athletic driven image. They fact that they felt that change was needed tells you how far out of touch the “leaders” are with reality.

    Thrown in a few civil leaders protecting their own image (and wallet), an NCAA President looking for anything to avoid making a decision on his own, and a bitter shrill women looking for payback on Paterno and the male culture surrounding the team.

    It was the perfect storm of cowardly behavior, knee jerk reaction and poor leadership and it was swallowed by the hungry sensationalist media straight from the BOT’s incompetent teet.

    In doing so they did damage beyond the football team. The entire reputation of the school was tarnished. The media wasn’t some bitter girl out to trash the “jocks” in retaliation for some prom they weren’t asked to. They wanted to burn the whole school down.

    Only the proud alumni and fans would not let them. They spoke up and accepted blame even though the scope of culpability has not been established. Our new football coach has moved passed the shock and pity phase and is ushering in a new era.

    What about the cowardly fiber that created this stool?
    The NCAA is still beating its chest while ignoring blatant infractions by North Carolina and Miami. The second mile has vanished, and the Gov is in cover up mode for election season. And where are PSU’s leaders? Pushing for everyone to move on. Not rebuilding the schools image or working with the NCAA to reduce sanctions.

    If you were not smart enough to see how your little plot would implode, you are not smart enough to be a leader. Step down today and let people come in who care about the school and all those it effects.

  • 365. geoa201  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    The Board members who were present when the Sandusky scandal hit in November 2011, by Louis Freeh’s own words, were unprepared to handle the events and their decision-making processes at that time. Within ten days after being formed on November 11, 2011, the Special Investigations Task Force retained the Freeh Sporkin & Sullivan law group. Were the Board members suddenly cleansed with a waterfall of preparedness after November 09, 2011? The tactic of the Board of Trustees during the entire Sandusky scandal has been to avoid talking about their own actions , inactions and mistakes… and instead use the tools of deflection and marketing to appear confident and in control of the University. Some of the Board members are leaders in their chosen career fields, and the appearance of not leading Penn State University through an unprecedented scandal would not benefit them in their chosen careers.

    Instead of pushing their actions, inactions, and mistakes under the rug, the Board needs to have complete transparency about all actions involving them with the Sandusky scandal – including all Board connections to the various people involved in any way with the Freeh Sporkin & Sullivan investigation. The Board assumes that with the public apology administered by Ken Frazier and Karen Peetz that they are therefore absolved from explaining their decision-making processes before, during, and after the Sandusky scandal went public. Penn State University does not have to relive this tragedy, but everyone is entitled to the honesty that must be present in order to heal and move forward.

    As Penn Staters, we all deserve better than deflection and marketing by the people who have been entrusted with the care of the University. We need transparency and answers to tough questions, we need to know that the people we place in these positions within the University can be trusted, and we all need to know that Penn State has – and will have – the leadership to protect, defend, and lead this great institution.

  • 366. Dick Crestood  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    “EVERYONE” please forward the link to this to peetz’s employeer

    http://www.bnymellon.com/investorrelations/index.html

  • 367. pennstgrad  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    The Freeh Report has turned out to be a sham given that this clown will say anything the person writing the $12 million dollar check wants and the BOT does nothing about this? I’m guessing Corbett recommended Freeh? What is Corbett hiding over at the Second Mile that no one wants to look into? Corbett donors who may have there fingers dirty? Why does Corbett and Freeh want all fingers pointed at Paterno?

  • 368. Dick Crestood  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    https://www.bnymellon.com/contact/index.cfm

  • 369. Adam Clapper  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    Erickson and Peetz the two worse people for Penn State. I have decided not to send my children to Penn State due to the lack of leadership. Maybe if they are both gone and better people replaced them I would reconsider. They better realize that there are hundreds of people like me if not thousands.

  • 370. Carole Vail  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    You bet Corbett recommended Freeh.
    http://www.centredaily.com/2012/07/20/3266906/corbetts-role-under-scrutiny.html

  • 371. pnnylion  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Freeh, Erickson, Emmert, Peetz and John “The Man oif Steal” Surma are all disgraces.

    These people seek to shame a great institution and innocent football program.

    In retrospect, they shame only themselves.

  • 372. Townie Grad 89  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    The structure of the board needs a complete overhaul. There should be a representative from each college in the system and the grad school. That cuts the size of the board roughly by half. There need not be all these political hacks and hangers-on, All trustees should have a vested interest in PSU, i.e. be EMPLOYED THERE. Membership on the board should not be a hobby. The staggering failure of leadership by these people for a solid year now would have been mitigated if the board were comprised fully of those who had Penn State as their top priority, not membership on other boards. I firmly believe that.

    Instead we have a bloated collection of people who are beholden to others outside the institution both politically and professionally. We have to stop trying to serve all these masters. This is Penn State. Our school should be directed and led by our own people, autonomously. Get the governor and the secretaries out.

  • 373. Deborah Dee George  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    As I sit here and ponder, I keep hearing “Move Forward”. I hear the words of Lisabeth Kubler-Ross, PhD, in my mind. Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. I speak for myself, and many others. We are in the anger stage! How dare you ask us to jump to acceptance! Just accept the decisions of Erickson, Peetz, and the BoT,while their decisions have plummeted the value of our educations, taken PSU through the trenches of sanctions, shame and despair, based on the Fact Freeh Report! Some of the worse decisons made in a time of crisis. The BoT is the worst “change agent” I have ever seen!
    The stages do not have to always be in sequence. But, this time, they do! There is NO bargaining with the BoT, NCAA, Freeh Report, etc. Peetz, Erickson, and the BoT are in a boat (group) of their own. They fail to address the concerns from the “Sea” of the Penn State family. Until certain questions are answered, we will remain angry! And, we will stay angry until the questions are answered, unless the current Administration and BoT resign now. Until that time, there will be no “Move Forward” for anyone! Instead of a string of pearls around Peetz’ neck, we are and will remain the albatross!

  • 374. mmz119  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    I can not and will not stand by to watch this great University be led by individuals who put their self interests above those of which they represent on the Board of Trustees. The BOT is led by individuals with self interests to the Companies they belong to and who’s board they sit on. See Karen Peetz, NY Mellon, John Surma, US Steel, Ken Frazier, Merck, etc. The image portrayed by them sitting on the Penn State BOT in some ways could affect their standing with their companies they represent. I get that, I understand it. BUT it in no way makes it okay to throw US aside to protect your companies. How does a publicly traded company move past bad publicity? You move on quickly to change the narrative. Well NEWS FLASH to the BOT, this is not a publicly traded company. There is something that ALL companies lack, which Universities do not. It’s pride, it’s honor, it’s a sense of doing what’s right. You lack an understanding of these fundamental issues with this University. The alumni gave at least 4 years of their life and tens of thousands of dollars to claim Penn State as their Alma Mater. The decision to attend Penn State was not taken lightly.

    What you need to do is quit trying to move everyone past the transgressions of the past year. You have done a disservice to the victims and those “involved”. This is not a “Lets Save Joe’s Reputation” ra ra speech. This is being written to hopefully bring an understanding of what went wrong and to slow down on accepting of blame because it’s the quickest way to get the media off your back. You need to wait and gather all of the facts. This is not an open and shut case. This is a very complex matter that needs addressed and let the chips fall where they may. I and all other alumni want the truth, no matter how it might shatter our pride, our honor, and our sense of doing what’s right.

  • 375. DLBPSU  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    The President and BOT has mishandled every aspect of this situation. Shortly after the news hit the media last November, it would have been totally appropriate for the leadership at PSU to announce that Joe, McQueary, Curley, Scultz, and Spanier were being placed on ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE until a complete and thorough investigation was performed to determine what occurred during this chain of events. But no, they stupidly fired Paterno in the most undignified manner possible which led to the media firestorm that trashed his and our university’s reputation forever.

    Then, they announce the hiring of Freeh to complete his investigation. What a joke – even I knew that none of the above individuals would talk to Freeh’s group on advice of their counsel as the legal issues were developing. What type of investigation could be complete and thorough if the main participants were not going to speak to the investigators?

    Next, they allow Louie to conduct a press conference without any prior discussion as to his content or the accuracy of his remarks.

    Finally, they and Rodney decide to accept any and all media trashing of our institution with no questioning of the report or facts. Rodney was was out of his league when he agreed to the sanctions and the consent degree.

    The BOT and Rodney need to resign and permit people that have the best interests of Penn State at the front of their minds.

  • 376. Stacie  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    It is time for The Penn Stater magazine to put up or shut up. During this whole debacle the publication has claimed neutrality. However pieces like this and the previous publications show quite the opposite. It is refreshing to see that so many people share my feelings of frustration with our ‘leaders’. If you want to remain a credible voice for ALL alumni, it is time to do an in-depth, non-biased piece on groups such as PS4RS and PSU-ReBoT. When will our voices be heard beyond the comment section of an online blog and the very few letters you choose to publish in the print edition? Clearly there is a large population of angry alumni who are taking the opportunity this blog has allowed to vent. This magazine has a responsibility to showcase all the complex sides of this ordeal to maintain any sense of legitimacy with me (and i presume many others) as a reader. Will The Penn Stater do the right thing?

  • 377. wlevinson  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    “The 11/2011 BOT’s handling of this mess will be used as a case study in How NOT TO Manage a Crisis for years to come.” I plan to include it in my book “Mandate of Heaven: to Hold and Rule.”

    Mandate of Heaven = the Chinese concept that one derives the right to lead through service to one’s stakeholders. The Trustees and Erickson blew their mandate months ago. Nobody respects or trusts them, so there is a leadership vacuum at Penn State.

  • 378. Tom Perambo  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Without time to read all the responses, I’ll just do a Freeh and make baseless assumptions. I’ll assume that this hasn’t been covered.

    When I worked on a particular law enforcement task force, we were faced with absolutely clueless supervisors who either came up with stupid suggestions or just stood in the way, so we ignored them. Finally we put up a calligraphied sign in our task force office that read ,”The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.” They somewhat got the message.

    Well, it seems that we’re the dogs and the BOT is the caravan, and no matter what we say or do, the caravan just keeps moving as we bark!

    Is there an alternate to voting them out, one-by-one?

  • 379. Lori Shipley  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Stop acting like we’re stupid and willing to follow whatever you or the media decree, Karen. Read the comments. We’re not falling for your lies. You know you’ve done wrong – fix it.

  • 380. wlevinson  |  October 30, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    ” Instead of a string of pearls around Peetz’ neck, we are and will remain the albatross!”

    Lipstick on a pig, pearls on a Peetz… it’s still a pig and a Peetz respectively. Peetz, Erickson, Surma, Eckel, and so on are the collective albatross around the Nittany Lion’s neck–or the collective millstone around Penn State’s neck.

    As for the Freeh Report, if I was Graham Spanier (or Curley, or Schultz if they are acquitted), I would sue the Freeh Group for libel and also Penn State for affirming what is probably defamation via Peetz’s de facto robo-signing of the Freeh Report. Joe Paterno can’t sue because he is dead, but maybe his estate can claim damage to Paterno-brand merchandise. (Not legal advice, I am not a lawyer, but I encourage Dr. Spanier and Mrs. Paterno to talk to one.)

    http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/robo-signer.asp for Karen Peetz’s handling of Freeh’s press release. ” Rather than actually reviewing the individual details of each case, robo-signers assume the paperwork to be correct and sign it automatically, like robots. “

  • 381. Chris Sheedy  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Karen is right about our culture. We need to STOP graduating so many football players. In this era where everyone gets a trophy for showing up, it’s probably making the other schools like LSU and Syracuse feel bad. Meanwhile, it was the BoT, knowing full well about the investigation, that had Sandusky on the suites at the Illinois game; once again proving that it is the BoT culture that needs to change, not the football culture. As for running a business, what do you call it when the leaders running a business make “the most important decisions of their careers” by accepting a report THAT THEY ADMIT THEY DIDN’T READ!!!

  • 382. I Lion  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    DLBPSU, well stated!

  • 383. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    I personally want to thank Karen Peetz and the BOT for their amazing ability to UNITE a diverse alumni. Keep up the good work. But do it by moving on…on to your next endeavor.

    As for the Penn Stater, I intend to shred the issue and return it to the office of the Alumni Association. I encourage all fellow alumni to do the same. the AA has failed those who they directly represent.

  • 384. BBooth  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    The BOT needs to resign. JS did not destroy the reputation of Penn State. It was destroyed by the BOT who turned their back on their own employees and assumed guilt without any evidence to back up that assumption. It is impossible to move on without fixing some of the severe damage the BOT has done to Penn State,

  • 385. Karen Wilson  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    .The BOT will NEVER commemorate Joe Paterno….they fired him…not because of his supposed actions/inactions, but because they wanted him gone. This whole mess, in their mind, gave them justifiable reason to do so. It was personal. They viewed Joe’s remark that he’d retire at the end of the season as a slap in the face to their authority.
    Personally, I don’t want them to honor Joe. He deserves better. He deserves to be commemorated by a people who recognize him as a man of honor that gave so much to the University these clowns are destroying.

    Admit your failure to lead this University. Admit that your personal feelings have dictated every stupid move you’ve made as a board. You people don’t care about Penn State’s future. Nothing that you have done is for the victims. You’ve proven yourselves as the most self-serving board that has ever attempted to manage an institution. JUST RESIGN.

  • 386. Tom Iliffe  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    As a 1970 PSU grad, I have never felt more embarrassed and ashamed of the University as a result of the recent actions of our current president, Karen Peetz and the rest of the BOT. Please do us a big favor and resign now so that we can move on without you!

  • 387. Michael Peterson  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Ms. Peetz you need a reality check. These comments represent the feelings of Penn State alumni everywhere. I don’t care what your resume shows because it is clear you are in way over your head. Do us all a favor and step down from your post.

  • 388. rjmiller  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Does anyone really care anymore what Karen Peetz and Rod Erickson have to say to Alumni Council or anyone else? Since that evening in early November 2011, the BOT and Rod Erickson have been epic failures at managing the dialogue on the Sandusky scandal, and defending our university until due process could be concluded. They all need to go, and once the Curley and Schultz trials conclude, they will find out just how much power the alumni do have over their positions. They are protected right now by outdated and cumbersome bylaws, but there are many other ways that the collective will of the alumni can make sure they understand that it would be a good idea to leave. Then the focus will turn on the NCAA.

  • 389. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    I planned on making a signficant contribution as support for whoever stepped in for Joe Paterno. However, that is on hold until Peetz and Erickson step-down from the Board. I will mail this contribution one minute after this occurs. I’ve never seen such mis-management and won’t allow any contribution to be controlled by people with such poor leadership skills. Things are less transparent than ever.

  • 390. Kathy Callahan  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    1.) What, exactly, is the ‘other’ view of this? There is NO ‘other’ view in all these nearly 400 comments. 2.) I have been waiting since July to hear more about this dastardly ‘football culture.’ What is it you, Karen Peetz, see that needs to ‘turn around’ that the rest of us don’t see? 3.) I will defend Penn State and Joe Paterno to my dying day. But there will ALWAYS be an asterisk in my praise….*except for those on the Board of Trustees on 11/9/11 and the egregious decisions which ripped apart PSU in less than a week, and ‘moved on’ to destroy PSU in less than a year! 4.) The booing in the stadium reflected the MAJORITY. 5.) Fix all this by RESIGNING!

  • 391. LaurenR  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Given that the Curley and Schultz trials are a necessary step toward determining ANY culpability by the University, and, logically, the University has requested to delay the lawsuit by Mike McQueary until after they have concluded, why are representatives of the University having discussions and negotiations with any Sandusky victims? The issue of PSU culpability is directly tied to whether University officials (therefore, the University) acted in a manner so as to cause Sandusky to continue to be in the community (rather than in prison), where he could continue to access and associate with vulnerable children through the auspices of the Second Mile Charity?

  • 392. S Hughes  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    As we near the anniversary of the infamous 10 pm announcement of the BoT to fire Joe Paterno without giving him a chance to share his side of the story, we are already beginning to see reporters jumping on the PSU cash train. Sports Illustrated’s cover https://twitter.com/SInow/status/263330137137893376/photo/1.
    Who assigned collective guilt to the university before all trials were complete?

  • 393. JasNash'74  |  October 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    The inept leadership displayed by the BOT throughout this entire ordeal has tarnished the Penn State image for years to come. Only new leadership can start to turn this ship around. The current group in power must go and be replaced by individuals who TRUELY place Penn State’s interests first.

  • 394. Kenneth Spaid  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    It is clear Ms. Peetz, President Erickson and the entire BoT is completely out of touch with the alumni. The events of the past year have exposed a serious flaw in the way the BoT is structured. The current members are not accountable to the people they should be speaking for. They follow their own agenda and dismiss anyone who does not support them. The majority of the members should be democratically elected by alumni, faculty and students. The government appointess should be eliminated or at least made a minority of the board. The AA and all alumni should press for these changes to be made. We must take our university back from these people.

  • 395. Dick Crestood  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    BOYCOTT

    http://www.psu.edu/trustees/membership.html

  • 396. Paul S.  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    I couldn’t agree more with the many well stated comments above. The leadership (legacy BOT members, Erickson) at our great university has failed us and is either unable or unwilling to appropriately address our concerns.

    As noted in posts #366 and #368, above, please forward a link to this thread to:

    https://www.bnymellon.com/contact/index.cfm

    Also, please forward a link to your PA state legislators. Post #220 is correct, we must get our legislators involved to support and push this issue. You may find the appropriate information here:

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/findyourlegislator/#address

    Peetz (and the others) may continue to reject the calls to resign from our “small group” who are unable to “move on,” but applying pressure in the right places will get the attention – and action – these issues deserve.

    Fight on State!

  • 397. Lindsay B  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    The 11/9/11 members of the Penn State Board of Trustees must resign and resign promptly. They have not acted in the best interest of the university, its students, alumni and faculty. In fact, their actions and inactions have allowed the university’s reputation to be slandered and maligned in the court of public opinion. I have been told that my two degrees from The Pennsylvania State University are worthless now and I blame you BOT, for your lack of leadership, your rash acceptance of the ineffectual Freeh report and your inability to take a stand and protect the Penn State name. Hand in your resignations, effective immediately, and allow those who will put Penn State first to take your seat. No one is ‘moving on’ until you move out.

  • 398. DCB  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Ongoing evaluation of any “culture”, be it business or academic, is very important. But serious self-study cannot be done when one is wearing blinders. As long as the current Board of Trustees is in place AND refuses to critically examine its own behavior during the past year, the so-called culture will never be changed.

    This is a Board of Trustees that is unrivaled in its ability to point fingers at anyone other than themselves. Ss long as they continue to defend themselves by saying “We had to do X but we can’t tell you why” they will be viewed with disdain. they have lost the privilege to lead this University.

    The proper name for this group is the Board of Arrogance.

  • 399. John C PSU '76  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Rodney Erickson, Karen Peetz, BOT: Stop groveling!

    All that’s been proved so far is that a former employee committed a series of crimes on university property over a period of time. Gene Marsh, you should be ashamed of yourself: Rodney had the authority to sign the consent decree because the NCAA says he does? – you’ve gotta be kidding me! Suppose the NCAA demanded $600 million instead of $60 million? Suppose they demanded $6 billion – what then?

    As for fixing Penn State’s culture: Don’t fix what isn’t broken. Success with Honor worked, and it continues to work. Our athletes succeed on the field and in in the classroom. Our graduation rates and winning percentages are equally stellar.

    Rodney Erickson, Karen Peetz, BOT: Skip the excuses. Legal minds agree: The NCAA had no authority to act, you threw all of us under the bus. Start standing up for the 99.99+% of Penn Staters who had nothing to do with this sordid mess.

  • 400. Betsy Flanagan  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    The lack of foresight and leadership of the 2011BOT continues to haunt the true Nittany Nation. The only credible action is the immediate resignations of said BOT so that we who care about Penn State can pick up the pieces and restore our great name. The leaders at Penn State are the students, football players who stayed, community, and alumni dedicated to the truth and due process. It is time for Ms. Peetz and company to “move forward” and get off our campus.

  • 401. Robert Nace  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Having read both the interview with Karen Peetz in the Penn Stater and the article about Peetz’s and Erickson’s meeting with the Alumni Council, I would like to say two things.

    First, I believe Karen Peetz knows exactly what she is doing. No one rises to the levels of corporate life that she has achieved without developing superb gunslinging skills. It is understood that these skills, she would say in the abstract, are used for the benefit of the corporation or to serve the institution. But anyone familiar with corporate life knows that in the concrete there are fiefdoms, power centers, bosses. Sometimes bosses’ interests align neatly with the corporation’s, but sometimes they align more closely to their personal power and success. So, Pistol Peetz has brought her considerable gunslinging skills to Penn State. The question is whom does she serve, who is her master, who is her boss.

    Secondly, I follow with ever-present hope the discussions, events, analyses, press releases, etc. relating to the Penn State ‘scandal.’ Countless voices have been raised, trenchant analyses have been written, direct questions have been asked of the BoT, waves of anger have risen. Yet nothing changes. Peetz and the Board are not changing their strategy. While appearing to listen, they are not hearing. From a perspective regarding the power and influence of PS4RS and like-minded people, it would appear that Peetz and company feel secure in the knowledge that we can only beg their attention and approval. (By the way, given Peetz’ severe hairstyle, I suspect she really likes to see us beg. Don’t you?) So, for me the issue has become a question of when do we stop begging. What other recourse do we have besides a belief in the good will and sense of fair play of the Board. ( I think they — cynically and manipulatively– rely on our continuing to believe that by endlessly appealing to good will, rationality, and a sense of fairness we might change the course the Board is taking. We are deluded. They can continue to obfuscate and plow ahead forever. I know of no check or balance to the power of the BoT. Even politicians can be impeached, but it appears the BoT governs ultimately by divine right. Does anyone know of any recourse available to us? Are their legal avenues to pursue? Are there tactical avenues to pursue?

    My major hope until now has been that the Shultz/Curley trial will bring everything out into the open, provide due process, and reveal the truth (which Joe asked us to seek). What will happen then? Can the BoT and the NCAA be bound in any way to take into account the information revealed in the trial? I sincerely wish to get some responses/answers to these questions, because I, like many others, am tired of begging.

  • 402. B.Updegrove  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    If we are a disgruntled few, how is it that I have not met anyone (non alumni included) who believes that the BOT acted in the best interest of PSU? The board members have damaged our university and continue with their elitist views that there were difficult decisions to be made that the rest of the alumni wouldn’t understand. I think the education that most of us acquired, despite the imaginary ‘football culture’ at Penn State, give us the knowledge to read reports and make decisions. Maybe the problem is the board’s lack of integrity. Please RESIGN.

  • 403. Anonymous, '79  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    In the annals of higher education, has there ever been a more poorly managed situation than this? If Ms. Peetz dealt with a BONY-Mellon situation like this, would she still be employed? Of course not. The same standard for performance that BONY-Mellon uses should be used here at Penn State. Ms. Peetz and her band of inept followers, (and due to their silence on this matter, I mean ALL of them), must go immediately. Shame on her for selling the university down the river. Shame on Mr. Surma for allowing his personal emnity towards Joe Paterno to rule his emotions in dealing with this issue. Shame on the executive members of the BOT who merely want to stonewall, all the while preaching about the new transparency. Do they think we, who were educated at this great university, are so stupid as to not see what they are doing?

    We need a bright light to shine on this terrible situation. We need an explanation for why our governor was allowed to personally influence decisions regarding a university that he clearly has no use for. We need an explanation for why the governor dragged his feet for so many years on the Sandusky investigation, and then had the gall to announce to the world that Joe Paterno had moral failings over this issue. We need an explanation for why Second Mile gets off scot-free, with no investigation whatsoever, and how this could relate to the money that organization’s board members gave to Mr. Corbett’s campaign.

    The BOT needs to know that this issue is not going away. We will not be silent. We will not donate to the university until this is all resolved. We will not allow innocent men to be tarred and feathered while others are apparently protected.

    Mr Noonan, the Corbett lackey, was right when he suggested that there were moral failings in this situation, but he was wrong about who were the people who failed. He and his boss need to look in the mirror. I assure you, the alumni are not at all confused about where the failures occurred.

  • 404. Keith Bocchicchio  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    PSU Board of trustees:

    It is safe to say that all Penn State Alumni and citizens of Pennsylvania are sympathetic to Jerry Sandusky’s victims; and that whomever is responsible for the tragedies they endured should pay the price for failing in their duties to protect them. However, we as citizens of the Commonwealth and of the United States of America must respect the fundamental concept of due process. We must have the patience and resolve to allow all of the facts to be uncovered, as difficult as they may be to understand or accept, before we reach an ultimate conclusion regarding the University’s role in the Sandusky crimes. It is with these thoughts in mind that I urge the Board of Trustees not to act in haste (yet again), but rather to allow the judicial process to take its course before addressing possible victim settlement claims against Penn State. I respectfully implore the Trustees to examine their own “culture” and act responsibly and in the best interests of the alumni and citizens of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Judicial conclusion must be reached in the upcoming trials of Penn State officials Tim Curley and Gary Schultz. Only then will the clarity be obtained that is needed to address the victims’ claims.

    In terrms of “moving on”, this is overwelmingly the recommendation that has been expressed by the alumni with respect to the majority of the current BOT membership. This is the only “culture” that needs to change.

  • 405. Joe Ciccarella  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    BOT please take responsiblity and clean house. Due process……please. Where was Joe Paterno’s and PSU’s due process. You people live in a bubble. The whole country is laughing at us alumns and esp at you as members of the BOT.

  • 406. bigd1992  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    BNY Mellon’s annual shareholder meeting will likely be in April. We need to have a large turnout of PSU alumni to picket outside the meeting and let the shareholders know what kind of leadership they have with Karen Peetz.

  • 407. Christine M Junker  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    I just received my President’s Report on Philanthropy and Endowments in the mail and promptly trashed it. But I have a suggestion. All who have donated and receive the publication should return it unopened, and marked “BOTs and President Erickson must resign to receive my further support.”

  • 408. Joe - Che '95  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Accreditation put on probation, football erroneously blamed and severely penalized, donations down, applications down (including apparently the higher ranked applicants which Peetz conveniently does not mention), well over nine figures worth of fines and other costs, etc., etc. If these BOT members ran their business units the way they run this great university, they would be sued by their investors. But hey, it’s not their money. Sadly, this great debacle will be studied for years and years in management classes about how not to respond to a crisis.

  • 409. Caroline Dixon '90  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Peetz & Erickson RESIGN NOW! WE ALL deserve better than you. 409 FOREVER!

  • 410. Doug Hahm  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    In my non-scientific polls, roughly 97% of people with some connection to PSU (alums, fans, etc) would like to honor what Joe Paterno did for the university over his 60 years of service. Evidently, Mr. Erickson believes that continuing to appease the remaining 3% while angering the 97% will avoid further dividing the university. Clearly, Mr. Erickson does not have a math background.

  • 411. SgtCarter  |  October 30, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Peetz, Erickson, Surma and their lackeys don’t give a damn about the alumni or the university. Until we get these arrogant and selfish people out there will be no real progress.

  • 412. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    We should now focus on starting the next round of investigations into the people, companies and organizations associated with Sandusky, the BOT and the Second Mile.

    Stop arguing JP did nothing wrong. He was and will always be a great coach who personally created a great culture and who should have made sure the authorities were called many years ago. This failure gave the BOT, NCAA and public at large the reason to target him.

    We can not and will never un-do the Freeh Report, NCAA bunglings, due process failure, etc. Continuing to harp on these allows the BOT, politicians and law enforcement to use these issues as distractions and to keep JP, football and our culture in the center of this scandal.

  • 413. alum63  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Mrs. Peetz,
    You can’t name one specific example of a culture of corruption between the PSU football program and alumni because there is none. The idea you and the executive Board could not defend a man that used his power and influence to network with alumni with the sole purpose of raising funds in order to raise academic standing is repulsive to me. This is what I know from experience and it is not possible for Mr Freeh to change my opinion because I have lived it. Knowing the truth, I will never understand how you could have accepted those sanctions based on false pretenses (Freeh Report).
    Dr Erickson may have many strengths but negotiating is not one of them. He failed us miserably. I listened to the telephone meeting where the BOT supported him like sheep following a crooked shepard. He has assumed PSU guilty instead of fighting for the truth and defending our culture.
    I can’t move forward until you and the executive committee members of the BOT are gone and we can have a BOT that honors our successful leaders, Paterno and Spanier.

  • 414. Monica BAE '85  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Dear Anonymous 412. JVP did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do.
    What I learned this year: in PA , this applies not only to children but also those over 60.

    What I must not do after reporting:
    1-Post suspicions on social media (Facebook)
    2-Advise anyone, including my family or suspected victim’s family.
    …3-investigate – “Leave that to the authorities”
    4-Tell co-workers outside chain of command.
    5-NEVER question suspected victim or perpetrator or hint an investigation is ongoing. This can tip-off a perpetrator and make it more difficult to investigate.
    6-Do not follow up on investigation. “Don’t call us; we will call you if needed”.

    “These guidelines are designed to ensure investigations are not unintentionally compromised. Good intentions can actually do more harm than good.”

  • 415. John  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Let’s get rid of the two of them. They do not represent Penn State nor it alumni.

  • 416. John Young  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Just more of the smokescreen we’ve been getting from the BOT for the last year. Did anyone really think that publishing these non-answers to supposed questions would help gain back the support of the alumni? It’s just more evidence of their incompetence. We need a new set of Trustees that will begin correcting the errors of the old BOT. They clearly don’t intend to do it themselves.

  • 417. Gary  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Karen Peetz, you say there’s more to come in terms of due process. You say you will evalulate next steps after the Curley/Shultz trials.

    Here’s an idea – from day one, you and the board should have embraced due process, and that people are innocent until proven guilty. Rather than following this line of thought, a cardinal and foundational principal of our society, you and the BOT destroyed the reputation of several people. Why not wait for truths to be known? Why pay Freeh to conduct a private report that will pale in comparison to federal investigations?

    Don’t you want to see what happens in future trials before proclaiming cultural issues at PSU? How can you say there’s a cultural issue if you don’t know the complete truth, as of yet?

    I have nothing postive to say about how you and the BOT handled all of this.

  • 418. Scott  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    It was stated, and I’m paraphrasing here – We take full responsibility…..
    Then ‘accountability’ was systemmatically and solely assigned to the football team.
    Words don’t convey ‘responsibility’ – actions do.
    If you are taking full responsibility then you should realize that all good leaders recognize when they have lost the ability to lead and step down.
    Scott

  • 419. Mark '87  |  October 30, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Dear Monica BAE, I’m Anonymous 412.

    Not sure what rules you are quoting, but #6 is not right. JVP did exactly what he was supposed to do as an ordinary person. As our leader, he should have done more and ensured the authorities were called. I expect more from our leaders than the legal minimum. Prior to this scandal, had someone asked you what Joe would do if he heard a monster was lurking around PSU, wouldn’t you have said Joe would have make sure the perp was stopped? In his final interview, Joe himself said “In hindsight, I wish I had done more.”

    But all this takes to focus back to JVP and our culture, which is not the true cause. We should stow these justifiable outrages and focus attention only on the BOT, Second Mile and Sandusky’s enablers.

  • 420. John Bonner  |  October 30, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Karen

    You have done the exact opposite of what JVP said he wanted to be remembered for (Leaving Penn State a Better Place ). You need to go before you do any more damage. For the Glory of Penn State please resign immediately.

  • 421. Michelle Leonard  |  October 30, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    His ACTUAL quote was “With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more”. Well duh! All of us “with the benefit of hindsight” could wish we had done more at various times in our life. Bottom line, based solely on what he knew AT THE TIME, it is actual remarkable (based on the fact Sandusky was considered such an upstanding citizen- just ask Santorium, President Bush, and the damn high school principal) that Joe Pa made sure that Shultz and Curley even took McQuery’s report. Joe Pa did what a leader ALWAYS does- relies on people with expertise to handle matters within their field. The problem that PA/society needs to focus on is the breakdown in the system- police, CYS, DPW, etc.- in place that failed.

  • 422. renee arment  |  October 30, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    The only words I want to hear out of your mouth Peetz is: “I’m resigning, are ya happy now?” Heck yea, we’d be ecstatic!! We’d be dancing in the streets, please just take the rest of your cronies with you!!

  • 423. Bernard Gasper, '85  |  October 30, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Can’t Peetz, Erickson and the rest of this cabal do the honorable thing and resign already? Their evasions and digressions are despicable. They had a fiduciary duty to defend the University, not to submit to the NCAA’s grandstanding.

  • 424. Jeff Roby  |  October 30, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    I’ve read most of these replies and haven’t seen this point yet. Pretty much the same BOT that has bungled the Second Mile scandal will be selecting the next University President! That is terrifying.

    Would anyone care to wager that he or she will be focused on trying to get at the truth rather than “movin’ on”?

  • 425. Ted Koncsol  |  October 30, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Due process was not granted to Paterno, the football team, the University itself. The board allowed the knee jerk reactions of the media to sway them when Joe was fired. They allowed an obviously incomplete report, written to justify themselves, to crush the football program. (Thank God for OBrien)
    There is NOTHING wrong with the “culture” of Penn State. It is not a cult as some have demonized it. It is good people trying to do good things. Research, defeating cancer, making better people, leaders, and oh yeah, turning young men into great men, not just football players.
    I don’t believe the fans, athletes, students and alumni EVER lost the culture. The board did to advance and protect their self serving selves.

  • 426. Carole Vail  |  October 30, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    #412 aka Anonymous, aka Mr. Peetz. What more should Joe have done? If you are talking about 1998, maybe you think he should have ignored the police and the DA and become Colombo. If you are talking about the shower incident, Joe reported it to his boss as per university regs. and extricated himself from an ongoing investigation as he was bound to by law.Get your facts straight.

  • 427. William, class of '78  |  October 30, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    It is time for the BOT to step up to the plate, resign and really begin the process of moving forward. It is also time to elect Kathryn Kane for attorney general. As a life long republican, I have never been a person who pushed my political beliefs on anyone, but a “real” investigation of the Second Mile, a review of why the attorney general waited so long to go after a pedophile, and find out if money and political contributions had anything to do with this slowplay to bring Sandusky to justice.

  • 428. wlevinson  |  October 30, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    Re: #412

    I see that one of the few, or perhaps the only, comment in the Trustees’ favor is anonymous. Those who have condemned the Trustees, Erickson, and the NCAA have (mostly) signed their real names.

    Q: Why did the Pharaoh of Egypt get ten plagues, the last of which killed every first-born male in his country, while Penn State got Karen Peetz, John Surma, Keith Eckel, Steve Garban, Rodney Erickson, and the rest of the Trustees who were in office on 11/9?

    A: The Pharaoh had the first choice.

    The Plagues of the Board of Untrustworthies:

    (1) Turned the Sandusky scandal into the Penn State scandal on 11/9, thus destroying the University’s reputation.

    (2) Got Penn State’s academic accreditation put on probation even though PSU is the academic equal of any Ivy League school.

    (3) Cost Joe Paterno his Medal of Freedom, which would of course reflected well on Penn State.

    (4) Cost Joe Paterno his place on the Stagg Trophy.

    (5) Brought down the NCAA’s illegitimate sanctions, including what I regard as theft (or at least dishonest taking) of $60 million of Penn State’s money.

    (6) Brought down the NCAA’s illegitimate sanctions in the form of removal of more than 100 fairly-earned victories by the Nittany Lions.

    (7) Squandered another $10 million or more on public relations firms (e.g. Lanny Davis) and the Fact-Freeh Report.

    (8) Robo-signed the Freeh Report’s findings of guilt against identifiable Penn State administrators and then, in the case of Karen Peetz, lied about doing it (Nov/Dec Penn Stater). This further damaged Penn State’s reputation.

    (9) Did an enormous injustice not only to Coach Paterno but also to his family.

    (10) Destroyed their own credibility and left Penn State effectively leaderless, because nobody will follow somebody they cannot trust or even believe.

    (11) Recently created a settlement program for Jerry Sandusky’s victims even though Penn State was never proven to have had any role in their injuries.

    That’s eleven plagues right there, and I am sure other alumni can add even more that I cannot remember offhand.

    William A. Levinson, B.S. ’78

  • 429. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Peetz and Ercikson won’t stand up for Penn State, and clearly do not care about due process, just opinion polls. I am embarrassses that they are associated with my alma mater. I wish they’d resign. And leave the country.

  • 430. Anne '98  |  October 30, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Mr. Erickson, Ms. Peetz, and 11/09/2011 BoT members:

    You lost our confidence in your leadership abilities when this story broke on November 4, 2011. Soon after, it became clear that you did not ask the questions you should have and were nowhere near as diligent as you should have been when this whole Sandusky matter was brought to your attention in February 2011. For years, you have merely rubber-stamped action items on your agenda, and basked in the perks of your positions and the prestige it brought to your resumes. That it apparently came at the expense of children suffering is appalling and inexcusable (note: I am a survivor of child abuse myself).

    Acting big and tough with ‘moving on’ now will never erase your leadership failure from (at best) February 2011 or from (at worst) 1998. Many alumni are very capable of separating Board of Trustees culture from university-at-large culture. That you would try to conflate the two, and then blame the alumni for being disgruntled is cowardly…but it is in line with every other mis-step you have taken since February 2011. Those who are calling for your resignations correctly see that you can NEVER recover from your failures committed in a dysfunctional Board of Trustees culture…you will NEVER earn our trust back. What you have done since November 4, 2011, merely confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are not worthy of being leaders, especially leaders of our alma mater.

    As many of my fellow alumni have stated previously, we will move on when a full AND impartial investigation of everyone (including all of you) involved is done. Freeh didn’t investigate you because you paid him not to do that — so as of today that investigation has yet to be done/reported. The nation’s space program didn’t move on until full investigations of the Apollo, Challenger and Columbia accidents were completed. They gave unfavorable reviews of NASA, and the lessons learned were painful. We alumni are all too aware that we may not like what we hear, but we are mature and highly educated Penn Staters who know when we have been failed. You have all failed us — please resign so that we can rebuild a stronger Penn State without you, using the lessons we have learned from the past horrifying year.

  • 431. Rob Trotter  |  October 30, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Another blatant example of Peetz, Erickson and the legacy BOT just not getting it There will be no moving on or ONE TEAM until the BOT and President stop apologizing and acting like there is or ever has been something wrong w/ the Penn State Culture. The culture at Penn State is fine outside the one inside the PSU BOT and President’s office. It’s time they honor their fiduciary duty and defend the honor and traditions of Penn State including the legacy of Joe Paterno or step aside and let us elect some people who will.

  • 432. JC  |  October 30, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    I believe we give Erickson and Peetz too much credit. They didn’t screw this up on their own. They had help from many cowards on the board (two former football players come to mind) who didn’t have the courage to challenge Surma and others who made some terrible decisions that awful night they fired Joepa at 10:00 at night.

  • 433. B.A.M c/o 1997  |  October 30, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Suggest that Peetz, Erickson, and the rest of the BOT acknowledge the henious and irresponsible nature with which they’ve handled events post 11/9/11 and resign immediately. I am willing to afford them due process, a concept they seem to be unfamiliar with, in the hopes that they too will see how their selfish and misguided acts have led to a near irrepairable situation with the financial, educational, and moral reputation of our great university.

    This is not, and has never been, a ‘football’ issue. How shameful.

  • 434. Matt  |  October 30, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    Peetz and Erickson make me sick. You allowed the media to run wild from the beginning. Transparency? Please provide information on selecting Freeh, engagement letter, and all updates from Freeh from the beginning. Was he clearly biased from the beginning??? Would you allow your company to issue a document publicly without you seeing it first, oh these were very difficult circumstances…so it makes all of your mistakes okay. You screwed up and continue to do so! Please resign.

  • 435. Dan M  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    Karen Peetz believes it is good to examine our culture at PSU. I agree, self reflection is important and can be enlightening. PSU alums are not uncomfortable with self examination, we are upset by a blatently false characterization of the PSU culture. If the board accepts Freeh’s characterization as accurate then I submit the board has little understanding of PSU culture and needs to step aside. If the board has legitimate issues with the PSU culture they have a responsibility to explain what the issues are and what they wish to change about the culture.

    Regarding divisiveness, the behavior of the board has been devisive from the onset of these events. The boards behavior shows a complete disregard of Penn State values such as loyalty and commitment to family. Many board members knew Joe Paterno as a champion of education and of the University (not the football program) yet the board deliberately chose to walk away from all the good he and his family did for PSU. That shows that the board has no integrity or committment to PS values.

    Finally, regarding “tolerance”. Until the board fights for due process for Penn State and for the Paterno family we will show the board and President Erickson as much “tolerance” as they have shown to Joe and the PSU culture.

  • 436. Niki Forrest  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    They remain clueless, If not clueless, then evil slimey scumbuckets.

  • 437. Steven  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    The BOT’s lack of preparedness (specifically Surma’s, Garban’s, and Broadhurst’s lack of action when they were informed by Spanier), the a priori acceptance of the Freeh Report, the lack of defense offered regarding unfounded charges against the exemplary blend of academics and athletics, and the non-response to the NCAA represent some of the reasons the BOT members in place last November owe the entire Penn State community an apology.

  • 438. fairgambit  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    It is Penn State’s great misfortune that in her time of greatest crisis, she had the worst possible leadership. President Erickson, Chairwoman Peetz, remaining members of the November BOT, your incompetent handling of this crisis has created a permanent stain on this University that will linger for generations. Please act responsibly and resign immediately.

  • 439. N.P.G c/o 2005  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    Like many others that have commented, I am sad, angry, and disappointed in the lack of leadership shown by my university. To put it simply, Supporting Penn State and Penn Staters (including Joe Paterno, Tim Curley, and Gary Schultz) does not mean you support Child Rape or Abuse. However, apologizing at every turn for a cover up that has yet to be proven, or failure to act, based on opinion of those trying to sell newspapers tells the world that Penn State did support the abuse of children or that this is a Penn State Scandal instead of simply the Sandusky Scandal. How can you throw a dead man along with all of your current students and alums under a bus like that and then expect us to “move on”? The decisions that have been made in the last year will fill books with examples of what not to do in a crisis situation. Moving on is not a path forward, it is a cowards way out and totally unacceptable to me and the thousands like me. I will not even begin to comment on the so-called “culture” issues.

    With that said, I cannot imagine being in President Erickson’s shoes right now, he has had a very hard job to do and I do not think anyone thinks he has had to make any easy decisions. I still think that President Erickson and the BOT have the opportunity to right the ship by allowing our justice system to work, something that should have been done in the beginning, and by starting to fight for Penn State. Personally, I would like to see by a proper investigation that talks to all of those that were involved and the shredding of the Freeh Fiction that started the media firestorm. If they cannot do that, their services are no longer needed or wanted.

  • 440. RRK  |  October 30, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Peetz and Erickson are out of touch and out of their depth. I have a hard time determining if it it simple incompetence or something more malign such as self interest, but either way Erickson and the BoT have to go.

    One cannot truly begin to heal until one faces and accepts the truth, and the truth will never be known with these people clinging to power.

    One cannot hope to ever prevent another scandal unless they are able to recognize where the true failures occurred and this requires a degree of introspection that these people have proven to be quite deficient in.

    If Peetz performed her job with the same lack of acumen as she has her position on the BoT she would be removed without a second thought.

    And is Erickson truly suggesting that PSU applications dropped 10-35% in ONE YEAR as a result of loans or the lack of economic development in Pennsylvania with no regard to applications in the previous years since the recession? What changed between 2011 and 2012? Did the recession suddenly appear in Pennsylvania in 2012? The only thing more outrageous than this assertion is the notion that Erickson would seriously expect people to accept this explanation.

    The only way I’ll ever donate to the university is if these people MOVE ON.

  • 441. M. Bennett  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    The BOT needs to review the freeh report. The second mile needs to be investigated. What is the relationship between the majority of the BOT and the second mile?

    Why did gov corbett allow grant monies to go to the second mile when he knew what he knew about sandusky? why didnt corbett, as AG decide to go after sandusky a lot sooner?

    why did corbett go to the BOT and demand they fire JoPa, saying “just think about the kid in the shower” before the vote. Btw, didnt that victim come out and say no abuse happened that night? What are the majority of BOT covering up by telling us to move on? What information do they not want everyone to know?

    Give US the TRUTH.

  • 442. Photoyogi  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    Good Point. Donations stop until the old BOT resigns or is removed.

  • 443. John Bortner '78  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    We didn’t know the outcome of the Shultz, Curley, or even the Sandusky trial when the BoT & Dr Erickson made numerous, significant changes in policy like the: comissioning of the Freeh report, firing of Paterno, removal of the the Paterno statue, complete acceptance of the Freeh report, acceptance of the NCAA pentalties etc. Yet now, when considering a tribute to Paterno we need to wait for these trials to play out — what all of a sudden has changed, I’d say nothing.

    It is time to let the alumni vote on a larger number of BOT members so we can voice out collective opinion as to who can & should be running this institution.

    If the negative voices are few, & most want to “move on” as the BOT & Dr Erickson would like us to believe the incumbentants should easily be able to maintian their positions of power. If not than the silient majority will have spoken.

  • 444. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    I have yet to talk to one Penn Stater that thinks the BOT or Erickson has done the right thing since this whole affair started. That does not mean that we think everybody is innocent and that nothing was done wrong. It means that due process should be afforded those accused before penalties are levied and sanctions accepted. Maybe Erickson and the BOT should stop in American History 101 and audit the class on the Constitution.

  • 445. RJ  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Peetz and the BOT said they accepted responsibility after Freeh was released but it was empty words. If you truly accepted responsibility then you would accept the associated consequences and resign. They want no consequences for themselves (but of course they will hold them to everyone else). Since then they have silenced any opposition (the 3 minutes on your prescreened question are up) and have ignored the vast majority of alumni. I think they actually believed everyone had “moved on” until Saturday night when the alumni and fans made their opinion very clear by booing Erickson. The November BOT needs to resign.

  • 446. Dan  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    I would really like to know what Alumni support the BOT and Erickson? The events of Saturday (booing) clearly show we are NOT behind them. The only reason we would get behind them is to push them out the door!!

  • 447. Paul ingram '88 Eng.  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Karen Peetz makes my blood boil! And so does Rodney Erickson! How could anyone with a brain accept anything they say. The continually lie about everything! It still boogles my mind that they will not do an offical review of the Freeh Report!

    To have them as the face of Penn State makes me sick to my stomach. My University apparently doesn’t have a backbone and is willing to continue on with this rediculous campaign of “move on”.

    They are the ones that need to move on!

  • 448. Jeff Grimm  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    I wanted to bring to the front of this ongoing forum something that I have only seen one other comment address, and which i believe is extremely important for everyone reading these comments to realize. The “Alumni Association” as they like to call themselves, unfortunately does NOT actually represent the “largest group of active alumni in the country” as they boast for their own organizational well being.

    The day after the firing of Joe Paterno, they had a statement on their web page which stated that they fully supported and agreed with the actions of the BOT of the previous night. I was outraged and immediately terminated my wife and my 30 year life-time membership in this group.

    As I discussed this with other Alumni, I was surprised at the time that hardly anyone knew that this so called “Association” did “not take sides” by making such an “unbiased” statement. I encouraged them, and everyone I could e-mail, to check it our for themselves. Those who immediately did, saw it and were, as I was, shocked and aghast. Interestingly, that statement disappeared from the site not too much time later.

    It appears that the “Alumni Association” is in fact nothing more than yet another semi-official arm of the PSU Administration and the BOT. How sickening is THIS revelation? Their handling of the PR end of the disgusting BOT/Rodney Erickson show as evidenced in this latest article should be more than enough to convince one of the accuracy of this statement. If not, call them yourselves and ask them and see if you will get the truth. And if you do, ask them WHY they made such a statement.

    I do not know how the employees of the “Alumni Association” are paid, but I would not be surprised at all if there is some University money involved. If not, and they are paid solely by alumni contributions, then as many others here have suggested, I have stopped any and all donations to the University for ANYTHING until the BOT members 0f 11/9/2011 RESIGN, along with their shills Ericskon and Joyner, IMMEDIATELY. For these kind of people, only money (and a close second, enrollment) talks.

    So PLEASE, if you really want justice, you need to start to put pressure on every part of the University that has had a part in all of this injustice. STOP your membership in the “official” alumni association and instead join the growing ranks of an unaffiliated organization like PS4RS. You don’t have to be a member of a traitorous group like the Penn State official “Alumni Association” to be a proud alum or alumna of the University we all love and cherish (-ed?).

    I used to try to convince as many kids as I could to attend Penn State, but no more. The University is not the same one that I went to, and is not one that I would encourage ANYONE to send their children to until these people are ALL gone.

    God bless Joseph Vincent Paterno and his family and all they have stood for over six decades of Penn State. They have helped to make me who I am and have positively influenced three generations of my family.

    Jeff Grimm, ’82
    Martha Grimm, ’82
    Mike Grimm, ’10
    Robert Grimm, ’59

  • 449. Doug  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    boy, do we look like fools or what? After Erickson concented to the Freeh report, how could the university possibly back peddle? I’m sure there was a ton of pressure as Emmert was trying to make a name for himself, but Rod should have bounced this off the entire board, not just the executive team of the BOT. For this reason alone, Rod and the rest of this exec committee should step down immediately.

    it’s quite obvious now, the Freeh report (and Freeh) are tainted and the NCAA based 99% of their sanctions on Freeh’s findings and the rediculous assumptions that were made. My question is…..after Curley and Schultz have their day in court, and if they prove there wasn’t a cover up, how will the university react? At that point, will it be time for the majority of the BOT to step down? How will you honor Joe after you trashed the very person who did so much for the university? How will you restore our Penn State name after you have succumbed to the pressure of media and make us all look like cowards? How many people and e-mails will it take for you to understand that the alumni are pissed, and that this problem isn’t going to go away? So many questions, with very little direction or leadership from the BOT.

  • 450. Vickie Fleisher-Gann  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Karen and Rodney…Do you mean to tell me both of you are still being Surma and Frazier’s puppets?…When are you going to come to your senses?…smh…

  • 451. LealandLoyal '83  |  October 30, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Karen: Your high-priced New York public relations consulting firm Edelman is failing you miserably. Every time you or Erickson open your mouths, you just make the situation worse, and you look more ridiculous. You have no clothes on, Emperess. Your chummy Mellon-linked law firm Reed Smith has failed you too, just like Lanny Davis did. The saddest aspect is the millions of $$ your inadequacies have cost our beloved PSU. Please resign, go back to your Brooklyn Heights mansion and the opera. Only Corbett, his lackeys, Frazier and Surma support you now. Just go. Please.

  • 452. J. Stultz  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    It is ridiculous that they refuse to review Freeh but will implement all the recommendations in the report. Even Ms. Peetz said she was only concerned about the recommendations section and ignored the rest of the report. Are you kidding us? Do that in the real world at BONY- Mellon and you’ll be fired.

    Erickson has a real choice to make here. He has gone along with the BOT so far but he will retire in a year anyway. He has to decide how he wants to be remembered as a PSU president. Will he be seen years from now as the spineless lackey who didn’t fight back when blackmailed by the NCAA or the president who finally came to his senses and fought for the university, it’s students, and alumni despite the BOT? So far he’s failing.

  • 453. Rick Reading  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    People in corporate America are so used to “spinning” a situation to their advantage, that they don’t even realize they are doing it. Case in point here. Peetz thinks she is sooooo much smarter than the rest of us that she keeps spewing this rediculous rhetoric. She thinks our heads screw on and off. There is so little ethics and integrity in politics and among the fortune 500. This is such a clear case. This smells as bad as any situation I’ve ever witnessed. Disgusting. There must be a much bigger cover up than what they insinuate.

  • 454. ShariC  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    The recommendation to examine Penn State’s culture is far more than a “big sticking point” for some Penn Staters. That recommendation was a controversial slap in the face. If you don’t get that Karen, then you are NOT Penn State. That recommendation doesn’t “cause discomfort”, it’s an insane conclusion made by an idiot who wouldn’t know the meaning of “success with honor” if it slapped him right smack dab in the face!

    That recommendation is far more than just “controversial” and certainly is not a “good thing”. Spin it any way you wish, Karen. That recommendation was part of a decision by one who I, and many, many others just like myself, view to be part of a conclusion by a moron who was paid $6.5 million to reach a “predetermined conclusion” by members of a Board who also would not know the meaning of “success with honor” if it slapped you in the proverbial face! Spin it, Karen, but no matter what you say, it was not meant to be taken in the “abstract”. Your idiot, Freeh, didn’t recognize “success with honor”. Penn Staters DO recognize it. If you don’t recognize it, then, again, you are NOT Penn State. Freeh said Penn State put “football first”. That is part of the “predetermined conclusion” which YOU paid him $6.5 million to reach, although the same was wholly unsupported by factual evidence.

    Penn State, with the previous “success with honor” culture is no more. That is YOUR doing, yours and your cohorts on the Board which have continually failed Penn State. YOU have turned a “world class institution” into a “JOKE”. I used to be proud to say that my daughter graduated from Penn State. YOU have made me ashamed. Thanks to the “small numbers of alumni” who are outraged at your idiot’s conclusions, I know that I will be proud once more.

    You and your cohorts on the Board are what is “unproductive at best, divisive at worst”. I read Rodney Erickson’s “reasons” and they, like you on the Board, are a JOKE. Gene Marsh, like Freeh, was hired by YOU and was undoubtedly instructed by his employer to say what his employer told him to say. Freeh, clearly, did not even review his own evidence, since his conclusions were unsupported by that evidence. Penn State was faced with a difficult decision. YOU on the Board turned that into a “catastrophe”. Now you are saying Erickson “consulted with the executive committee of the Board”, yet initially, that is NOT what you said. You have flip-flopped so much that you’re starting to look like one!

    You may get “understanding and tolerance” from council members, but you won’t get it from us in the public who know and understand the meaning of “success with honor”.

    I would add to what Greg Malone stated. You not only missed several opportunities to pay tribute to Coach Paterno. You slapped him in the face. On your own Penn State website, you honored all deceased staff members, with the exception of Joe Paterno. You didn’t even have the decency to list him as deceased, let alone to honor the man who made Penn State what it is today. That failure has demonstrated the very reason why we, who understand Joe’s concept, will never move on until the truth is revealed.

    Erickson, your hand-picked cronie from within the Board, thinks we need “some more time, time for reflection”. Let me add that “WE” true Penn Staters will never be “together” with you or Erickson. You have demonstrated your ineptitude repeatedly, to the detriment of Penn State. You have failed to defend Penn State against unproved allegations used to reach a “predetermined conclusion”. You have ignored the core principle of due process, except when it comes to your own failures.

    Applications for next year are down between 10 and 35 percent so far. That is YOUR doing. You can make all the excuses you want to make, but that drop is a direct result of the demonstrated ineptitude of you and your Board.

    YOU made this a Penn State scandal. YOU failed all Penn Staters. YOU failed all Pennsylvania residents, YOU failed the students. YOU failed the alumni. YOU failed the supporters. YOU should be ashamed and most importantly, YOU should resign. WE ARE Penn State. YOU ARE A DISGRACE.

  • 455. Tom B.  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Continuos Improvement in an organization – yes, that is very good, Our Board of Trustees and Administration however have had a continuos regression since the Second Mile scandal and Jerry Sandusy’s evil penetrated Penn State. Both organizations have failed to make good decisions in defense of, or beneficial to, our great University. “More to come” says Mrs. Peetz. Yes, more to come indeed. The truth is yet to come, but it will, as will your resignation. We could use the continuos improvement, not the wreckless degradation of our University by those entrusted to guide her.

  • 456. porcupinefisheats  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Karen Peetz and the rest of the Penn State Board of Trustees represent the absolute worst of our University.

    The Board is comprised of appointed, cronies who answer to nobody. The willingness of this Board to accept the findings of the Freeh report, and want no further investigation into it’s conclusions validity is a failure in fiduciary responsibility to act in the best interests of our University.

    This experience has destroyed my faith in the eithics of those NOW running Penn State University. Karen Peetz and her cronies bring only shame on our University & community.

    Karen – please leave. We do not want you or your fellow board members involved in ‘leading’ anymore.

  • 457. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    I have never seen people in position of leadership that are so out of touch. The Board of Trustees have the ultimate responsibility and accountability for oversight of our University. They had actionable information well in advance of the grand jury report yet failed to act. Nor did they prepare in any way to deal with the inevitable media onslaught. Their series of egregious decisions can only be interpreted as self serving.

    In hundreds of discussions with alumni and students, I have not met one person who supports the BOT Executive Committee. If the selection of the BOT leadership was a democratic process, they would be overwhelmingly voted out of office. If there was an impeachment process, they would be impeached. It is not until they resign that our University will be able to move on. Unfortunately this will not happen as I am sure that even if they read any of these comments they will rationalize the feedback as irrelevant from those “few that can’t move on”. They are so mistaken. History will ultimately reveal their character flaws and it is their legacy that will be tainted. For now, they must live with their conscience.

  • 458. Wayne '78  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    I do not want to sound redundent and I will not repeat all of the fine statements made by the individuals commenting on this article, but I felt it necessary to add one more alumni that is disappointed in the lack of leadership. Ms Peetz speaks of what would any business do and I can’t help but think that if she and her business would have been attacked the same way Penn State has she would fight to change the naritive. It is too bad she can’t step up and fight for Penn State.

  • 459. Michelle Murosky  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Once again the Board of Trustees offers a distraction from the real issues at hand. The continued focus on the “Penn State Culture” takes attention away from the “BoT Culture”. Will the BoT culture of reappointing themselves continue?

    Over the last year the Board has allowed for the continued destruction of the Penn State brand. Penn State is lacking real leaders that will fight for our school in a time of crisis.

    The spring of 2013 allows an opportunity to interject new leadership within the board of Trustees. The current members of the board have the opportunity to exit gracefully and allow for nine new leaders including:
    (3) Elected by the Alumni,
    (2) Appointed by the governor,
    (2) Elected from the Agricultural Societies
    (2) Representing Business & Industry.

    Will Alumni trustees Stephanie Deviney (2010 – 2013) and Paul Suhey (1998 – 2013) leave the board?

    Will Gubernatorial Ira Lubert (1997 – 2013) and Paul Sivis (2010 – 2013) leave the board?

    Will Agricultural Trustees Keith Eckel (2008-2013) and Samuel Hayes (2003 – 2013) leave the board?

    Will Karen Peetz (2010-2013) and John Surma (207-2013) leave the board?

    Will the current members of the board “Move On” just as they have asked alumni to “Move on”?

  • 460. Joe Fedorczak EE '68  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Initially the NCAA promoted the Freeh Report as justification for the severe sanctions levied on Penn State football. Now that the weaknesses of the Freeh Report are exposed, the NCAA claims justification is based on Penn State for “accepting” the Freeh Report which invited the NCAA to take the actions it did.

    Essentially, the NCAA is saying the sanctions were “self-inflicted” and confirms the opinion of this alumnus that the Board of Trustees was reckless and unwise when it provided the Freeh Report without review or qualification. The BoT has simply and utterly failed to act in the best interests of Penn State, squandering untold millions from our treasuries in the process.

  • 461. Matt Prisby  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    The 11/9/11 BoT is a classic example of the Peter Principle, you have risen to the level of their own incompetence. The problem is the Standing Orders and By-Laws do not have a recall or impeachment provision which is something that needs to be changed in the documents governing the operation of the BoT.This oversight is the only thing keeping you in your positions. Before you do any more damage to our University, the honorable thing for the 11/9/11 BoT members to do is resign, it may help you salvage what little is left of any favorable reputation you once had.

  • 462. Robert Veres  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Karen Peetz and BOT take note- it is undeniable that you are totally out of touch or engaged in a huge coverup simply by the overwhelming one sided response in this comment log. If you think it is unrepresentative, then hire a firm to conduct an independent survey. Whatever you do, please quit acting like you are governing in a manner representing the Alumni and University- it is simply insulting and if not being done intentionally against the Alumni- you must be simply clueless. The healing cannot begin until you admit there is a problem. Please consult Step #1 of any twelve step process.

  • 463. Sherri  |  October 30, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    As a PSU alumna, l am amazed at the incompetent handling of this whole scandal by the BoT. I read about the Sandusky charges months before the story broke in November 2011. Yet the BoT acted as a deer in the headlights. How were they not prepared? Then hiring Freeh (don’t get me started on that choice – I know, Corbett) . However, to have a detailed report released PUBLICLY before the BoT had a chance to review? Any person with a legal background would have pointed out what a horrible decision that was -it just threw fuel on the fire. Every decision the BoT has made has been horrendous. As others have pointed out, if they were in a real job, they would have been fired long ago…..How can those BoT members who were there in Nov.2011, in good conscience, stay in their positions? They FAILED at their jobs. They did not ask the questions and ensure that the Sandusky matter was handled properly. What were they actually doing? They have caused such enormous harm to our beloved university. For me, it is apparent that the “culture” of the senior administration and the BoT is what needs to be fixed. All those in their BoT positions as of Nov. 2011, need to RESIGN NOW.

  • 464. freyerpd  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Mindboggling incompetence by the PSU BoT. I have not been an outspoken advocate of anything my entire life – simply happy to live my life and not get particularly involved – but the PSU BoT and what they have done to my university has made me so furious, so enraged, that I cannot stay quiet any longer. I graduated from Penn State 20 years ago and I find now that I must come to her defense because the PSU BoT appears as if they are intentionally trying to destroy the university. If it takes another 20 years, I assure you, I will NOT move on until the damage caused by this inept board has been corrected.

  • 465. Mark Riccordella  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    In 50 years of living this is by far the most frustrating situation I’ve ever experienced. The absolute ignorance of this Board is surreal
    Why do they not understand that moving on from here is the equivalent of building a new house on a foundation of lies
    No alum that I know is moving on. None will move on until we know the truth and the Freeh report was not an exercise in truth finding, but just another lie. Told by a man who’s incompetence as FBI director harmed significantly more people than even Sandusky.
    This is nuts. These folks are either grossly incompetent and delusional, or there is something extremely nefarious going on inside this body.

  • 466. Don Bain  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    I cannot believe that there has been so much anti Penn State whoopola associated with the Sandusky crimes. I am also extremely disappointed with the way the university leadership has handled the situations–beginning with Curley, Shultz, and Spanier. What were they thinking?

    As for the Freeh report concluding that there is a “culture problem”–I think that is a very stupid and superficial finding–sort of like, let me get this over with and get my paycheck, then get out of here. As far as I know:
    - the athletic program, and in particular the football teams, did
    nothing wrong;
    - the students did nothing wrong;
    - the faculty, present and emeritus, did nothing wrong;
    - the alumni did nothing wrong.

    It is true that crimes were committed: Sandusky for sure, as evidenced by his convictions; Curley and Shultz will have their day in court to determine their status. Not clear on Spanier–as far as I know he faces no charges yet. Still, I have to ask: “What were they thinking?” It is regretful that Joe received such disgraceful treatment when he was never even charged with any wrongdoing, although he may have had heresay evidence of the 2001 event.

    I would have to add…why does the NCAA have any role in any of this? As far as I know, there were no NCAA rules violated. Heck, unlike the SEC, our athletes actually go to classes. Yes, there were crimes committed and others who are accused will be tried. But, there is a process to handle these crimes. It is underway and it does not involve the NCAA.

  • 467. Anonymous  |  October 30, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    These people discuss me. I can’t and will not support them.

  • 468. Michael S.  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:45 am

    The “culture” that created (and perpetuates) the mess for Penn State is the culture of corruption. It extends from 2035 North Front Street, Harrisburg to One Wall Street, New York to 201 Old Main, University Park to 600 Grant Street, Pittsburgh to One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, NJ, to 1402 South Atherton Street, State College.

  • 469. M. Bennett  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:47 am

    Very interesting, some 500 posters…all they are asking for is the truth, and are being told to move on….”nothing to see here…”

    Ironically, if freeh was half the investigator that he thinks he was, would suspect that there was some OTHER cover up going on here.

    @ the Grimm family…I can no longer renew my membership/subscription until more pressure is put on finding out the truth, as opposed to moving forward.

    the PSU AA needs to step it up.

  • 470. DAVE J. '78  |  October 31, 2012 at 1:41 am

    Karen Peetz,
    I have some easy questions for you to answer. Perhaps you can offer up some “pearls” of your infinite wisdom in return.
    (1) Why did John Surma cancel JVP’s press conference?
    (2) Why did John Surma’s brother, Vic, (a 3 year letterman under JVP in the ’60′s) recently become irrationally negative towards JVP after his son left the football program a few years ago? The same brother who, for many prior years, was quoted numerous times, always highly praising JVP. No conflict of interest here, I guess?????
    (3) Why should we Republicans not vote for Democrat Kane? We want the truth regarding Corbett and the Second Mile $$$$ Trail.
    (4) Why was I ecstatic to have had the opportunity to travel all the way from Phoenix and lustily BOOOOOOO in person one of the FREEH STOOGES at halftime?

    There is one easy answer…The FREEH STOOGES, Peetz, Surma, and Erickson, have royally screwed the pooch. Something is extremely rotten in the state of Denmark. PLEASE MOVE OUT NOW!

  • 471. William H. Smith III  |  October 31, 2012 at 1:53 am

    To borrow from President Bush, on Saturday night Erickson could hear us and Corbett, Peetz, Surma, Frazier, Joyner and all of the other people who knocked our university down will hear all of us soon!

  • 472. S.Carnahan '08  |  October 31, 2012 at 6:04 am

    Every time a member of this infamous board opens their mouth, it sickens me. Please do Penn State a favor and resign immediatley. Perhaps your replacement will have the courage to speak up for Penn State and will quit blaming an entire community for the actions of one man. The board is truly pathetic and should be ashamed of themselves.

  • 473. 9fold  |  October 31, 2012 at 6:23 am

    Karen, you, the other trustees aside from those recently elected, and Rodney Erickson have disgraced our university. Can you not see that? By firing Joe Paterno without the facts being known, the media saw Joe as being guilty and ran with that story. That wasn’t known and still isn’t known now, but the media assumed it. You all created that narrative. It’s disgraceful.

    Joe Paterno should have been put on administrative leave. A statement should have been issued that the university was concerned for the victims of Jerry Sandusky but that the facts around university personnel’s involvement was not known. The statement should have gone on to say that the university supported due process and would allow the legal system run its course. At the same time, the university should have stated that Joe Paterno was on administrative leave because the distraction around the Sandusky case would make it impossible for him to focus on football. If the university had spoken with Paterno in this vein in advance, I am sure that he would have accepted this position. Instead, the university fired Paterno over the phone at 11 p.m. Disgraceful.

    By allowing Louis Freeh to publish a wreckless and grossly innacurate report that condemned Paterno, Curley, Schultz, and Spanier without facts is a further disgrace.

    Then allowing Freeh to have a press conference just one hour after a 267-page report had been made available to the public, meaning before anyone had a chance to read the report and assess its credibility, was grossly irresponsible. Freeh was hired by the university. The university had the responsibility to dictate how the report would be published and in what form and when Freeh would speak. Once again, the university allowed a narrative of wreckless blame without facts.

    Now you, Karen, are saying that the university’s “leadership” will not review and comment on the Freeh report other than Freeh’s recommendation. The university paid $6.5 million for a report that slanders former university leaders and significantly damages the university’s reputation, and university “leadership” will not review it and comment? That is disgraceful.

    The narrative that has been created by our university’s “leadership” provided the NCAA an excuse to impose undeserved sanctions. Rodney Erickson signed a consent decree without discussing the matter with the entire Board of Trustees. Now the football program, which had absolutely nothing to do with Sandusky, has been paralyzed.

    In imposing sanctions, the NCAA’s Mark Emmert said that Penn State put winning above all else. Emmert talked about integrity and academic commitment being their priority. Once again, the university’s “leadership” did not stand up to Emmert. Joe Paterno never put winning above all else. His program never violated NCAA rules. His program graduated over 80% of its players year in, year out (91% in the latest figures). Very simply, Emmert lied in his assessment of Penn State Football. Once again, the university’s “leadership” has gone mute instead of defending the university.

    Erickson claimed that he was threatened by Emmert to sign the consent decree or take a 4-year death penalty. That’s nonsense. Erickson should have walked away from Emmert and reviewed the matter with the entire Board of Trustees. If necessary, the university could have taken the NCAA to court. That was an option. The NCAA’s position on Penn State would have never stood up in a court of law because there was no basis for the sanctions. Penn State Football did not violate any NCAA rules. Period.

    At every turn through this saga, the university’s “leadership” has not only made the wrong decisions. The university’s “leadership” has undermined the university it is responsible and done great harm to its reputation. The university’s “leadership” has failed us all.

    Penn State is regularly discussed in a negative light in the media, and the university’s “leadership” are responsible for that. The media is not merely talking about Sandusky. They are talking about The Penn State Scandal. The university’s leadership have not just allowed it. The university’s “leadership” have caused it.

    Karen, you, the trustees aside from those recently elected, and Rodney Erickson must resign immediately. You are not wanted here. You are unfit to lead this university. You are the ones who must move on because the rest of will not until you are out.

  • 474. Dave "80  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:09 am

    Prior to Nov. 2011, I was happy to “give my money, but not my two cents”. Now you will not receive my money and here’s my two cents: the BOT and Pres need to resign if you ever wish to see my money again.

  • 475. J. Clouser  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:15 am

    How does a person “move on” when the healing process has not even begun? When Joe Paterno and his coaching staff are vindicated and honored, then we can begin the process of moving on! This, to me, is human nature and common sense.

  • 476. BHF23  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:18 am

    It is totally unfair to accuse the Board of Trustees of a “rush to judgment” in the Sandusky situation. The available evidence shows it was far more likely a “rush for cover.” These people should not have a moment’s rest until every one involved or silent is exposed.

  • 477. Chuck 93' Ph.D.  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:24 am

    PennStater, you need to take heed of the outcry from alumni and the fact that we aren’t buying what Peetz and Ericson are selling! We would appreciate a hardline article where the BOT is called out for their mishandling of the entire Sandusky/Second Mile issue and the rippling effect is has had on our beloved University.
    Culture defines a people and there is good and bad within any culture. A reflective look at the impact a culture may have on an organization or people as a means to improve is a good thing. The BOT talks like this is the solution – they spin it to say that we, a football crazed culture, have lost our priorities. In reality they want to scapegoat “football culture” to account for their own mismanagement of the situation and as an attempt to move past the situation.
    After all, the mass public heard from the media it was a PSU scandal so it all fits. Paterno and the current football program are thrown under the bus to try to correct for their shortcomings. It all seems very well orchestrated – crisis and publicity management 101.
    The BOC is trying to build up what they left others knock over. On the way there is collateral damage. The reality is that they mismanaged the mess and could very well be covering their own backsides and the corporate connections and 6 figure salaries. Ask yourself, in corporate America do you think management would have survived such a fiasco? They all need to resign.

  • 478. Rich Weitzman  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Every time I think of the Board of Trustees, I am reminded of Kevin Bacon’s character in “Animal House” bending over and saying, “Thank you sir! May I have another?”

    They have not only stood by while the name and reputation of Penn State was dragged through the mud, they did some of the dragging. As a result of their actions, Penn State has given away over $100 million and counting. But, what the heck, it isn’t THEIR money. We are supposed to bend over and cough up some more for them to burn. Well, not one more cent from me until every one of those irresponsible clowns from November 2011 are gone, including Erickson and Joyner. That just means more money for Thon.

  • 479. NOBOT  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:02 am

    I find these responses to be utterly disgusting from representatives chartered with running our school. They throw around phrases like “facing catastrophe” and “divided on the subject of Joe Paterno” – yet provide ZERO information or data on what that actually means. In short – this is nonsensical lies.
    Don’t for a second believe these people. They have failed at their job and offer no substantial proof otherwise.
    How many alumni are “divided” – what’s the numbers?
    What catastrophe were we facing – one year death penalty? Did they run the actual numbers to see if 1 year of no football revenue would be more or less than the 60 MILLION they are paying the NCAA?
    They speak of those wanting to “move on” – well wasn’t that marketing program THEIR idea?
    Ask Karen Peetz how much HER company (Bank New York Mellon) has profited from it’s business with Penn State? How much have her clients benefited (she did not recuse herself in a land deal decision with Toll Brothers although BNYM is their 7th largest stock holder).
    I hope and pray that Penn Staters are not so stupid as to believe this – and find it worthy of fighting these clowns until each and every corrupt member of the BOT from 9/11 are removed from the further damage they will do to our school.
    We are OVER 21 MILLION spent (without the NCAA fines) to lawyers and investigators – none of which are State College based …. And ALL of which have “relationships” – even friendships – with our illustrious BOT!! WAKE UP PSU – and DON’T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!

  • 480. Dick Crestood  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:07 am

    There does seem to be at least one common personal attribute

    besides lying, narcissisim and greed

  • 481. Jim Long  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:08 am

    Moving On means covering Up. Peetz, Surma, and Erikson need to go immediately. Untill that happens and Joe Paterno is honored, there is NO Moving on

  • 482. Dick Crestood  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Don’t forget Joyner who is Surmas puppy, since he is living in a house rent free

    owned by a wealthy alum past BOT member

  • 483. Pete Radig  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:37 am

    The BOT did what was convenient for them at the time. They never wanted real jurisprudence, they just relented to media pressure.

    To take away Joe’s legacy of greatness (not just on the field) and to punish the most honest, caring group of student athletes in the nation, is just despicable. They (we) did it to our own.

  • 484. Dick Crestood  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Correction joyner lives in a house rent free owned byIra Lupret

    as stated here, joyner

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/05/penn_state_acting_athetic_dire.html

  • 485. No More Donations  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:52 am

    I, too, am an alumnus who has stopped donating to Penn State, starting in November, 2011. And I refuse to give another cent to PSU as long as any of the trustees from November of 2011 remain on the board.

  • 486. Jeff Montgomery  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:54 am

    My brother was a 1960 graduate and I am a 1969 graduate of PSU. I saw what this University was before Paterno and after. While I certainly do not pretend that Joe was ENTIRELY responsible for the transformation from a middling state university to a world-class institution, it was he who challenged us all to see that we could achieve an institution respected for its athletics as well as its academics. He shook up the sleepy, small-town isolated culture that was Penn State College and inspired us all to help create a world class institution.

    Unfortunately, he could not change the culture of the BOT, which remains isolated, protectionist and politically motivated. It was that culture, ironically led by former Paterno players like Suhey, Joyner, Surma, et al that eventually did him in. Until we rid ourselves of the entire BOT, we will never fully achieve Paterno’s dream. If any of the BOT members have ANY regard for this University’s future, I urge them to resign NOW. Resign en mass, all of you. Until you do, we can never “move on.”

  • 487. Dick Crestood  |  October 31, 2012 at 9:06 am

    How quaint The school has a lying corrupt banker as it spokesperson and a failed businessman as AD

    Time for tar and feathers

  • 488. BUFFALO LION  |  October 31, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Everything you guys say anymore is absolute garbage. You hired a guy that had a conflict of interest with The Second Mile (Freeh) to do a hit piece on Joe Paterno and the Football Program so that you could deflect the attention away from yourselves.

    As a registered Republican, I only hope that Democratic Candidate for Attorney General, Kathleen Kane, utterly destroys Corbett’s hand picked crony David Freed next Tuesday in the election. Then maybe we can have a full investigation into Corbett, The Second Mile, and possibly even some of the members of our own Board of Trustees.

    The way you guys have handled this thing stinks to high Heaven. Either you are the biggest bunch of cowards in the history of Higher Education, or a LOT of you have skeletons you want to hide, and hide quickly.

    The way you “people” treated an 85 year old dying Man that advanced Penn State’s academic reputation more than everyone else on the Board put together shows me that you have absolutely no respect for human life. It took Joe 45 years to advance the University’s Academic reputation to where it was a year ago. It only took you, Erickson, Corbett, and the rest of the BOT one year to tear everything back down to where it was pre-1966.

    You are the lowest form of human beings.

  • 489. Ktownlion  |  October 31, 2012 at 9:12 am

    The most disturbing element of this is that leadership, when given the opportunity to defend the Penn State culture, which as evidenced by many of these eloquent comments, most alumni understand was absolutely worth defending, chose not to. Was our senior leadership weak or simply believed that the media was correct? Their reactions, (not actions) if done at this Sr. leadership level under a crisis this impactful, at the companies that employ them, would have long ago resulted in dismissal.

    The facts are undeniable as it relates to football. Do the players live in special housing? No. Do they get special treatment in the classroom? No. Do they graduate at higher rates than almost all other “football” schools? Absolutely yes. That is the football culture Joe Paterno believed in and lived. To make him the singular focus of what was wrong, is simply, well, wrong.

    And to see everything we love and believe in, everything we know to be good, to be allowed to be destroyed by a ravenous media firestorm, not by facts, is sad and worthy of a swift and all encompassing change in leadership.

  • 490. Ryan  |  October 31, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Peetz, Surma, Erickson, and Joyner all need to go.

    Peetz and Surma were in a position to help lead Penn State through this. They ignored reports that Sandusky was being investigated, then that him and administrators were going to be charged. When the isht hit the fan, they hid behind Joe Paterno to save their prestigious positions on the BOT.

    Erickson is a puppet. A Penn Stater but Coach BO’B bleeds more blue and white than Erickson ever will. We need someone who is going to stand up for the University and proclaim the greatness at Penn State, Past, Present and Future.

    Joyner ran a business into the ground and into bankruptcy. I don’t see him having the ability to do that with our athletic department b/c of the great coaches and students and alumni but he’s too close to the situation. Elect new board members, Hire a new president, and get a new AD. Then and only then, can we move on.

  • 491. Michael Shandor 1976  |  October 31, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Paying $6.5 million for a report that was never thoroughly reviewed is sufficient evidence of November 2011 BOT failing in their fiduciary responsibilities – all must resign immediately!

  • 492. 9fold  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Penn State will not receive a dime from me until Peetz, Erickson, and the other trustees (excluding those recently elected) are out. They have disgraced our university and they have lost my support.

    I will not support incompetence and I will not support the university while it has “leaders” who are hell-bent on ruining it.

  • 493. Scott Burchill  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:13 am

    I am so disgusted with The Penn Stater for publishing such a ridiculously slanted piece of crap that I shredded the magazine and sent it back with a letter. The letter read like this, “Send me a magazine when you get your head out of Erickson’s and the board’s ass”.

  • 494. Tommy Tojan  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:22 am

    I don’t appreciate all the hate and discontent being leveled at Peetz and Erickson. Those of us who don’t bleed “Blue and White” think they are handling the “Penn State Football Scandal” just fine. We love having Silas Redd on our team and look forward to recruiting the “Supa Six” as soon as the season ends.

  • 495. Billyboy172  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Well here is the BOT trail of lies and contradictions for anybody who believes the BOT has been truthful in this.

    http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-trustee-chronicles-part-iii-lies.html

  • 496. Jason Motts  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:36 am

    I appreciate the questions asked as I think a number of them represented what a lot of the alumni and Penn State community have wanted answers to. Unfortunately, Ms. Peetz provided us with exactly what has been the University leadership’s response since last November – nothing! What has disgusted me, and I believe a large number of people in the Penn State community, since last November has been the absence of the University’s senior leadership taking stand and demanding the truth regarding this terrible situation. Instead they’ve constantly wanted to “move forward” and ignore truly finding the truth in what happened which leads me to believe a number of these people were just as “guilty” as Joe Paterno and the others that were damned by the Freeh report. I hold out hope that the people that have been vocal supporters of the University, Paterno and the football program since all of this happened are able to truly uncover the truth – whatever it may be – and then as a community will we be able to move forward. For me, the first piece of this would be to have all of the senior University leadership replaced – starting with our poor excuse of a President and the Executive Committee of the Board of Trustees. This past year should be a case study in what not to do as a leader when faced with a crisis and as a business owner myself am appalled that they have turned their backs on people that have dedicated so much to Penn State and have refused to defend them and support them. We Are Penn State – but unfortunately I can’t say the same for our senior leaders.

  • 497. David Miller  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Will Chairman Peetz and President Erickson please resign now! Peetz claim that, “she would not get into the NCAA’s rationale—“that’s unproductive at best, divisive at worst”—and encouraged anyone who doesn’t understand the decision to read the reasons Erickson gave for the decision and additional explanation from Gene Marsh, an NCAA expert who was retained by the university” is the same old answer we have been hearing for 4 months now. So much for transparency.

    When two former NCAA Presidents publicly state that you, as a University, handled the NCAA infractions incorrectly, maybe it is time for YOU (BOT and Erickson) to look at your performance and culture. Face it, you completely rolled over when you could have fought for this University, and still reminded everyone we do not accept child predators.

    Lying never helps get the truth out, but to quote the great judge Robert Bork, there is no truth in these people.

  • 498. JR  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:59 am

    where to start? how about this: kennth frazier promised that NO STONE would be left unturned. and yet he was in charge of the SIC which commissioned the freeh report which failed to overturn virtually all the stones that mattered! (curley, schultz, JVP, MM, JM, DD, etc.). Then the report gets released early – mere days before 2 significant events: 1) the Court of Arbitration for Support rejects a freeh conclusion that was commissioned stating the conclusion did not match the facts that were uncovered and 2) the freeh law firm is sold to Pepper Hamilton. It was also revealed that certain BOT members as well as the NCAA were getting periodic updates from Freeh and that the majority of legal work was subcontracted to Pepper Hamilton. By the way, Pepper Hamilton represented Merck while Kenneth Frazier – now the CEO of Merck – was GC in the Vioxx litigation. Pepper Hamilton currently is a major outside counsel to Merck. There is a significant COI issue with respect to Frazier and Hamilton which has yet to be addressed. Moreover, despite repeated requests, PS has not released the enagagement letter nor the proposal that freeh submitted. And finally one related matter: why was freeh’s client the BOT, and not PSU????????

    Simply put, something’s rotten in state college!

  • 499. Glenn Kilburn, PSU '72  |  October 31, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Are Peetz, Erickson, and board members reading these comments? Considering that they totally ignore everything else alumni say and do, I doubt that they are. Even so, sadly they would dismiss all of this to support their rationale that they have all the answers and that PSU graduates are stupid. I have never experienced such arrogance and denial as these people have projected and expressed. They are self-serving hypocrites. They have failed the alumni and our university as a whole, and they continue to refuse to accept responsibility and accountability for the irreperable damage they have created with their cowardly and irresponsible decisions. They all must go! Where are the new board members? Why have they not stood up to represent us like they promised?

  • 500. psusmc2003  |  October 31, 2012 at 11:01 am

    I understand that the Alumni Association leadership works for the administration and that there are a variety of viewpoints among our diverse alumni population. Clearly, no one expects the Penn Stater magazine to lead the opposition to Peetz and Erickson. However, we do expect you to take a stand when justice is clearly being violated and to provide constructive criticism when mistakes are made that negatively effect the future of our great university. Publishing powder puff pieces aggrandizing the obvious failures of our current leaders without similar coverage of alternative points of view undermines your credibility and is a disservice to the vast majority of Penn State alums whose voices Peetz and Erickson seek to silence.

  • 501. Howard  |  October 31, 2012 at 11:08 am

    The uniformity of the boos for Erickson on Saturday night have been reinforced considerably by the comments here. What excuse does the Alumni Association have to ignore the will of its constituent group? How can the BoT and PSU administration characterize these responses as anything but overwhelming and unassailable. The Board stands in breech of its fiduciary responsibilities. Its actions relative to Joe Paterno, the NCAA, and the Freeh Report can and should be revoked by a new Board which will be seated in the coming year once a new criminal investigation is initiated..

  • 502. Glenn Kilburn, PSU '72  |  October 31, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Dear Wicked Witch of the North and Cowardly Lion: Show some courage and remorse for your knee jerk decisions and non-existent due process in your decision making: Put Joe’s statue back where it belongs, tell the NCAA to go screw themselves and challenge them about their out of jurisdiction decisions based on a biased and incomplete investigation other than their own, apologize to the alumni who in fact are united and deserve recognition, apologize to the Paterno family for being so course and insensitive, apologize for the hypocrisy of keeping the Paterno name on the library only because it was their money, otherwise I’m sure you’d take it off, apologize for kissing the media and non-PSU family asses and ignoring us, apologize for insulting the entire university by suggesting that we are a football school and not an academic institution, apologize for not recognizing that Coach Paterno was a teacher not a coach, who did in fact place academics first and foremost (did you know that?) and most important – RESIGN!!

  • 503. Carole Vail  |  October 31, 2012 at 11:28 am

    I, like Mr. Kilburn, have been waiting for the new members of the BOT to honor their campaign promises. They pledged to represent the alumni, and that’s why they were elected. Only Mr. Lubrano has remained a presence and has been a voice for his constituents. But what has become of Mr. McCombie’s proposed lawsuit, and why haven’t we heard from Mr. Taliaferro? Mr. Myers, you spoke so eloquently, but talk is cheap. Action is what is needed and right now. Don’t betray the trust that has been placed in you by all of us who will not move on until we get the whole truth about what happened and Joe Paterno and Penn State are afforded due process.

  • 504. Anonymous  |  October 31, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Peetz suggested that “we were faced with catastrophe” and also that Erickson has called the decision the hardest he’s had to make in his entire career.

    “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”-Rahm Emanuel

    Well, they sure didn’t waste anytime on this one by throwing Joe Paterno under the bus. Where’s his Due Process!!!!

  • 505. LB  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    We need to unite in a real way. The Alumni Association is not serving us well. People like #498 seem to have information that is important for us, the real truth seekers, the real trustees. We would be a very formidable force if we could organize and push this issue and NOT MOVE ON. But how?

  • 506. Anonymous  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    YOU move on. WE are NOT.

  • 507. William Raco  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Ms Peetz, since you think the posters to this site are a vocal minority, let’s test that theory.
    Have the CDT announce that you will be on the 50 yard line at halftime next home game. Have the article explain that you are looking to quiet the few disgruntled alumni. Advertise this heavily.
    Give tickets to all your supporters and ask them for their
    cheers and applause.
    If the roar is as deafening as you expect, it will show us malcontents that it is time to ‘move on’

    We, who disagree with your ‘leadership’, will patiently wait for the roar of approval to dissipate.
    Then, you will hear the true feelings of Penn Staters.
    If, as I suspect, that roar rattles the stadium, you will accept the fact that you are not our Lord and savior, and you will submit your resignation.
    Willing to accept the challenge?

  • 508. Anonymous  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    We need real leadership. People who will stand up for Penn State, not bow down to public pressure and hate. What type of people accept such incredible punishments without due process??? People who are guilty and hiding things, thats who!! Peetz and Erickson MUST RESIGN!!! Along with few other BOT members.

  • 509. Bill Young  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Ms. Peetz is waiting for the Curley and Schultz trial for Due Process? Ha? What? Maybe she and Erickson should have followed her own council and waited till said trials were over before rubber stamping the Freeh report and capitulating to the NCAA.

  • 510. Mark Hannagan  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Again, double talk and unanswered questions. It is time you realize that nobody trusts the board or Ericson. You all bring disgrace to the university. It shows the total lack of backbone when you refise to stand up to the dictatorial NCAA. You should all resign.

  • 511. Tony Moscollic  |  October 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    The Freeh report has been thoroughly discredited. His conclusions cannot be reasonably drawn from the evidence he obtained. And, even he admitted that it is incomplete. As I understand it, this report cost Penn State Approximately $6.5 million dollars. So, the NCAA used an incomplete and flawed report as the basis of the sanctions. There are so many questions, it is hard to know where to begin them. But, if these few are answered, it may shed some light on the situation:

    Why is the report so flawed? Either Mr. Freeh is not competent, he has is own agenda or he was ordered to produce that result no matter what the evidence.

    Why did the NCAA act so swiftly and based the sanctions on an incomplete and flawed report rather than do their own investigation? And why was Penn State complicit in letting this happen? Yes, I read the reasons that Dr. Erickson gave. But, those sound more like individuals not wanting “bad publicity” for fighting unjust penalties without due process rather than doing what is best for the university.

  • 512. Aimee Finkel  |  October 31, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Every time Ms. Peetz speaks, it becomes clearer to me that she is incredibly out of touch with Penn State. This includes the current students, faculty and all alumni. The only “culture” problem we have at Penn State has been created by the Board of Trustees, who treats us all like 2nd graders.

    First, she needs to realize that Penn State is a World Class University and needs to be operated differently than a business. She and the board have indeed created an environment and culture where “ you have to tread cautiously at 5 p.m. so you don’t get trampled by the mass exodus?” Where and when does the self-examination of the BOT begin?

    I am infuriated at the statement, “she would not get into the NCAA’s rationale—“that’s unproductive at best, divisive at worst” What? Our university is being raked over the coals by the Public, the Press, and the NCAA. How is it unproductive to prove that Freeh is wrong? Look at the cost to Penn State, not only in terms of money, but pride and reputation. The current actions/inactions are divisive.

    I am tired of hearing of how hard this has been on Rodney. It’s been hard on over 500,000 alumni, current students and Penn State fans. This is not just about football. We Are is an internal concept, a state of mind and being. It has become a part of my identity and only recently, I turn away from pictures of Old Main, a place I formerly revered, a place for introspection. What we had was special and the concept of “success with honor” transcended the football field to all students in this beautiful University

    Her gibberish about Due Process is just that…..gibberish. They have sealed our future, no matter what the courts say. Facts are meaningless to her and the BOT.

    As for enrollment? Applications are down. Why? Not the scandal, but the BOT’s ineffective leadership. It is operated as a Monarchy. In fact, a BOT member commented that the alumni reaction to their ineffectiveness is Anarchy – huh? Nothing is University Driven, and what does that even mean? We know who is making the decisions, and I believe that they would deny any attempt at honoring Joe Paterno.

    You don’t get it Karen – I’m afraid that you never will and that you will destroy my school in the process. We are not going away, but you will eventually.

  • 513. James Rossi  |  October 31, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Move on??? Only when you (BOT members) move out. The entire BOT (except the 3 recently elected) need to all resign. Why? If you are willing to blame Paterno, Spanier and Curly you too must be held accountable. You had to have known about Sanduskys activities and if you did not as leaders of the University you should have. Either way YOU are equally complicit in this. Instead to save your own hides you destroy the impeccable reputation of a dead man whose feet you are worthy to wash. In the process you also destroyed the reputation and name of our beloved University. You are all shameful stewards and YOUR names with the name of Jerry Sandusky should be erradicated from the roles of the University, not Joe Paterno’s.

  • 514. Mike Catino, '70  |  October 31, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    I have always looked forward to receiving my copy of the Penn Stater. It’s one of the finest publications I receive. That being said, I was extremely disappointed with the last two issues. The latest issues seem to be touting the BOT’s position that alumni should “move on.” I believe the Penn Stater should instead be reflecting the position of the vast majority of the alumni who believe that the BOT needs to take responsibility for dragging our university into this mess. Graham Spanier didn’t drag us into this, Joe Paterno didn’t drag us into this, the actions of the trustees a year ago is what led to this terrible chain of events.

    Most alumni, including myself, believe the BOT members of November 2011 should resign. Those trustees have repeatedly damaged the university. The firings, The bad press, The Freeh report, Removing the statue, Accepting NCAA sanctions, Paying Sandusky’s victims to name a few. Do you think that anyone really believes the cost to fight off the NCAA in court would have exceeded the 60 Million dollar fine? If you add in the fact that no NCAA rules were ever broken the decision should have been a slam-dunk. Karen Peetz and company have continually failed to defend our university. They are the people that need to “move on” to something other than creating havoc at Penn State.

  • 515. Susan Gifford  |  October 31, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    I would like to concur with the 514 preceeding posts calling for the immediate resignation of Ms. Peetz, and would add, at a minimum, that Messrs. Frazier and Surma also immediately resign. My call is based on the Board, by its actions November 9, turning the Sandusky scandal into the Penn State/Paterno scandal. All that has transpired since can be traced to the Board’s cowardice and horrendous judgement in a time Penn State needed courage and integrity from its supposed “Trustees”.
    With that said, I would like to refer to post #280. I am reluctant to make this political, but believe that politicizing certain board member actions may be the only thing the alumni can do to make our voices heard where it counts. I start by stating I am a Republican, and voted for Governor Corbett, and action I now deeply regret. First, I believe that a vote for Kathleen Kane would bring some sort of investigation of the “investigation”, starting with why a credible allegation of child abuse/molestation was referred to a Grand Jury for investigation. Second, Gov. Corbett has nominated Kathleen Casey to the BOT. Ms. Casey may be a well-qualified individual; that is not the issue. I object to filling the BOT with more Corbett puppets. The State Senate has to approve this nomination. I ask all concerned Penn Staters to contact their Senator, and request that he/she, at a mininum, vote to table this nomination. Third, outgoing Auditor General Jack Wagner released preliminary findings on his investigation into aspects of Penn State in July 2012, and promised a full report in 60 days (but I can’t find any such final report on the PA government site). We should contact Mr. Wagner and ask that he finalizes and issues his report prior to him leaving office. While I am unsure I support all the recommendations, at least his report is from an non-ally of Corbett and may provide some help to us in changing the governance of the University. We also need to pressure all PA legislaters (as recommended in post #396) as changes we want in the University’s charter and governance must be made, I believe, by the PA house and senate.

    Refering again to above posting #396 (and #406), I had a similar idea this past summer. If concerned Penn Staters purchase one share of BNY Mellon, USS, and Merck, we are entitled to attend the annual meeting of shareholders, and could make our displeasure known to the employers of the Board members who have failed Penn State. Perhaps this type of action could achieve the desired result – the resignations of Board members serving on Nov 9, 2011.

    Fight on, Penn Staters

  • 516. Chris Binner--class of 1980  |  October 31, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Ms. Peetz and the BOT:

    I actually thought and believed you were bright people.

    Honestly, most of you hold executive positions at major corporations. Some of you are on other executive boards–where they seek your counsel.

    How is it possible that you have made a horrible and unimaginable tragedy even worse than possible; but you continue to do so as of this writing, by ignoring the very group you represent–the alumni, students, and faculty.

    My fellow alumni have pointed all the issues in the previous posts, but these problems began one-year ago on November 9th.

    And by the way, who the hell did you pay millions of dollars for PR advice/counsel??

    1) By canceling Joe Paterno’ s press conference on the Tuesday prior to the Nebraska game was analogous to saying “something’s wrong, we’re guilty.” You don’t cancel press conferences–you face the press with facts and truths. It’s okay to say, “we don’t know but we’re investigating the issue. The one thing, that was TAUGHT to me in the Carnegie Building by a wonderful Journalism Department–you don’t HIDE!–People and the public think you’re guilty and that your hiding something.

    2) You proceeded to distance yourself from both the previous President and the Head Coach WITHOUT first investigating the issues at hand. Note that Joe Paterno served our University for 61-years of outstanding and incredible service–and you didn’t even have the human dignity to talk to him first, and instead, terminated him over the phone! You should be ashamed of yourself.

    For the record, Linda Kelly, the current State Attorney General, said at her press conference that very Monday, that Joe Paterno did NOTHING wrong, and should be praised for “going by the book.” But i guess you terminated him because “he should have known.” Known what??

    3) You commissioned Louis Freeh to conduct an independent investigation without first checking whether he is QUALIFIED to investigate such incident. Unbelievably, you allowed an independent contractor to HOLD A PUBLIC PRESS CONFERENCE to further damage the reputation of this University based on his prosecutorial tone–you ALLOWED him to steer the agenda and play to the media. And what is amazing you paid him $6.5MM to crush us. The Freeh Report is a flawed document–the most basic fact being, how can you possibly have an independent investigation and you don’t interview the 5 individuals involved in this tragedy??

    Has anyone on your board heard of the words “due process?” It is the fundamental value upon which we built our judicial system. The media fried us in public, and still to this day try to drum up stories about this tragedy to bolster ratings, sell newspapers or magazine, or increase website hits–you could have stood up at a podium, and taken a stance. Again, who the hell gave you PR counsel?? Yes, there were victims in this sad case–and we all grieve for them, but you didn’t need to make the alumni, the University we all love, the students, the student-athletes, the faculty victims too!! You took a horrible situation and made it 10x worse.

    Do you guys actually discuss this stuff before you speak?

    4) Then you proceed to hand a flawed report over to the NCAA, and allow them to further punish the University, and worse, student-athletes, a team who HAD NOTHING to do with this situation. Stand up for us, for God’s sakes!

    You have single-handidly as a group done irreperable harm to the Penn State brand. All you had to do is “manage the media–and take on the fiduciary responsibilty you were elected for.”

    5) Truthfully (and i am telling you the truth)–the one that made me laugh, was when you said “we were not going to review the Freeh Report, and just go through the chapter on the recommendations.” Well, if that is the case–i would ask that then you ask Louis Freeh, or in this case, Pepper-Hamilton for about $4.5 million dollars back of the $6.5 million. Seriously, are you crazy? Who the hell pays $6.5 million for a report on heinous crimes, and doesn’t review the vast majority of it–that is simply unacceptable. If i did that in my job–i would be fired on the spot! Not by phone though.

    6) And for the record, Ms Peetz–don’t lecture me or my alumni fellow on Culture, and say that our culture is “marred.” That “culture” taught me about discipline, it taught me how to act like an adult, to take on responsibility, to face PROBLEMS head on honestly, and tackle them. That is the Penn State culture–it’s not about football. Hell, football is a by-product of a wonderful university and a family that is truly unique in this world. So don’t even go there–i ain’t changing, and neither is the culture.

    If anything you need to change, it’s the board’s myopic view of this entire situation. You keep stating like a parrot that we need to “move on.” Again, and i say this with all seriousness–this situation has done irreperable harm to many many individuals, groups, an institution–and you want us to “move on.” We are all looking, searching for the truth and the facts.

    You can’t move on when so many people have been damaged and harmed–there has to be a reason why?

    Seriously, if you want to do all of us some good–simply resign. We will replace you with people that will ask the hard questions, tell the truth, not obfuscate their answers.

    That’s all we ask–and until that happens, we’re not going to move.

    For the Glory,

  • 517. Rick Herman '75  |  October 31, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    I will never trust anything that Erickson, Peetz or Corbett say. There is no way that you sign a consent decree in such short order the way that Erickson did unless there is more to the story let alone not being afforded the right to due process. How could this world renowned University not have formed a committee of great minds to generate binder after binder of documentation in support of the good “culture” of Penn State and present this to the outside world rather than the rush to judgement and continually portray guilt every step of the way? 108,000 Penn Staters booing “President” Erickson at the game this past Saturday should tell you where we all stand. “President” Erickson, how can you even attend a game knowing that with the stroke of a pen you sold out all the innocent players and Penn Staters in that stadium and around the world, past, present and future? If you want to continue to say that because of the death penalty than let’s get the truth out as to who put the death penalty on the table as that is not what all members of the NCAA are saying. It just amazes me that the corrupt NCAA was able to throw their bylaws aside and allow Emerett to do as he so desired. You really believe that had this gone before a judge that a judge would have allowed this without the NCAA having to follow their bylaws? Since we do not have any wins for the years 2005 and 2008 those years should be removed from the suite side facade of the stadium as they are no longer special. How about a ceremony on senior day and Erickson, Peetz and Corbett can remove the numbers in front of 100,000 people at the game?

    Peetz, after all these months how can you say that after Curley and Schultz have their due process that then we’ll have to say “Ok what does that inform us about the situation, and what do we do at that point?” How could you not say that 11 months ago? That is exactly where we should be at this stage – Allowing the process of events to unfold and not making rash decisions in advance of due process, including negotiating with the NCAA. Thoughts and prayers to the victims, but what has Penn State been found guilty of in a court of law at this point in time for Penn State to be offerring to settle lawsuits? Where is the culpability of the Second Mile, the former Attorney General (gee who was that?) and the other local and state agencies that had many opportunities along the way to stop Sandusky?!

    There are thousands of Penn Staters out there like me that will never let this go away until truth and justice have prevailed.

  • 518. Anonymous  |  October 31, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Please resign now Ms. Peetz. The people are speaking and we are the majority. You do not have the support of the alumni. You just don’t and never will.

  • 519. Fred Becker '54  |  October 31, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Penn State is ranked among the top 50 Universities in the World, it was recently ranked number 1 by college recruiters, and the graduation rate of its athletes of all races is among the very best in the country. There is nothing wrong with our culture which many would be more than happy to claim. Our problem is with our leadership as exemplified by Board Chairman Karen Peetz and President Erickson who have failed so miserably to defend and support our University.

    Sandusky’s crimes are inexcusable and our hearts go out to his victims but their was neither rhyme nor reason to the actions taken on that fatal day of November 9,2011 when they threw Coach Paterno, the football program, and our University under the bus with no consideration for due process. Since that time our leadership has continued on a course of folly. The first misstep was in not appointing a truly independent group to perform an investigation but instead appointing several members of the Board to coordinate an investigation by the Freeh group which appears to have relationships with some of the key players in this ongoing saga. They followed this up by essentially endorsing the Freeh report without even doing a serious review of it despite numerous indications and reviews that indicated its conclusions appeared unsupported by the facts. They then compounded this folly by allowing the NCAA to base its unwarranted sanctions on the discredited Freeh report without challenge.

    We don’t need a new culture!!! We need new leadership and we can hopefully take another step forward by electing four new individuals to the BOT in the next election as well as continuing to push for reforms to the BOT. The election of Kathleen Kane to the position of State Attorney General in the coming days will hopefully lead to an honest investigation into the Sandusky affair and all its ramifications..

  • 520. montagcat  |  October 31, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    It was a terrible, tragic event perpetrated by one man and made worse by old men in positions of power. Those men have been duly punished. Thanks to Peetz and the spineless “leadership” of our University, the punishment will continue for dozens of young men and countless individuals and groups who had nothing to do with the events in question. However, the biggest victim of the poor decisions of the University leadership is the reputation of University itself. Why did we not try to change opinions and find the truth instead of succumbing to the knee-jerk reaction of the media? Where was the collective wisdom? What I saw was a mob mentality fueled by FEAR. All those who had a hand in this debacle, including Peetz, should resign now.

  • 521. wlevinson  |  October 31, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    CONCLUSIVE PROOF THAT KAREN PEETZ TOLD AN OUTRIGHT FALSEHOOD IN THE NOV/DEC PENN STATER

    Peetz in the Penn Stater (p. 41) “We’re not planning to make any statements about the guilt or innocence of any of the parties involved [in the Freeh Report].”

    Peetz in July, right after Freeh’s press conference http://www.npr.org/2012/07/13/156706851/paternos-legacy-marred-by-psu-sex-abuse-report

    “I think our reaction is that the clarity that’s come out of the report would show that 61 years of excellent service that Joe [Paterno] gave to the university is now marred.”

    Peetz’s colleague Ken Frazier, at the same time: http://live.psu.edu/story/60356

    “Frazier said the board failed to provide proper oversight, as trustees remained unaware of the allegations against Sandusky from when they were first reported in 1998 until 2011, though it acted decisively once information became public in November 2011. Administrative leaders — including at the time President Graham Spanier, Coach Joe Paterno, Athletic Director Tim Curley, and Senior Vice President Gary Schultz — failed to protect children when they had the opportunity and failed to provide adequate information to the board, he said.”

    Falsehoods told by Joe Paterno in 85 years: 0
    Falsehoods told by Karen Peetz in less than 1 year: 2

    “I think our reaction is that the clarity that’s come out of her Penn Stater interview, and her statement in a Q&A session that the Freeh Group was not hired to assign blame for Sandusky, would show that the Chairwoman of Penn State’s Board of Trustees has lost her integrity. And we have to step back and say, what does that mean?”

  • 522. Anonymous  |  October 31, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Karen, I completely agree with Scott Kimler & Brown eyes comments. You and all but the last four new board me,bers need to resign.

  • 523. concerned  |  October 31, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    First of all, let me say, I Love Penn State as does any one who is commenting. I normally would not comment publicly, but this article deserves my two cents.
    President Erickson,and Ms Peetz want all of us to “move on”. How can anyone accept that statement. THEY HAVE NOT REVIEWED OR ACCEPTED THE REPORT, BUT ARE “MOVING ON” TO IMPLEMENT THE REPORTS RECOMMENDATIONS. In addition, how could anyone accept a report from arguably, the federal government’s biggest cover-up artist for the past two decades , Louis J. Freeh. When one considers his involvement in concealing criminal wrongdoing in the 1992 Ruby Ridge ambush, Waco, Vince Foster’s murder, the Oklahoma City bombing (OKC), Hillary Clinton’s Filegate fiasco, Montana’s Freeman standoff, and the Los Alamos espionage case of Wen Ho , why would Pennsylvania State University’s Board of Trustees appoint him to lead their internal investigation of the Jerry Sandusky child molestation scandal.
    In addition, Freeh’s agency was also working on a similar report for FIFA’s governing body at the same time it was working on the Penn State report. FIFA rejected Freeh’s report because it contained more conjecture than the known evidence demonstrated to be true. In other words, the FIFA report was rejected for all the reasons the NCAA and BOT accepted Freeh’s Penn State report.
    Even more disturbing was Freeh’s predilection to punish whistleblowers that stepped forward to expose illegal deeds within the government or other institutions. In light of this track record, how could anyone within the PSU system conceivably volunteer information if there already exists an atmosphere or framework that discourages such initiatives?
    I do not know about many others, but I will not “move on” until truth is revealed and not the Freech’s Report version of the truth. Maybe it is time for Ms. Peetz, President Erickson and all of those others who led MY University during this disaster to “Move On”
    For the Glory

  • 524. Jim Riehl  |  October 31, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    I agree with just about all of the critical BOT comments that have been made so far and urge people to look at the Oct. 31 PS4RS Press Release (http://ps4rs.org/docs/press-release_10-31-12.pdf) that lists the “top” 25 unanswered questions relating to this sorry situation.

    Also, I’d like to make a suggestion and ask a question concerning donations to PSU. I understand the anger and frustration that courses through these comments. I am not a major donor to PSU, but have made numerous small donations over the years (I graduated in 1972.) to the PSU Libraries and since the Paterno name is and should be on the library, I plan to continue donating directly to the library. I think that is both a way to continue to honor the legacy of Joe and his family and, hopefully, ensure that my family’s donations go somewhere that directly benefits the students . . . who were Joe’s main concern. The money then, hopefully, goes to a specific identified purpose not to some BOT general fund.

    I guess what I’m saying is that I’m not sure that it is in the best interests of the students to cease all donations to all PSU entities. The students (who obviously have suffered through this) might need our assistance. I don’t want to punish them for the (lack of) actions of the bumbling BOT. Maybe someone who is familiar with the deposit of and control of donations can say how the donation machine operates? If one donates directly to a specific PSU entity (whether the library, a scholarship fund, a specific department, etc.) or use, does that entity have full control of the donation and not the BOT?

    Thanks for your time

  • 525. wlevinson  |  October 31, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Re: “I guess what I’m saying is that I’m not sure that it is in the best interests of the students to cease all donations to all PSU entities. The students (who obviously have suffered through this) might need our assistance. I don’t want to punish them for the (lack of) actions of the bumbling BOT. Maybe someone who is familiar with the deposit of and control of donations can say how the donation machine operates? If one donates directly to a specific PSU entity (whether the library, a scholarship fund, a specific department, etc.) or use, does that entity have full control of the donation and not the BOT? ”

    I agree with this. Noting that the Trustees have so far squandered more than $70 million of Penn State’s money on self-serving public relations spin doctors, the Fact-Freeh Report, and the illegitimate NCAA sanctions, NO donations should go to Penn State’s general fund where the Trustees or Erickson can have any control over their applications. If you donate to a specific department, I don’t think the money can go anywhere else.

    Do NOT buy a brick for the Hintz Alumni Center. I would not want my name associated with Trustee Hintz or his alumni center if it was given to me for free.

    My last donation went to the Paterno Fellowship, and my will names the Paterno Library as a backup heir. If the Trustees do to the the Paterno Library what Erickson did with the statue, they will disinherit Penn State and money will go to another charitable entity instead.

  • 526. John Smith  |  October 31, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    It pains me to not donate, but I cannot give until the administration publicly recognizes the errors they made and lets the world know that PSU is not what the media has made it out to be. Withholding donations is the only way the administration will listen.

  • 527. Karen Wilson  |  October 31, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Your time is up. I think your time is up. Where’s the time keeper, is their time up? NEXT.

  • 528. Robert Veres  |  October 31, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Penn Stater Magazine- Perhaps the next issue should publish all of these comments as by the time the last one is logged all of the unanswered questions requiring answers in order to “move on” will be crystal clear to everyone.

  • 529. Linda Berkland  |  October 31, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    Your own words show us that you are not to be trusted. Please feel free to move on!
    http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-trustee-chronicles-part-iii-lies.html

  • 530. Jen  |  October 31, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Peeztz refused to answer if she knew the ncaa would use the freeh report, the BOT has lied, they are not transparent and are trying to play us like we are dumb. I am not buying your moving forward campaign, please you all need to resign. 409 & JVP forever!

  • 531. Michael Murphy  |  October 31, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Many of these comments are so well written that it is difficult to say it any better, however, I would like to tag onto Mr. Fotos’ comment below and change it a bit. I too cannot muster sufficient words to express how thoroughly disgusted I am with this Board of Trustees and their appointed President. If they had a shred of self respect or regard for Penn State they would (not resign, but…) admit the mistakes they made in haste, publicly declare the falsehoods that we all now see surrounding the Freeh Report, apologize to the Paterno family and appeal to the NCAA for the due process that we never received.

  • 532. jenmac1000  |  October 31, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Ms. Peetz and the Board of Trustees should resign, now, not later. The buck needs to stop with you.

  • 533. wendy silverwood (@wensilver)  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Karen: Your body language in this piece is a bit disturbing. Why do you flinch when Frazier speaks? Are you not one of the Most Powerful Women in Banking?

    http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-trustee-chronicles-part-iii-lies.html

    I’m also concerned about your utter lack of respect for these concerned Alumnae here:

    http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2012/10/chairman-peetz-your-time-is-up.html

    What is really going on – what is the Board hiding? Do YOU even know or have certain persons on the Executive Committee made you their Human Shield?

    This is not a “PSU culture” problem, this is not a “PSU football problem”, I suspect this is a deeper darker problem within our Commonwealth & our Governor and their failure to those boys at The Second Mile.

    As a resident, an Alum, a mother and a taxpayer, I demand to know.

  • 534. Dick Crestood  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    http://www.ps4rs.org/

  • 535. Dick Crestood  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    the ps4rs link above has a lot of interesting questions for the BOT and pathetic peetz

  • 536. James DeBernardi  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    Bank Of New York Mellon Corp
    (BK:New York)

    Executive Profile
    Karen B. Peetz

    Vice Chairman, Chief Executive Officer of BNY Mellon’s Issuer, Treasury & Broker Dealer Services and Chief Executive Officer of Financial Markets & Treasury Services, The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation
    Age Total Calculated Compensation This person is connected to 190 board members in 5 different organizations across 7 different industries.
    AGE 56 $4,654,561
    As of Fiscal Year 2011
    Background*

    Karen Peetz and Company sold out due process to protect their annual income. The companies the BOT members work for wanted the Issue to go away. What better way but to buy a quick investigation when access was limited to most relevant facts…then chant OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN WE MUST MOVE ON. $4.6 M annually at risk is big motivation to cover run and move on…. no conflict of interest here.

  • 537. wlevinson  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Trustee Dambly also is now a proven liar, noting that he made this statement after Peetz and Frazier agreed with the Freeh Report to the effect that Paterno, Spanier, Curley, and Schultz failed to protect children.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8378507/penn-state-board-trustees-does-not-plan-review-freeh-report (September, well after the July meeting.)

    “The four people spoken about most in the report, we’re certainly not going to take a position on their guilt or innocence,” trustee Mark Dambly later told reporters. “They’ll go through their process … We’re going to allow that process to play out in the courts.”

    Peetz in July, right after Freeh’s press conference. (Google the quote; I think this site puts the comment into moderation if you use more than 1 link.)

    “I think our reaction is that the clarity that’s come out of the report would show that 61 years of excellent service that Joe [Paterno] gave to the university is now marred.”

    Peetz’s colleague Ken Frazier, at the same time:
    “Frazier said the board failed to provide proper oversight, as trustees remained unaware of the allegations against Sandusky from when they were first reported in 1998 until 2011, though it acted decisively once information became public in November 2011. Administrative leaders — including at the time President Graham Spanier, Coach Joe Paterno, Athletic Director Tim Curley, and Senior Vice President Gary Schultz — failed to protect children when they had the opportunity and failed to provide adequate information to the board, he said.”

    Dambly in September: “The four people spoken about most in the report, we’re certainly not going to take a position on their guilt or innocence,” trustee Mark Dambly later told reporters.

  • 538. Liz Bligan  |  October 31, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    As the asker of the question, I was disgusted by her non-answer. The BOT, from the moment they fired Joe, declared to the world “You’re right! We’re guilty! Joe’s guilty! Penn State football is guilty!” This has been the worst fiduciary failure of any body responsible for the wellbeing of its organization — not to mention an horrific moral failure. Their actions are precisely why we paid $60 million to the NCAA and why we’ll be paying millions to Sandusky’s victims.

    Think about that. PENN STATE is paying JERRY SANDUSKY’s victims. Not the Commonwealth of PA, whose various agencies couldn’t figure out the depth of Sandusky’s depravities, despite their expertise in the area of serial pedophiles. Not the Second Mile, who was informed of Mike McQueary’s encounter in the Lasch building. Not any of the high schools of the victims that poo-poohed the victims’ complaints. Not the Governor. Thanks to the BOT, ONLY Penn State is being held financially responsible for Sandusky’s crimes. That is incomprehensible fiduciary failure. And she said flat out that the BOT does not care that the Freeh report has flaws identified by dozens of lawyers an a Federal judge. They.Don’t.Care. She flat-out said so. They REFUSE to fight for Penn State. They WANT Penn State to pay out these millions. They have no interest in defending the University from the false convictions without due process. They delight in the fact that Jerry Sandusky, a child rapist, got more due process than Joe Paterno. I truly believe that they find great pleasure in that fact.

    She and the rest of them are loathsome and contemptible moral failures. I wish the victims would sue THEM, personally. I have to say that being in her and Erickson’s presence literally made me physically ill, and I have very seldom had that reaction to another human being. Truly, I have no words to describe my utter contempt for them. They are lower than pond scum.

    Have I expressed how I really feel?

  • 539. Jeff Grimm  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    All I can say is thank you Ms. Bligan, thank you.

  • 540. Jeff Grimm  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    These truly are evil people.

  • 541. Matt Prisby  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    They do NOT understand the strength of our conviction! We will still be here supporting our University when they are gone. Thank you, Liz Bligan.

  • 542. Liz Bligan  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Let me say a couple other things to those who, while disgusted with the lack of apropriate leadership by the BOT, still believe that Tim, Gary, and Graham — or ANYONE at Penn State — didn’t do all the right things.

    Please do some research on serial pedophiles. They fool everyone around them. They seduce the children as well as the adults — they seduce the children with great stuff (like being on the sidelines at a Penn State football game), and they seduce the parents by appearing to be the greatest human being on the planet, taking care of all these kids. NO ONE knew the depth of his depravities. NO ONE. There is no reason to expect that Joe, Tim, Gary or Graham truly understood what Sandusky was. Think about it. The Commonwealth’s DPW and CPS repeatedly approved Sandusky for adopting and fostering children. The DA declared Sandusky to be clean. These are people trained in this area of criminal law. Why anyone continues to believe that Tim, Gary or Graham should have known better is beyond me. Sandusky was revered. He was a loveable goofball. EVERYONE thought it was a bit strange that he showered so much with boys, but EVERYONE also simply said, “Oh, that’s just Jerry. He’s harmless.”

    Please stop saying that “just a few people at Penn State” did wrong. No, they didn’t. They didn’t know any more than Joe did about what Sandusky was up to. They did EXACTLY what people who are told things like what McQueary told them (and what was that, exactly??) do — everyone who is faced with the unthinkable about someone whom everyone reveres.

    This is a big part of why Penn State should NOT be held accountable for Sandusky’s crimes any more than the state or TSM. Sandusky, like all serial pedophiles, fooled everyone. Everyone.

  • 543. Timothy Watrous  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Here’s the thing. Erickson has been an academic at Penn State his entire life. Academicians do not live in the real world. To Erickson, the fact that in his mind PSU was considered a “Football School” probably stuck in his craw for years, if not decades. What better way to get even than destroying the entire program, with the help of another traitor in the form of, gasp, I can barely speak her name without a gag reflex action, Karen Peetz?

    I do not trust Mark Emmert of the NCAA as far as I could throw him, but, what reason would there be for the President of Oregon University to lie about the fact that the so called “death penalty” over the absolutely ridiculous span of four years was NEVER on the table?

    Someone is lying, and given the kind of pablum he and Peetz keep passing out at these “transparency meetings” I fully believe it is Erickson. Its him and Peetz against 107,000+ fans expressing their opinion. I think we win. Did you hear THAT Rod?!

    One last thing. There were ten victims who testified against Sandusky, but we now have 20-25 claimants against the University. Can someone please tell me EXACTLY how many of these people claim they were actually abused ON University grounds? If not, then how in God’s good name is this a PENN STATE PROBLEM? Really, I want to know how that works. If the BOT is going to pay off anybody who claims they were abused, without proper proof and, another gasp, due process, then I was also abused by Sandusky. Hand over the millions…..that is exactly how much sense this makes. NONE.

    Erickson, Peetz, Surma, Frazier, none of them has a dignified cell in their entire bodies, don’t EVER expect them to do the right thing, especially in resigning.

    As may others here have said, just move on, nothing to see here.

  • 544. S Luis  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    Like #540 Liz Bligan just said.
    Who knew?
    To fault Paterno for this is insane. The BOT is JUST AS GUILTY OF THIS SAME INACTION. Or to be more sensible- the Bot was fooled about Sandusky as well- so how can you possibly, with a straight face and any shred of human decency expect Paterno to do better that you yourselves did? He was forced out by you dirtbags- especially SURMA. You all should be gone as well. Oh yeah- I forgot you people are not human and do not have any decency.

  • 545. Donna Marquette  |  October 31, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Yes, Karen, sometimes you do need to look at the culture. When I look at the culture at Penn State, I see a wonderful culture of success with honor that has been marred by leaders who have absolutely no idea how to deal with a crisis. New leadership is needed to remove the blemish that you have placed on Penn State. You have left your mark here, Ms. Peetz. Now, please move forward.

  • 546. Matt Prisby  |  October 31, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    I feel for the victims of Jerry Sandusky. I can not even imagine what their lives have been like and I hope that someday they all can find peace. I also feel for the Paterno family that has been subjected to public humiliation and worse, the students whose college life has become a fish bowl, the businesses in State College that have been effected by this Jerry Sandusky Scandal, the faculty and staff, the football players past, present and future, and all the others who have some connection or affection for Penn State. These are difficult times for us all.
    However, BoT, laying down, saying kick me and here take our money is NOT what this or any University expects from its Trustees. It is a strategy of failure and for failure. It does not roll back time for the victims of Sandusky’s abuse and it has created untolled collateral damage. Personal and institutional reputations have been damaged. Many people with some form of connection to Penn State have been subjected to ridicule and worse. Why? Your actions have lead to rampant speculation that there must be something more going on. The BoT is hiding a bigger problem! Maybe you’re not, but at this point no one believes anything you say. You have lost your right to leadership. Don’t believe me? Turn around, look behind you. What do you see? Nothing, the support you claim is a figment of your imagination. Stop deluding yourselves! The 11/9/11 BoT members need to resign now so effective leaders can be identified and put in place.

  • 547. I Lion  |  October 31, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    #536 Liz, excellent post, right on the mark! Well stated!

  • 548. Jeff Deitrich  |  October 31, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Everyone here clearly agrees that the Board of Trustees failed in its fiduciary responsibility to the university and is continuing to do so. We agree that they have failed to protect us — you, me, the current students, the faculty and staff.

    So, what mechanisms do we have for removing this Board? I am asking for real, tangible methods, fellow alumni.

    I have a few ideas, but others may have better ways.

    1. It starts at the top. Defeat Governor Corbett in the next PRIMARY.

    He failed Penn State (and, by some accounts, he enjoyed it). No matter what your party affiliation, this man needs to be removed from the board by voting him out of office. For the record, I’m a registered independent. Doesn’t matter if a Republic, Democrat, or other party candidate replaces him.

    2. Support candidates who are willing to stand up for Penn State.

    3. Vote out every member of the board who participated in 11/9, and be very cautious about electing someone who may have been on the board in the past. This will take years, but it will be worth it.

    4. As a group, we need to find a way to publicly shame these people. It needs to be directed right at the board — not held at Old Main while the board meets elsewhere. We have only two dates left this year when about 100,000 people who care about this cause will come together. What can we do? I am willing. It will take media exposure.

    5. Already I am out of ideas.

    This is the problem: we have no mechanism to remove these people, even though they have done us the most enormous disservice, and they know it.

    How can we effect this critical change?

    Jeff Deitrich ’89
    psumohs@yahoo.com

  • 549. tim pierce  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    Karen we agree on one thing you have done more in the last year than any other BOT, Unfortunately it has been all damaging. shameful.

  • 550. weare'87  |  October 31, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    The only examination of culture change needs to take place with the culture of leadership void within the board of trustees and office of president. I guess a 90% graduation rate for the “football driven” culture has no place in this new improved redirected, freeh approved institution. Speaking of the freeh report, a man who lived in the due process world his entire career, he seemed to abandon what he was taught as a new FBI agent, that is thorough investigation. How can a report be complete and legitimate when those principally involved were not even interviewed? And then to have the BoT accept this incomplete document and give it to the incompetent NCAA to dish out inconsistent punishment, the whole process makes me sick. We should move on, that includes having the BoT move on, literally. I agree that the BoT should have nothing to do with honoring Joepa, they would screw that up too, put it to an alumni vote.

  • 551. CHolt  |  October 31, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Beginning in September 1969 my life changed forever. I became a Penn Stater! I have always been proud of the fact that I was part of the greatest learning institution in the country. Sure football was a part of it but it wasn’t any football. It was done by a man that required respect from his players. It was done RIGHT according to the rules.
    I always wear my PSU gear when on business trips. I have had heard nothing but shock from coworkers and other travelers over the severity of the NCAA sanctions. They wonder as we all do what happened. They all wonder as we do how a university can fall so far so fast from what one man did.
    I have served as a trustee on many boards through my career. I understand the responsibility that is required. I also have seen too many board members become “rubber stamps” for the leadership instead of someone with a spine that questions their actions. too many times they take a “business as usual” approach. Looks like the only time our trustees left their comfort zone to do something different was when they chose to take down a man in poor health that they felt inferior to. A man that did much more for PSU than any of them ever did or will. It makes me sick feeling like PSU students and alumni are being cheated and there is nothing we can do. I just hope I dont take this feeling to my grave like Joepa did!

  • 552. Dick Crestood  |  November 1, 2012 at 7:57 am

    Joyner attend the child molesting seminar and touts “moving forward” what a waste he is, siding with those who destroyed the man who made him, now a mere puppet of the peetz corrupt greedy regime and the lap dog of the guy who lets him live in a home rent free..A failed businessman as AD how stupid is that

  • 553. Dick Crestood  |  November 1, 2012 at 7:59 am

    Finally they are going after spanier, we really need to know the undercover retirement, compensation his family will receive ON OUR DIME

  • 554. Art Thomas, '86  |  November 1, 2012 at 8:40 am

    The BOT emailed me several months ago asking for feedback. I emailed them. I received a boilerplate response to my “precategorized” email. So, what the heck, I’ll repeat what I told them. The BOT has indicated that they take “full responsibility”. What does that mean? To me that should mean that all BOT members in place in March 2011 should no longer be BOT members. I trust that the University could continue to operate while a new BOT is organized.

  • 555. RPP 63  |  November 1, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Will someone please find a way to get these comments to the major newspapers and blogs? It would be a shame to waste them.

  • 556. Anonymous  |  November 1, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Ms Peetz, There is only one way to move forward. You and the BOT in place in Nov 2011 need to admit your mistakes publicly and resign. Allow the PennState community to move forward with new and effective leadership.

  • 557. Scott B  |  November 1, 2012 at 11:12 am

    More positive publicity………

    Pa. attorney general to hold news conference regarding PSU sex abuse case

    Criminal charges expected to be filed against former PSU president

    Today at noon.

    http://www.wjactv.com/news/news/pa-attorney-general-hold-news-conference-regarding/nStCC/

  • 558. Deborah Jones  |  November 1, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Ms Peetz- I entered the comment above, which I stand behind completely and did not intend to enter it anonymously- I am a proud PennState alum.

  • 559. L. Louder  |  November 1, 2012 at 11:17 am

    I will not “move forward” until most of the members of the BOT move out. It’s astounding to me that they refuse to understand how angry alums are. I may only be one alum voice but I’m adding it to the growing surge to rectify the injustices that the BOT fails to even admit exist.

  • 560. geoa201  |  November 1, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Louis Freeh, in Chapter 6 Key Findings, states that some Board members felt that they were “rubber stamping” major decisions made by Spanier and a smaller group of Board members. Karen Peetz talks in her interview to Penn Stater magazine about the executive committee and Erickson making the decision about the NCAA sanctions. All the BoT did was change the person at the top; a small group of Board members are still making major decisions for the entire university.

    Karen also talks about subcommittees being formed. Some of these subcommittees have been formed with pre-approval for decisions. Again, small groups within the BoT are making major decisions without having to go through the entire Board when they do make decisions on their specific issue. Two examples would be the Special Investigations Task Force and the subcommittee on the approval of settlements of lawsuits.

    Thirdly, Karen talks about the Freeh Report findings and how they – I assume she means the BoT – are not lawyers. Yet, there are lawyers on the Board, including Governor Corbett and others, General Counsel to the Board, and other legal advisors to the Board. In fact, Gov. Corbett would have the best first-hand knowledge of the Sandusky investigation since he initiated the investigation as Pa Attorney General, and Gov. Corbett would have the best first-hand experience of large-scale child protective services being Pa Attorney General from 1995-1997 and again from 2005-2011.

    Karen Peetz talks about “moving on” and creating a better atmosphere within the university. The Board needs to look long and hard at itself before making any comments about others. Deflection and marketing will never be enough to bring this great institution back. Transparency and truth may help turn the tide, but I see little chance of that with the Pennsylvania State University Board of Trustees.

  • 561. Patrick Snyder  |  November 1, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Ms. Peetz likes to talk about the “cultural issues of an organization” and asks “why your organization constantly succeeds in certain areas and maybe falls short in others.”

    Okay then, let’s address the Penn State culture, one of delivering a world-class education to hundreds of thousands of students through the years. That culture resulted in our school becoming one of the leading research institutions in the world. Oh, by the way, we won more than a few football games along the way. All of these areas have been, and continue to be, successes. Where are the failures?

    Management! Any consultant will quickly tell you, organizational failures start at the top – the Board of Directors, in this case, the Board of Trustees. Their continued insistence to try to sweep issues under the rug, to “move on”, is a reflection of their unwillingness to accept responsibility in the scandal, and their need to separate the BOT’s actions from the fallout that ensued. Peetz, Erickson, Frazier, Corbett, et al, come across as disingenuous, with a typical Corporate America cover-your-ass mentality.

    I am associated with Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship, a group working toward positive change at Penn State, including the removal of the majority of the existing Board of Trustees.

  • 562. Anonymous  |  November 1, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Peetz and Erickson are so out of touch with what the vast majority of alumni, students and fans, and even many totally unrelated to the university who have an opinion, really think. The fact that erickson was resoundly booed by an entire stadium of over 100,000 should make him wake up and realize that simply “moving on” is not acceptable for more than just a few disgruntled fans.

    And they do NOT believe in the “transparency” they allegedly espouse. Several weeks ago, I sent a request through the university information system asking for the individual emails addresses for all BOT members so I could communicate directly with some of them, including Amthony Lubrano. I was sent a list of all members with professional addresses and NO EMAILS. THE BOT CLEARLY DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM US.

  • 563. Fran Sonne  |  November 1, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    I am number 561 above. I do not want to be anonymnous, Fran Sonne class of 1973

  • 564. JC  |  November 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Does anyone think it is fishy that this latest charge in this case comes just before election day? Also, did you know that Linda Kelly (acting AG) hired Corbett’s daughter in her office? Corbett is very afraid that Kane will become the new AG.

  • 565. JB  |  November 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    I see 563 responses that generally are all asking for a change in leadership at the University. I stood in Beaver Stadium with 108,000 other Penn State faithful this past Saturday. During the halftime presentation when Pres Erickson was introduced, I did not hear a single cheer or voice of approval. I heard just the opposite from every part of the stadium.

    A PSU marketing rep recently took us out to dinner to solicit a donation. When we probed, we were told that the university has no plans to change any leadership position until 2014. The current plan is to ‘provide consistency in personnel’ through the implementation of the Freeh recommendations and any future fall-out.

    The lack of response from the University through this whole process has been apalling. The alumni and PSU faithful are ready to move-on with new leadership for the university. WE ARE ready to embrace the change that comes with new leadership. Waiting another year for change will be incomprehensibly damaging.

    I respectfully request the current leadership to recognize their shortcomings and move-on themselves.

  • 566. Jack  |  November 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    I just want to say that the above comments against the BOT and “moving on” are awesome. I agree 100%. You have my support… for as long as it takes to correct this.

  • 567. Dr. Charles B. Stuller "68  |  November 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    It makes me ill to ponder the consequence of having politically correct apologists like Peetz and Erickson be the mouthpiece of our great University.Their efforts to evade the major issue of a fundamentally flawed Freeh report, bought and supported by the very group sworn to protect our University, as the basis for egregious denigrating public opinion and sanctions against our University’s integrity and honor is inexplicable

  • 568. wlevinson  |  November 1, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Re: #564

    Let’s see… Spanier, Curley, and Schultz endangered the welfare of children by not doing “more” about Mike McQueary’s very uncertain story as to what he may have perhaps seen in the shower. However, then-Attorney General Tom Corbett did not endanger the welfare of children by allowing Sandusky to sodomize more boys so he could “collect more evidence” and incidentally delay any blow-up until he could be elected Governor.http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/20/sandusky-accuser-details-abuse-ordeal-in-new-book/.

    “He first reported the abuse in 2008, but he said the state attorney general’s office [that's Corbett] told him it needed more victims before Sandusky would be charged. Sandusky was arrested last November.”

    Also, unless there is a double standard somewhere, why have these people not been charged? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2
    012/10/20/sandusky-accuser-details-abuse-ordeal-in-new-book/

    “Fisher was 15 when he and his mother reported the abuse to a school principal [mandated reporter], who responded that “Jerry has a heart of gold and that he wouldn’t do those type of things,” Fisher told ABC, repeating his trial testimony.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/20/sandusky-accuser-details-abuse-ordeal-in-new-book/

    “But this week, Aaron Fisher revealed his identity to the world and, in an exclusive interview with “20/20′s” Chris Cuomo, told the story of those he said stood in his way as he struggled to bring now-convicted child predator Jerry Sandusky to justice: officials at his own high school.”

    “Here I am, beside my mom, crying, telling them and they don’t believe me,” he said in an interview with Cuomo airing on “20/20″ tonight at 10 p.m. ET. “I knew they wouldn’t.”

    This is strong evidence that the charges against Spanier, Curley, and Schultz are politically motivated, and their purpose is to deflect attention from others with far greater culpability including the Department of Public Welfare (re: the 1998 incident) and the Governor of Pennsylvania himself.

  • 569. P J McAneny , 1974  |  November 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    I thought additional charges would be coming for Curley and Schultz. The AG will have a difficult time with the perjury charges in front of a jury without JVP.
    Spanier wants to get his named cleared. He will have his opportunity. Unfortunate that the forum has to be a court room.
    The BoT damage continues to pile higher.

  • 570. Anonymous  |  November 1, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Enough already! The BOT has done tremendous damage to this great university’s reputation and will cost the university millions of dollars. We will not move on,Ms.Peetz. There is nothing wrong with our culture, however, there is something wrong with the culture of the BOT—-the culture of putting their self interests first! Their lack of accountability; their lack of concern for the damage they have inflicted by not challenging the Freeh report (they didn’t even bother to read it) and finally, their lack of honesty and integrity is very disturbing. The BOT is a joke and a great embarrassment. They can all learn something from our football team, particularly our seniors: integrity, loyalty and leadership!

  • 571. Mark Z  |  November 1, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    The board and all of their various puppets (Erickson, LaTorre, etc) continue to disgrace the University in every way possible. I wish they would stay silent as the only thing I can count on is that they will say or do something stupid with each and every action they take.

    My disgust with them boils down to 3 things:
    1. A lack of due process (which they teach on campus!)
    2. Total cowardice as related to the NCAA and the Freeh Report
    3. Offering little or no resistance to the mass media portrayal of the University and Joe Paterno.

    Due Process: Just today, their statement out to the local alumni chapters further shows how disgraceful they are: Each person that was charged is noted to be off the payroll and the charges were just announced today! Imagine they already decided how those trials that are months away will come out and they are doling out the first wave of punishment. This lack of due process goes times 10 for Joe Paterno, his legacy and his statue. Any student in either Pre-law or Dickinson Law school should transfer immediately – this is a fundamental right of living in the United States!

    Cowardice: The booing that Rod Erickson was hit with would be only the opening salvo if Ms. Peetz ever dared put herself into a public forum like that. She couldn’t hide behind a time clock, her various mouthpieces and a schedule. Her cowardice to address the majority of alumni concerns shows just how much she recognizes she is in the wrong and has no support. Their collective inaction against both the NCAA and the Freeh Report continues to penalize countless innocents, as well as affecting those who count on the sports team for their livelihood. Either show your face and listen to your constituents, or do the honorable thing and step down. Ms. Peetz, you are a full scale embarrassment to yourself, your family and the University. Penn Stater magazine – you need to recognize this and keep her out of your publication, unless you do what is right and put together an issue noting the sentiment, facts and logic behind these 500+ comments to date.

    Limited Resistance: Can you not see the damage your inaction and ridiculous “moving on” campaign is? Any time there is a Penn State news item, it jumps to the top of the media outlets and uses it to remind everyone what a punching bag we are. Time to lead and change the dialogue. Do you not understand that this will continue every time a new charge/trial/victim steps forward. No one will be moving on until those stories stop, so rather than tell us to move on, you need to circle back and change the dialogue. While you attempt to control the alumni, you can’t control the mass media and they continue to have a field day at our expense. Start with firing the PR firms you hired as they are only ones doing a worse job than you, but to their credit, they are getting paid millions to offer up your cowardly messages.

    We continue to stand proud, prop ourselves up each time the board and their “leader” Peetz takes their next moronic action. Our spirit is not broken and we are not moving on, until you do the honorable thing and move on yourselves. It is only with true leaders will Penn State work its way out of this mess and you show time and time again that there is no one capable of leading (Mr. Lubrano, Mr. McCombie and Mr. Myers excepted).

  • 572. Ann Bentz  |  November 1, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Regarding Jeff Dietrich’s comment #547: WHAT can we DO to dismantle/STOP this Board??I’m sure there are smarter ideas than mine: the BoT just authorized a subcommittee to settle claims of individuals ALLEGING harm from Sandusky. The Board estimated that claims could come from 20-25 individuals (Sandusky was convicted of abusing 10 boys), and could total in the MILLIONS of dollars.The BoT has literally just appointed itself prosecutor, jury and judge in determing awards to be made to individuals with UNSUBSTANTIATED claims. I understand the potential benefit of settling possible criminal claims before they go to court, but in light of the Board’s rush to make this all go away…do we TRUST them to spend our money wisely in this regard??? Is there any way we can stop them from proceeding with these settlements? Can a Class Action make a big statement? It would be a MAJOR vote of no confidence, even if we couldn’t stop them. Any Attorneys out there??

  • 573. Deanna Nardozzo LPC - '91  |  November 1, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    It’s been 357 days…I’m still waiting for the BoT to apologize to the Paterno family! The board started this whole mess by firing Paterno…he said he would retire in Dec….four more games and the season would be over…no they couldn’t wait, or maybe it was Corbet
    who couldn’t wait. I don’t think they(Peetz and Erickson) understand what a mess they created…they say they understand the alumni…who are they talking to??? Certainly not the 570 people who commented above. Does Erickson have a clue as to why he was booed on Sat.? He is keynote speaker today in Wash. DC at the National Press Club!!!! The board is not listening. Period!
    Imagine if there was a flow chart as long as Beaver Stadium concerning “this Mess” and all the people involved…I know I can’t connect the dots and apparently other alumni can’t either.
    I’m not moving forward until I can connect the dots and I have better answers to: rubber stamping the Freah report, wiping out Paterno’s wins, removal of Paterno statue and NCAA victimizing the PSU football program.

  • 574. Don Butler  |  November 1, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    You have exhibited the same failure of leadership that you have blamed on others. You want to ” move on and heal”? Then resign!

  • 575. K Kershner  |  November 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    It is exhausting to read yet another article where members of the Board of Trustees provides double talk and refuses to answer questions. We are a proud University, you the BoT, and INTERIM president, bring us shame. We are not a “small” group of disgruntled alumni. You have destroyed our school, our history, and a piece of our lives. That is unacceptable, and your poor performance requires that we do “move on”- from you.

  • 576. freyerpd (Paula Freyer)  |  November 2, 2012 at 1:36 am

    All: I believe if the courts find Shultz, Curley, and Spanier innocent, lawsuits will begin against many of these people – the NCAA, Freeh, PSU BoTs, PA Child Protective Services, the list goes on and on. In addition, strong rumors that Corbett is being investigated by the FBI. Former PSU players have already widely spoken about filing suit.

    Once one of these people/organizations fall, I think it will be like dominos – they will all start going down.

    Once this happens, I want to see a Class Action law suit by the alumni initiated. I think there are groups out there that would be eager to help us, i.e., Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship may be a good start. Or perhaps people associated with framingpaterno.com can advise how to at least begin. Maybe we consider legal firms already involved in the case somehow (i.e., Paterno’s legal experts?, etc).

    We will need to organize and begin determining who will represent us, how we will fund the legal effort, what approach we want to take, etc.

    I know it is extremely difficult to continue to be patient with the neverending onslaught by the media, our own BoT members, Corbett and his associates, etc., but we have to stay strong. Once the courts speak, we will know where we stand and we can begin considering legal action at that time.

    If anyone out there can further comment on this, please do. I too am anxious to see these people who are unjustly destroying our university pay and pay mightily. We as alumni need to begin at least contemplating a unified legal approach.

    For the glory.

  • 577. Dick Crestood  |  November 2, 2012 at 8:09 am

    DEMAND that the school refund 25 percent of all tuitions paid since Spanier took office, then reissue diplomas/degrees without the lying little wease’ls signature.

    Strip all benefits from the perps for life, peetz,curley, shultz, spanier and the mgmt at 2nd mile

  • 578. Anonymous  |  November 2, 2012 at 8:17 am

    So given Spainer’s legal response to the recent charges, I’d say it’s clear that HE knows how to handle false attacks and HE knows how to hire a REAL LEGAL team (not “friends” that we want to just give our MONEY to)…. Hmmmm replacing Spainer with Erickson – what an OBVIOUS bonehead move. Unless, of course, there’s a hidden agenda…..

  • 579. Dick Crestood  |  November 2, 2012 at 8:28 am

    School just may see another downgrade

    http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2012/10/28/moodys_downgrades_penn_states_credit_rating.aspx

    BOT only cares about their own butts, the hell with a once great school

  • 580. Ann Bentz  |  November 2, 2012 at 9:32 am

    Dick Crestwood: May I remind you that none of Curley, Shultz, nor Spanier has been convicted of anything. PLEASE give them their Due Process. Don’t lower yourself to the level of the Board!

  • 581. Dick Crestood  |  November 2, 2012 at 10:20 am

    They have been convicted in the laws of decency and common sense.

    there can be no rebuttal to that statement

  • 582. Susan Gifford, '80 MBA  |  November 2, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Wanted to add my two cents to Ann Bentz’s comment (#571). We who love Penn State are angry and frustated, but, regrettably, appear powerless to affect the changes we desire. I, too, am concerned about the sub-committee charged with settling claims. Where is the money to come from (General Fund, University Insurance policy, “friends” of Penn State)? How will decisions to pay or not pay be made? Again, no answers, no transparency. Please, attorneys, give us some guidance.
    As to the new indictments, so much for moving on. I forsaw the continuing drip, drip, of bad publicity, and here’s more of the same.

  • 583. Bob G  |  November 2, 2012 at 11:24 am

    In my view, the biggest problem now facing our University is the lack of trust, due to less than competent behavior, of the Administration, namely the President and members of the Board of Trustees (other than the ones recently elected). I am among those who feel that precipitous and knee-jerk reactions were made that drastically and unfairly impacted many facets of the University, and that there is a place for both supporting abused kids and fighting against the unjust treatment of the University. Until the Board is restructured and the offending members replaced, such confidence will not be restored.

  • 584. Liz  |  November 2, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Mr. Crestood, I have a rebuttal for you. The entire State of PA’s multiple entities charged with the protection of minors declared, multiple times, that Jerry Sandusky was a swell guy who outght to adopt and foster young boys. You are stating that *anyone* at PSU should have known better than ALL of those “experts” in the field of child protection. Yeah, there’s a rebuttal.I’m at a total loss as to how these men are being held accountable to believing the same thing EVERYONE else believed about Sandusky — even people who heard similar stories about Sandusky’s behaviors with boys. These are four very good men with stellar reputations unmarred by the constant “whispering” that surrounded Sandusky. Common sense is that they should not be expected to know any better than experts who actually investigated Sandusky repeatedly and called him clean.

  • 585. knitaknee77  |  November 2, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Sorry, Ms. Peetz and Mr. Erickson, you are out of touch with reality and your alumni base. “we’ve all loved the culture”-Ms. Peetz.
    Guess what, Ms. Peetz, we all still love it. If you do not love it, please leave the organization. If you are such an expert on culture, why is your own division at BNY faltering? Please!
    What are you going to do when alum donations are down? When enrollment drops? How are you going to keep the university afloat? Your short-sightedness, knee jerk reactions and willingness to bend over are insulting to all who love the school.
    Ms. Peetz and Mr. Erickson, you have failed the university, just when we needed strong leadership the most.

  • 586. Cathy Savereno 1974  |  November 2, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    Ms. Peetz, how can we “move on” when the BoT, through your inept handling of this crisis, has brought our beloved university to its knees?

    On the night of Nov. 9, 2011 you showed the world what you truly are–cowards. Firing Joe without proof of his involvement was egregious enough, but to do it over the phone at 10 PM, was the supreme act of cowardice and ignorance. How did you think the students were going to react with that news?! You played right into the media’s hands. That shows you didn’t have the University’s best interest at heart, you were just trying to protect yourselves.

    When the Freeh report was released, you apparently didn’t have time to read it or even have a University representative present at his nationally televised press conference. While this man of questionable ethics was destroying our stellar reputation, you were all meeting to discuss the budget. You felt that was more important?

    After the NCAA announced their sanctions and admonished us for having a “football culture” you did absolutely nothing to defend us. I realize we don’t know all that went on behind the scenes, but because we heard differing stories from you and the NCAA, we felt as though we were never told the truth. And the whole board wasn’t even involved in the decision–where was the “new” transparency? What kind of leadership is that? You are all (with the exception of the newly elected Trustees) self serving and need to resign.

    For the Glory…

  • 587. Sharon Ketchen  |  November 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Sandusky’s crimes were reprehensible and we all feel great sadness for his victims. However, coming to the defense of the innocent should not be misconstrued as a lack of sympathy for the Sandusky’s victims. Justice is not served when accusations are made and actions are taken without due process.

    It should be clear by now that the BoT’s PR strategy of accepting blame on behalf of the entire University for Sandusky’s actions has failed. A year has passed and our name continues to invoke hatred, disgust, and scorn in the media and the court of public opinion. Once proud alumni now cringe in fear of what people will say when we tell them we graduated from Penn State. The NCAA has passed down unprecedented sanctions against our football program. The Middle States Commissions has issued a warning for accreditation. Our credit rating has been reduced and the University is facing huge financial losses due to penalties, fines, and various lawsuits. Student applications are down, and many alumni are declining to donate. Undoubtedly this will impact Penn State’s ability to recruit and retain top faculty and students in the future.

    The BoT is responsible for this fallout because they created the false narrative that our culture enabled Sandusky to molest children. YOU allowed Mark Emmert to label us as hero-worshiping, win-at-all-cost, football fanatics. Yes, some of us are football fans and held Joe Paterno in high esteem. But unlike most football fans across the country, our admiration of Joe Paterno had more to do with what he did for his athletes and Penn State off the field than it did for what he did on the field. He stressed academics over athletics, and strength of character at all times. He coined our culture’s motto “Success with Honor.” One says that the best predictor of future performance is past performance. This was a man who dedicated his entire career to Penn State…turning down more lucrative opportunities on multiple occasions, making significantly less than his peers, and giving generously to the University to help them build their ACADEMIC reputation. What does that say about his character? Does that sound like someone who would knowingly cover-up for a pedophile to protect a football program? Didn’t he at least deserve due process?

    Our “culture” boasts about our football players’ high graduation rates, their modest uniforms, their team spirit, their adherence to NCAA rules, and their sportsman-like conduct. We are proud to host the world’s largest student-run philanthropy (THON) for pediatric cancers. Yes, that was the Penn State culture YOU maligned because it fit your narrative….one that deflected blame from YOU.

    And there it is…the root of the problem….YOU. Yes, Penn State has long suffered from a culture problem that only recently has come to light. This scandal brought the BoT out from behind the shadows and revealed a tangled web of politics, secrecy, power struggles, conflicts of interests, broken lines of communications, and gross mismanagement. If any culture is responsible, it is the BoT. Stop passing the buck and be accountable for YOUR actions. All trustees who were in place as of November 2011, RESIGN! We will gladly hold a special election to fill your positions.

  • 588. Chirodad  |  November 2, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    I am among the legions who couldn’t agree more that the members of Penn State Board of Trustees seated back in November 2011 have acted with wanton disregard to their elected/appointed responsibilities. Their shameless, irresponsible, impeachable and irreparable actions are not congruent with their designated title a a “trustee”.
    It’s quite obvious the campaign to oust the BOT members in question continues to gain momentum. What I fear is that a former member who was sitting a year ago is being overlooked. What about Dave Joyner? Doesn’t anyone else think his move from the BOT to Athletic Director is a bit suspicious? Shouldn’t we have concerns regarding this man being placed in a position where he would have unfettered access to athletic department files? I know everyone has a little of the “conspiracy theorist” mentality in them, but his appointment just seems a little too convenient to me. I mean I wouldn’t even want to think of the potential ramifications that could play out with what he now has access to. I would be curious to know if the prior Athletic Department staff was retained completely, transferred or let go; as well as, what personnel Mr. Joyner brought with him. Until proven otherwise, I believe this man is the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing.
    Not only must Rod Erickson, Karen Peetz and the remainder of the PSU BOT, with the exception of Lubrano, McCombie and Taliaferro, resign it would be my opinion that Dave Joyner must go as well! 

  • 589. Mike Grimm, 2010  |  November 2, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    My father spoke earlier in this record of truth, and now I feel the need to speak for myself.

    I wanted to go to Penn State since I was about 6 years old.The school, the town, the area, all had become like a second home to me. Why? Because since I was 6 years old, my parents took me to PSU football games, they taught me about Joe Paterno, they showed me what it meant to be a true Penn Stater.

    In short, the ONLY reason I came to Penn State was for the culture, the feel of the University. I strongly and truly believe that this culture was inculcated by one Joseph Vincent Paterno. Without him, PSU would have been just another school; OSU, Michigan, USC, Oklahoma, Florida State, take your pick. It WAS Joe that made the place different, special, PENN STATE.

    Today, I have two degrees from Penn State and a job. But what sits on my desk to keep me motivated is a quote from Joe: “Today you will either get better or you will get worse, but you will not stay the same. So, what is it going to be?”

    I will always be a Penn Stater, the Joe Paterno kind of Penn Stater. While I learned a lot from this man indirectly, I learned only one thing from this disaster perpetuated on us all by Erickson and Peetz, Surma and Frazier and Corbett; loyalty means nothing, honor and integrity mean nothing, getting to the truth means nothing. The only thing that matters is self preservation at all costs.

    I will NEVER be the kind of Penn Stater that these people represent. NEVER!

    Michael J. Grimm, Double Major Class of 2010

  • 590. Dick Crestood  |  November 2, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    liz, if they didn’t know what was occurring that is just as bad, in their positions they were well paid to know what was happening in their own house (the school) I am a Harry Truman fan

    Who was the person who was constantly lobbying for secrecy, I think his first name was graham

  • 592. Dick Crestood  |  November 2, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    looks like it was all about the buck, his other window dressing projects seemed to fail

  • 593. Dick Crestood  |  November 2, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    leader my foot

    http://onwardstate.com/community/whose-leadership-failed/

    greedy, narcissistic, self serving, AND A FEW MORE NOT FIT TO PRINT

  • 594. S Lewis  |  November 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    #588 Mike J Grimm- loved your post- it brought tears to my eyes. Truly, most of us will only be the Joe Paterno kind of Penn Staters and that is what we pray our children turn out to be as well. These other posers have lost a part of their soul that they most probably do not even recognize anymore. So sad. They no longer know what it feels like, what it means. They are lost. So RESIGN already -Peetz, Surma, Frazier, Erickson, et al-we do not want you, we do not need you. Please do not inflect anymore harm unto this school. Thank you Mike Grimm- a TRUE Penn Stater who ‘gets it’.

  • 595. SQPublic  |  November 2, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    Dick- enough. You make yourself look bad. Wait for due process. Onward State = National Enquirer. Don’t even go there.

  • 596. Dick Crestood  |  November 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    “due process”

    FROM THE MOST CORRUPT AND SELF SERVING LEGAL SYSTEM IN THE WORLD???

    HELL NO

    Did Joe have a chance to wait for “due process”

  • 597. Dick Crestood  |  November 2, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    lawyers are feasting and will prolong the feast forever if we let them

  • 599. John Drago  |  November 3, 2012 at 8:37 am

    The PSU BOT from November 2011 should resign and issue an apology to all Penn State alumni and the Paterno family.

  • 600. Stephen J. Fotos  |  November 3, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Mr. Crestwood,
    I believe that a trial will determine whether Spanier is guilty of anything. I’m content to wait for that event. In the interim, the current Board and President remain incompetent stewards…..which, is much more pertinent to the future of PSU.

  • 601. Marie-Jeanne Cotner  |  November 3, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Did the board understand that the Freeh report would be used by the NCAA as a justification for sanctions?

    The answer to this question is “yes” or “no.” Anything further is obfuscation.

  • 602. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Stephen the current BOT will elect the next President of the school……………..THAT MUST NOT HAPPEN

  • 603. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 11:02 am

    http://ps4rs.wordpress.com/tag/karen-peetz/

  • 604. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 11:03 am

    “VERY GOOD” observations and proposed questions in post 603

  • 605. Steve '69 in VA  |  November 3, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    … and if this board resigns, who replaces them? Puppets hand picked by “corbutt”? THAT must not happen!

  • 606. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    The real issue is how did we let these self serving narcissistic greedy so called leaders be ANY part in the education of our children.

    Aside from the scandal, kids were binge drinking, falling down steps and killing themselves, PSU was known as number one party school,BUT the so called leaders were fine with that as long as the dollars were there.

    PSU ranks one of the highest in tuition of like schools

    so the narcissistic greedy BOT failed how many times since spanier took office

    you may need your calculator

  • 607. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Joe’s jealous foes, were just waiting to dump him because attendance was down, the week after there were 42000 empty seats and a 13 million loss of revenue for the area, they struck like cowards, banking on the fans complaints about Joe and his two man QB situation to help them in their cowardly endeavor

  • 608. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    By whose rule was spanier still getting paid

    we really need to know that and it should be public knowledge

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Spanier

  • 609. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Isn’t spanier making upwards of $800,000.00 a year

  • 610. Liz Bligan  |  November 3, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Wait, so the justice system didn’t work when it convicted Sandusky? Can’t have it both ways. If the system was right in convicting, then it must be permitted to be completed for everyone else.

    Due process is one of the most important tenets of our nation. It is too bad that Mr. Crestood does not believe in it.

  • 611. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    We do not have prompt due process, no money for the legal system (delay delay delay) appeal appeal appeal) caching caching caching

    In the past million dollar deals were made with a handshake and they were upheld forever

    Liz, explain why there are more words in a simple credit card document than there are in our early constitutional documents, laws and rulings

    One reason being that we have too many attys, I ams sure you can add about 5 more at least

    todays legal mantra, delay delay delay, eliminate white eliminate black, make everything gray and litigate forever

    I certainly do believe in legal process, just not the quagmire our legal system has “invented” to maximize profits

  • 612. Cindy Cornell  |  November 3, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    I am extremely proud of my university – our history, our students, our alumni, our athletics, and our unwavering commitment to community and philanthropy. To me, “Success with honor,” is defining. Where that pride breaks down – in fact where trust is irreparably broken – is in our leadership: our board and most senior administrators. Frankly, I am embarrassed by their lack of diligence, accountablity, transparency, and respect for due process. Among our alumni are world class experts in governance and crisis management and communications, yet our leaders – today and in years past – have neglected to reach out and obtain the qualified experts our university needed to gracefully and effectively manage the myriad challenges our community has faced. From my vantage point, they have acted surrepitously and without apparent regard for others than themselves. We are PENN STATE. For most of us, Success with Honor is how we live our lives. I look forward to the day when our leadership walks that talk. Then, and only then, will we truly be ONE TEAM.

  • 613. Dick Crestood  |  November 3, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    I too am proud of Penn State, and will defend it against unscrupulous narcissistic self serving leadership

    for Liz https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=under+employed+un+employed+attorneys&oq=under+employed+un+employed+attorneys&gs_l=hp.12…2751.12140.0.15924.36.34.0.2.2.0.170.3253.25j9.34.0.les%3B..0.0…1c.1.rmehBXOGvfM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=6d7941c069d24f38&bpcl=37189454&biw=1120&bih=578

  • 614. Anonymous  |  November 4, 2012 at 10:40 am

    I encourage everyone to withdraw all financial support for the University until the BoT resigns or agrees to fight back. I also suggest that you email the BoT to tell them of these plans. Finally, you should email all of your family, friends and colleagues with a PSU connection to inform them of your decision and encourage them to join you. Unfortunately, barring the incredibly unlikely event that the high-character men of the football team refuse to play in the name of due process, money will be the only way to effect change.

  • 615. Susan Gifford, '80 MBA  |  November 4, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    This may seem rude – but who is Dick Crestood? And whose side is he on, anyway? Convicting Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, and Curley before trial plays right into the narrative the BOT constructed on November 9

  • 616. Thomas M Kupchinsky '69, '78g  |  November 4, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Who is Dick Crestwood? I have no idea but he is acting like troll. These responses are hopefully being sent to Peetz, et al. Don’t need a bunch Pennlive Forum lingo here.

  • 617. Patty K  |  November 4, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    OK…for those of us who want to TAKE ACTION, the next meeting of the BoT is Friday, Nov 16. That’s the Friday before the PSU v Indiana football game. A detailed schedule of the meeting, and its location can be found on the Trustees website, http://www.psu.edu/trustees/trustees. There is 1/2 hour allowed for “Public Expression” and you have to register ahead of time and be approved (REALLY??) if you want to speak. Check the bottom of the webpage for ‘guidelines’ and registration instructions. I did this for the Sept Board meeting and, while cut off by Karen, feel firmly that my opportunity to raise a question with all the press there was extremely worthwhile. The more of us who can be there and ask questions, the better.

  • 618. Patty K  |  November 4, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    OK…for those of us who want to TAKE ACTION, the next meeting of the BoT is Friday, Nov 16. That’s the Friday before the PSU v Indiana football game. A detailed schedule of the meeting, and its location can be found on the Trustees website, http://www.psu.edu/trustees/trustees. There is 1/2 hour allowed for “Public Expression” and you have to register ahead of time and be approved (REALLY??) if you want to speak. Check the bottom of the webpage for ‘guidelines’ and registration instructions. I did this for the Sept Board meeting and, while cut off by Karen, feel firmly that my opportunity to raise a question with all the press there was extremely worthwhile. The more of us who can be there and ask questions, the better.

  • 619. Henry Zee  |  November 4, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    While I am not a PEnnsylvanian and haven’t been one for the last 30 years, I still keep track of the Pa politics.

    This year, Democrat Kathleen Granahan Kane and Republican David Freed have both prosecuted a lot of cases, but their bids to become Pennsylvania’s next attorney general could hinge on a case with which they had nothing to do: the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse case at Penn State University.

    Ms. Kane, of Waverly, for 12 years a Lackawanna County assistant district attorney who specialized in child abuse cases, said she believes the case was mishandled. If elected, she promises a full investigation of the way it was conducted, which included the use of a grand jury.

    WHile I am not a Democrat and have very rarely voted for democratic candidates, this is one of the few instances that I urge all Pennsylvanian residents to vote for Kathleen.

    I believe she belongs to the Penn State Party.

  • 620. Anonymous  |  November 5, 2012 at 7:49 am

    I am all about moving forward, but not until the BOT in place on Nov, 2011 resign. It is time to do the righ thing.

  • 621. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 8:56 am

    The three charged are GUILTY PERIOD

    if they “didn’t know” that is just as bad,, knowing was their job

    Healing will never begin as long as peetz,spanier, surma, joyner are on the payroll or in charge

    I would like to hear Bill Scheyer’s thoughts on how his pick for the schools leader has totally failed him, the school the students, the state and the country.

  • 622. Steve '69 in VA  |  November 5, 2012 at 9:09 am

    So Dick you made yourself judge and jury and found them guilty … WITHOUT due process … there might be a job for you on the board of traitors or maybe become one of the NCAAsses … your choice but you aren’t a Penn Stater as far as I’m concerned!

  • 623. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 9:21 am

    yep,,that is the Harry Truman law of management

    today no one takes blame for anything, you can see where that has placed the country and the school

    that plus rewarding failure …………yes both this incident and the country

  • 624. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 9:25 am

    The inaction of that group destroyed the school

    far more than sanduskys actions

  • 625. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 9:29 am

    they deserve the same “due process” that Joe had

  • 626. Janice G  |  November 5, 2012 at 9:40 am

    The BOT handled the situation so badly no wonder they want to move on. They need to take responsiblity for their poor actions and resign.

  • 627. Ron Martino, class of 1958  |  November 5, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Dick Crestood, you have posted so many comments and I agree with some and some I don’t agree with. Please tell me when you graduated.

  • 628. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    went two years Altoona Campus, didn’t graduate,,why should that matter, I lived State College in the 60s, the pride in the school was beyond measurement. I travel quite a bit both in and out of the country, prior to this mess Penn State was a frequent topic of discussion of fellow travelers in all walks of life, everyone proudly proclaimed their association with the school. Since the “mess” NO ONE TALKS about anything except the scandal and the disservice to both current and past students and athletes the BOT failed as did the three so called leaders fail.

    this year I was in Europe for two weeks, Hawaii for 10 days Jamaica for a week, just about ZERO discussion of the school except in how sad and unnecessary the current situation is/was

  • 629. Jeff Roby  |  November 5, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    I think Crestwood graduated in 1977- he’s actually Peetz trying to take over this forum as his own little twitter, hoping the editors will shut it down.

    Until he showed up, the comments were reasonable ones about the Peetz interview. She (Crestwood) ended that.

  • 630. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    there is nothing reasonable about any peetz interview

    only peetz puppets would think that

  • 631. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    peetz puppets are everywhere, does she pay by the word posted

  • 632. I Lion  |  November 5, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    #628 Crestood, the three PSU employees failed no one! See Liz comments. . .this was investigated long before the current mess by trained individuals.

    And i had forgotten about the “follow the money” and “political ambition” rules. . .Corbett attempting to cover his corrupt butt!

    Nothing by people is performed or achieved in a vacuum. . .there’s a trail alright, but not with these three Crestood.

    This President and BoT are the posters of failed leadership and incompetence. . .never in the history of the most scathing scandals has any group failed so miserably! It’s surreal what they have caused.

    Fire Joe without due process?
    Hired gun, non legal Freeh phony report?
    Allow hired gun to make public without censor?
    Allow NCAA to impose sanction based on non legal Freeh phony?
    Fail to review the report themselves?

    And the list of incompetence goes on. . .

  • 633. knitaknee77  |  November 5, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    I agree-no more money till they are gone.

  • 634. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    also expose and promote boycotting the trustees companies

    all of the quilty are ruled by the lousy dollar,

    none should in any way be involved in educating our kids, directly or indirectly

    lion I agree, except that the mentioned should have known, it is their job to know. is there any history of any of them attempting a personal investigation? Even idle curiosity would prompt at least one of the guys to investigate

  • 635. Marie-Jeanne Cotner  |  November 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Anthony Lubrano has been encouraging people to vote for AG K. Kane because she has promised to conduct a thorough investigation. (Lubrano emphasizes that he’s a registered Republican but will vote for the Democrat in this case because she has promised him personally that she will do this.) Not sure whether that would cover what you’re asking about, but just wanted to pass it along…

  • 636. Dick Crestood  |  November 5, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    I am a registered Republican, I will vote for Kane, I was at one time a Corbett advocate, got suckered

    payback time

    vote Kane Freed is a puppet

  • 637. Psu Child Rights  |  November 5, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    I think those PSU alumni and supporters who are not willing to honestly assess the challenges with the football culture and the problems of denial and defiance among some PSU alumni and supporters fail to understand the problem.

    May no act of ours bring shame

    Certainly those who deny the actions and defend those who placed PSU’s image above the lives and well-being of young boys bring shame to all Penn Staters, past, present, and future. They may view themselves as a “resistance,” but they are not a “resistance” to the media and outsiders.

    Our children deserve safety, rights, and dignity – without question, without exception, and without reservation – and any who are willing to put a sport, an institution, or their so-called “legacy” as a greater priority have lost touch with our shared values as human beings.

    Those who don’t understand this are a “resistance,” but what they are resisting are shared values of common decency and responsibility that most human beings have as a priority towards the most vulnerable among us.

    I cannot tell you the frustration, disappointment, and outrage that the rest of us PSU alumni feel when we hear and see this. As a PSU alumnus, I cannot possibly put into words the disgust that I feel as I keep seeing media report on such groups as “alumni watchdog groups.”

    May no act of ours bring shame

    If we forget this responsibility, then all of the “pride” in the world will not “defend” our alma mater.

  • 638. I Lion  |  November 5, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    #639 What a completely self-serving self-rightous and totally devoid of reality post! We want the truth, not your blame the football culture game!

    Drink the Freeh phony kool-Aid!

    You referring to the children in line for a PSU payout and/or the one’s writing a book?

  • 639. William Raco  |  November 5, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    #639 Have you read ANY of the above comments?
    No one here is defending anyone.
    Where is there a single fact in your statement?

    Due to the board, and people like you, deciding who is guilty and who is innocent without due process is the overwhelming sentiment here.

    It is YOU, ‘Child Rights’ who’s actions are bringing shame to the university by not understanding that due process is everyone’s constitutional right.

    All we are asking for is the BoT and the public to not make snap judgments without knowing any facts.
    What drivel

  • 640. Greg Martin  |  November 5, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    #639, you simply don’t get it. We do not believe the conclusions of the Freeh report that you seemingly have accepted. There has been no evidence presented to support your belief that some “placed PSU’s image above the lives and well being of young boys”. That evidence does not exist in the Freeh report (have you read it). We all agree that children should be protected, Sandusky is a monster, etc, etc. But where you and I differ is I want only the people responsible (and no one else) to pay and I want that determination to be made via due process, not via a very flawed report developed via a very flawed investigation performed by Freeh. Additionally, I want the BoT to defend due process and defend the University until it has been determined that the University or it’s employees did something wrong. Based on the evidence presented so far, I do not believe that determination will ever be made.

  • 641. geoa201  |  November 5, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    #639: I will agree with you that all children deserve as much protection that we, as a society, can provide. That means doing above and beyond in the areas of information, education, and protection. The children should always be the primary concern; however, when personal or professional gain takes a front seat, then this primary focus is lost.

    As history has shown time and time again, there are many facets to all criminal investigations. Not every story is ultimately true, not every fact gets uncovered before guilt is assumed, not every person involved has truth as a centerpost. Many people who have been assumed guilty have been proven innocent. Many people who have been defended as innocent have been found guilty. Unfortunately, law is as much showmanship as it is undeniable facts and evidence.

    Yes, children were sexually abused on the campus grounds and other areas by a horrible person – Jerry Sandusky. The court has sentenced him accordingly. There is no denying that fact. Innocent children and families have suffered. There is no denying that fact.
    There is also no denying the fact that a person has been, and will be, held accountable for these actions. However, there is doubt about the other parties named as primary enablers.

    Always, when doubt springs forth the one direct method for crushing it is to provide undeniable evidence. The groups that you mention as “resistance” have not been convinced that this undeniable evidence actually has been presented or even actually exists. These so-called “resistance” groups have been a driving force in questioning not only the evidence, but also the validity of the entire independent investigation. The people who do question are not out for revenge, but to seek justice for all persons who have or might have been involved with this horrible tragedy.

    And as I see things, fighting for truth and justice has always been the American way. As your words state, “May no act of ours bring shame.”

  • 642. Marie-Jeanne Cotner  |  November 5, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Ditto! :)

  • 643. Science Guy  |  November 6, 2012 at 12:21 am

    Karen Peetz thinks just like the wall street banker she is and is consequently totally out of step with the alumni, students, and faculty on the issues. She is damaged goods just like Rodney Erickson and Dave Joyner and they should all resign for the good of the University. Her poor judgment, alignment with Erickson and Joyner, and lack of backbone disqualify her on integrity and merit. Karen Peetz will never again attain the respect she has lost and so obviously seeks to regain with Penn State. She would do better to look at a smaller, less visible school that is more in line with her less-than-stellar image and capacity.

  • 644. Dick Crestood  |  November 6, 2012 at 7:06 am

    Some great posts here, now ask yourself this question.

    How much time and money has the school invested in protecting themselves from

    THE STUDENT

    then this question, when was the last time you saw a police arrests report in the local newspaper (I could have missed it but I think not}

    there were danger signals long before the sandusky incident

  • 645. Dick Crestood  |  November 6, 2012 at 7:11 am

    Just a small part of the problem

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/jerry_sandusky_continues_to_re.html

  • 647. Dick Crestood  |  November 6, 2012 at 8:56 am

    He Has Got To Be Kidding

    http://www.centredaily.com/2012/11/05/3392906/penn-state-president-rodney-erickson.html

  • 648. Penn State Clips  |  November 6, 2012 at 10:39 am

    President Erickson told the Centre Daily Times, “I continue to find that many people haven’t really looked deeply into the issues.”

    Question for President Erickson, Karen Peetz, Dave Joyner, the other members of the Board of Trustees: Why did almost eight months elapse between receipt of the NCAA letter of inquiry and the hiring of NCAA compliance defense counsel Gene Marsh?

  • 649. Glenn Kilburn, PSU '72  |  November 6, 2012 at 11:04 am

    The problem here is that, even tho the consensus of these comments are unanimous in demanding resignations, those people being targeted either are not reading these comments or are dismissing them as a minority of the total alumni base. Can the comments and questions being asked be compiled and legally presented to Peetz, Erickson, and the BoT, demanding a signed statement from all of them stating that their answers are factual, truthful, and accurate? I know there are attorney alums who have already offered assistance in helping to get to the truth.

  • 650. Dick Crestood  |  November 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Simply mind boggling that the school should need educated on the Clery Act, aren’t these folks supposed to be teachers/leaders, not learners?

    http://www.splc.org/wordpress/?p=2846

    what the help are they being paid for?

  • 651. Dick Crestood  |  November 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Of course Spanier was the schools champion at secrecy, and fought/lobbied to hide facts about the school, so I guess it was follow the leader. We pay to have our kids exposed to this narcissistic moron

  • 652. Dick Crestood  |  November 7, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Joe reported the incident, the rest covered it up

    the dollar won

    The school, the students, the alum the state and the country lost

    even if convicted the perps will live a very good life, so once again we reward failure

    the results of rewarding failure are what caused the conditions we have today in this once great country

  • 653. Dick Crestood  |  November 7, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Penn Staters Did This “AWESOME”

    http://www.politicspa.com/kane-wins-ag-race-in-historic-fashion/44101/

    possibly this is the first major step to the truth

  • 654. Dick Crestood  |  November 8, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Nearly all communities post both arrest and court proceedings of all arrests.. Maybe I am missing them, can someone provide a link

  • 655. Kirk Collingwood (@capkbc)  |  November 8, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    After the election results it is apparent that people in PA do NOT want to move on. Kathleen Kane got 140,000 more vote than Obama did in PA because she wants to investigate the failures of the states investigation, not PSU admins.

  • 656. Dick Crestood  |  November 9, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Is that a quote from Kathleen, word for word?

  • 657. Dick Crestood  |  November 9, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Third paragraph from the bottom

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/politics/pennsylvania-attorney-general/index.html

  • 658. Michael Diffendal  |  November 12, 2012 at 12:00 am

    The comments regarding the proposed resolution are largely, if not entirely, unsupportive of this action. You can include me as another dissenter for various reasons which have already been expressed by others on this comment board.

    It should be abundantly clear that that most members of the current BOT should have resigned already for failed leadership during a time of crisis in November 2011. Besides resigning, the structure of the BOT should be immediately revised to eliminate governor-appointed positions and corporate positions, both of which place those members in conficts of interest. The number of unanswered questions which persist, in addition to the numerous disingenuous actions which the President and BOT have taken, warrant continued objection by all who wish to see a proper and thorough response to the tragedy which occurred.

  • 659. Dick Crestood  |  November 12, 2012 at 10:24 am

    The reputation of the school and the pride of its current and past students is tarnished forever

    HEADS NEED TO ROLL

  • 660. Dick Crestood  |  November 12, 2012 at 11:14 am

    I think it would be very interesting to see how much money and time the school has invested over the last 20 years.!

    Protecting themselves with layers of legal rulings and laws;, from the students and the students familys

  • 661. Dick Crestood  |  November 12, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    More and an interesting brief or thought

    http://verdict.justia.com/2011/11/15/the-penn-state-scandal-why-is-no-one-talking-about-title-ix-2

  • 662. Tina Hay  |  November 13, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Hi all — I’ve just deleted a few of the comments that were off-topic in terms of this discussion. But overall, we appreciate the discussion, the passion, and the civility of the comments as well. We do read every comment. Thanks for weighing in. –Tina Hay

  • 663. Tell Us Tina  |  November 13, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    When will you devote some space in your magazine to views that differ from what the BOT is trying to sell?

  • 664. Sandy  |  November 13, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    When are Erickson and Peetz going to resign?!!!! They failed miserably, and continue to fail miserably.

    Penn State needs REAL LEADERSHIP!!!

  • 665. Elaine Slusarz May  |  November 13, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Tell me this, Karen Peetz…If it was you that was denied due process, would you be so quick to tell everyone to “move on”?

  • 666. Rick Fray  |  November 13, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    It’s clear to me, the BoT considers themselves unimpeachable and at no fault throughout this calamity. They are always looking at other areas. We’re not stupid, we have degrees from Penn State. Her words are misdirection and insulting.

  • 667. David Celento  |  November 13, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Dear Board of Trustees’ President,

    Perhaps in your next news conference you can explain why you (literally) ran out of the building when I tried for—for the third time—to present the BoT with concerns about administrative misconduct involving academic affairs during the July meeting in Scranton?

  • 668. Ellen Gerhart  |  November 14, 2012 at 12:59 am

    Normally I would assume that people would get the common sentiment running through all 660+ comments, but for the benefit of the BoT, I’ll try to explain…RESIGN! That should be simple enough.

  • 669. Dick Crestood  |  November 14, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Penn State Administrators are not the only kooks in our schools

    http://www.splc.org/wordpress/?p=4387

    we may need to screen out the narcissistic types?

  • 670. Dick Crestood  |  November 14, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Nothing has changed Herr Peetz demands that you register before she permits you to speak, will she goosestep into the meeting also?

  • 671. Glenn Kilburn, PSU '72  |  November 14, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Tina, that’s great that you read these. But, then what? Do you get with Peetz and Erickson to screen them before any consideration is given to printing them? Just another wall to run into.

  • 672. MJ Neumann  |  November 14, 2012 at 11:33 am

    -Chairwoman Karen Peetz and the Penn State Board of Trustees have repeatedly said that Tim Curley and Gary Shultz will get their “due process.” Why was Joe Paterno not afforded the same consideration? What specific information did the Board of Trustees use to make their decision to terminate Paterno on November 9, 2011?
    -Where are the Penn State Board of Trustees’ meeting minutes from November 9, 2011 and why are they the only meeting minutes that have not been publicly released, even after repeated requests, and a legal requirement to do so?
    -Why did the Board of Trustees immediately grab power from Graham Spanier, force his resignation, and not allow him to manage the crisis from day one? What facts did they have to inform this decision?
    -Why didn’t the Board of Trustees ask for a detailed account of Penn State officials’ participation in the Grand Jury investigation, especially if Graham Spanier and General Counsel Cynthia Baldwin were aware of the proceedings?
    -Why hasn’t the Board of Trustees acknowledged that it acted precipitously in terminating Joe Paterno in November 2011, before any facts were uncovered, before the Board became aware that the statements attributed to Mike McQueary in the Grand Jury presentment were false, that Mike McQueary gave numerous versions of his story, none of which provided any details to Joe Paterno, and before the Board became aware that Joe Paterno followed University reporting protocols as they existed in 2001?
    -The Board of Trustees has repeatedly been asked to produce the Letter of Intent, Scope of Work and Memo of Understanding, as well as all proposals received from other potential contractors before the November 2011 hiring of Freeh Sporkin & Sullivan LLP. Where is this documentation and why haven’t the Trustees released this information?
    -Was the relationship between Freeh, Sporkin & Sullivan, Pepper Hamilton, and various board members and their employers, including Mr. Frazier and Mr. Lubert, disclosed to all Trustees? What was the role of the law firm of Reed Smith and what is that law firm’s relationship to individual members of the Board and their employers?
    -Why has the Penn State Board of Trustees (formally or informally) accepted the unsupported conclusions of the Freeh Report and allowed an incomplete and judicially irrelevant document to serve as the basis for NCAA sanctions, Middle States Accreditation warnings and premature civil settlements brought forth by victims?

    I am sorry, but Ms. Peetz, Dr. Erickson and the rest of the 11/12 Board members are the ones who need to “move on”. Resign now.

  • 673. Fran Sonne, PSU 1973  |  November 14, 2012 at 11:40 am

    I agree with Glenn – these comments must be communicated to the bot and erickson, et al., otherwise this forum is an exercise in futility.

  • 674. Glenn Kilburn, PSU '72  |  November 14, 2012 at 11:43 am

    It’s mind-blowing that Peetz, Erickson, and the rest of the Nov, 2011 BoT continue to ignore these questions, which are the predominant ones that at least the alumni want answers. They continue to talk about moving on. Do they really think that by promoting that concept we will stop asking these questions? These are the questions that must be answered before our university can move forward. Otherwise, a healing process cannot start, and these wounds will permantly scar all of us. Unless these people can openly and honestly address these questions without BS rhetoric, their legacy will be forever one of cowardliness, hypocrisy, and self-serving motives.

  • 675. Dick Crestood  |  November 14, 2012 at 11:54 am

    The whole thing smells of coverup, we should demand to see any and all back room deals that were made with Shultz, Curley and Spanier in regards t what they received for taking the fall. Could be that most of the three if not all three were going to retire soon regardless. Can we please at least see their retirement packages

    Bring on the polygraph

    seems lying has become the national pastime

  • 676. Tina Hay  |  November 14, 2012 at 11:55 am

    In answer to some of the questions asked of us here: We do plan to do something in the magazine in an upcoming issue about ReBOT, PS4RS, and other advocacy groups, so stay tuned for that. (It probably won’t be in the January-February issue, so don’t be alarmed if you don’t see it there.) And we also print a representative sampling of letters that are sent directly to the magazine, via pennstaterletters@psu.edu or pennstater@psu.edu (or by snail mail or fax). But, no, no one from the BOT screens our letters before we print them.

  • 677. Dick Crestood  |  November 14, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Looks like Corbett is in full damage control

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/14/penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal/1704773/

    yes or no?

  • 678. Sherri  |  November 14, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    The last paragraph pretty much sums up what we all have been saying:

    Michael Poliakoff, vice president of policy at the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, a non-profit group that was mentioned several times in the report, lauded the findings: “This is a careful analysis that goes to the very root of the problem. Namely, that the Penn State board vested far too much power in the president and failed to exercise its fiduciary duties of oversight. This culture of board deference must change at Penn State, and other colleges and universities need carefully to review their governance structure to ensure that boards are empowered and proactive. Properly, the auditor’s report calls for appropriate, substantive reforms.”

  • 679. Greg Martin  |  November 14, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Tina, I think it is great that you plan an article about the PSU advocacy groups. I certainly hope that the article drills deep into core beliefs that many members of these groups have: that the BoT is largely responsible for the current situation we are in; that they have grossly mismanaged the situation; that they have placed their own best interests as industry leaders ahead of those of the University; that they have not defended the University; that they have not demanded due process; that they have not defended the Universitys best ambassador ever in Joe Paterno; and more. If the article does not address these head on and thoroughly, it will be a failure. I also hope that the article is not improperly influenced by the BoT. Thank you.

  • 680. Fran Sonne, PSU 1973  |  November 15, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Now that the auditor general has come out with recommendations that appear to mirror concerns of the alumni with respect to the bot, erickson, etc., do we stand a chance of finally getting some answers? I think the bot and erickson will have a hard time accepting these recommendations, unlike their speed in accepting the “fact-freeh” report. Their response to these recommendations will truly show whether they have any spine. Personally, I doubt it.

  • 681. Susan Gifford, '80 MBA  |  November 15, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Thank you Fran Sonne for your comment on Mr. Wagner’s recommendations. I have read his 123 page report through recommendation 7 and found only minor quibbles with what he has proposed – making PSU subject to the PA Right to Know law (I’m concerned about research and intellectual property) and requiring PSU to implement while requesting the other three state-related institutions to “should work to enact”. I don’t want Wagner’s report to be another punishment; instead, I see it as an opportunity to reform the BOT. I strongly encouage all alumni to read his report (and the 23 page supplement wherein he discusses how to implement his recommendations) and to contact their state legislater and senator encouraging full debate and action when the legislature returns to session in January.

  • 682. bap5  |  November 15, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    BOT at the time of Nov, 2011, Peetz, Erickson, and Corbett…take responsibility for your own poor judgment and actions and get out now before you totally destroy our beloved University. You are clueless and lack the insight into what this university, its students, its alumni, and the State need. Just get out, we don’t want you or need you. You screwed up period and don’t have the honor or integrity to admit you were wrong. You are Persona Non Gratis…

  • 683. Dick Crestood  |  November 16, 2012 at 9:32 am

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/30/justice/penn-state-emails/index.html

  • 684. Dick Crestood  |  November 16, 2012 at 9:35 am

    Second from last paragraph

  • 686. Dick Crestood  |  November 16, 2012 at 9:55 am

    GET RID OF PEETZ before she bankrupts the school.

    Then examine all tax returns (2012) of peetz benefactors regarding the scandal, now she wants to hire yet another flunky/friend?

  • 687. Dick Crestood  |  November 16, 2012 at 10:02 am

    We continue to reward failure, even when guilty these conniving bozos who we entrust with our kids will live lavishly for the rest of their lives on OUR DIME

    http://www.centredaily.com/2012/07/18/3265726/pressure-mounts-for-ex-psu-board.html#storylink=botprev

  • 688. Dick Crestood  |  November 16, 2012 at 10:03 am

    wrong link in above post

  • 689. sherrysauerwine  |  November 17, 2012 at 1:34 am

    Karen Peetz should never mention the word “culture” specifically when saying that the PSU “culture” needs to change considering the Wall Street “culture” that she carries. Peetz is an executive at BNY Mellon and in the past two weeks BNY Mellon was fined and had to make restitution to the state of VA for having defrauded the state pension fund through foreign currency transactions. A few days after that, BNY Mellon was compelled to pay $210 million to resolve lawsuits alleging that it concealed doubts about the business operated by convicted Ponzi scheme operator Bernie Madoff.

    She comes from a culture or corporate corruption and now she’s telling us about the need to change PSU’s culture. Give me a break.

    I can’t say it often or loudly enough — every BOT member excepting the three newly elected members needs to resign and they need to take the interim AD (one of their own) and Erickson with them.

  • 690. Dick Crestood  |  November 17, 2012 at 10:31 am

    http://www.bagwellforpennstate.com/blog/unwarranted-praise-for-karen-peetz/

  • 691. Glenn Kilburn PSU '72  |  November 17, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    I think it’s time to open another can of worms. This would be in regards to Peetz’s and Erickson’s cowardly reaction to NCAA’s Emmerts, who apparently thinks he is one of Obama’s Czars instead of head of an organization entrusted to maintaining compliance of rules and regulations strictly related to athletic conduct of their members. There is no question that our university should have challenged the NCAA’s ruling that stole Coach Paterno’s wins, took them away from innocent players who had nothing to do with the “scandal”, but who worked their butts off both on the field and in the classroom, and shamelessly has punished current and future players, most who were still in elementary school when the alleged atrocities started to surface. The $60MM submissably given to the NCAA by two people who are freely using “our” money could have been effectively used to fight these sanctions in court. A law suit could easily expose Emmerts’ illegal abuse of NCAA authority. Now, with all that said, we are fortunate to have a new coach who is the perfect replacement for Coach Paterno. He deserves our support. More important, he deserves the support of Peetz, Erickson, and Joyner, who by the way benefited from his self-serving vote to fire his mentor. Coach O’ needs to be shown that every effort will be made to overturn NCAA sanctions, and that the administration has his back. Otherwise, we will soon lose the one coach who can effectively lead the program back into prominence. But he cannot do it with one arm tied behind his back, which is what our beloved leaders have done to him. Leaders? We have no leaders in positions that are needed to move us forward. Instead, we have self-serving hypocrites and cowards who have turned a deaf ear and blind eye to the people who keep this university going – the ALUMNI!! What are we going to do about it? If the BoT and Erickson won’t listen, we need to put this in our hands. Their is strength in numbers. Wouldn’t it be cool to have 100,000+ alumni show the team and their coaches our support with an initial peaceful showing outside the stadium and possibly marching to Old Main? Would that get their attention? Just saying. I’m not a trouble maker, just an alumn who is sick over what is happening and hurts for the current players and recruits who are showing more loyalty than our own administrators.

  • 692. Dick Crestood  |  November 17, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Tears of pride for those young men on the field today.

    Why are they being punished for the actions of greed, perpetuated by the corrupt,clueless, self serving so called educated leaders of the school…………………………… and the BOT…………. specifically karen peetz.

    ANSWERS PLEASE

  • 693. Jeff Roby  |  November 19, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    For Dick Crestwood,

    Why don’t you open your own Twitter account instead of using this comments section as your personal feed?

  • 694. Dick Crestood  |  November 21, 2012 at 8:50 am

    Fraud Hunter here

    are you a target

  • 695. Anonymous  |  November 21, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    Just think of how different it would have been if the BOT held their 10pm press conference and said, “Joe Paterno has always been a man of honor and integrity. As such, we will stand by him and support his efforts in his final season while we conduct a full investigation into this matter.” There you go.

  • 696. Anonymous  |  November 21, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    #695 Well stated and any university with honor and integrity would have. . .so ashamed of the president and BoT responsible for such shameful and cowardly actions, the university is dead to me until these individuals are held accountable for disrespecting due process and the university community!

    No individuals can be this ignorant, only explanation is corruption, jealousy, envy, cover up, etc.

  • 697. Glenn Kilburn PSU '72  |  November 21, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Why do I feel all of these comments are falling on deaf ears and that all we’re really doing is singing to the choir?

  • 698. Susan Gifford, '80 MBA  |  November 21, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    To Glenn Kilburn – you feel that way because that’s what is happening. All you folks need to go read the article on this site about the BOT meeting last week. This board (with a few notable exceptions – Lubrano, McCombie, Myers, and I hope Adam T.) is deaf, dumb, and blind. They believe their critics (I mean us, folks) are a small minority and are misguided. They answet to no one, except for rolling over and playing dead for Louis Freeh and the NCAA. I again strongly encourage all you folks to read Jack Wagner’s report, and, if you agree with his recommendations, go to your state representatives (Senate and House) and ask them to enact the recommendations. The Board didn’t even discuss this report except in a committee meeting on Thursday, and as I understand the discussion involved mostly complaining about the report. I’m certain the Board WILL TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS REPORT unless forced to do so. Thus, lets get the PA lawmakers to force them.

  • 699. Glenn Kilburn PSU '72  |  November 22, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Susan, you are right on all counts and I agree with you. Unfortunately, I now live in Ohio and doubt that PA politicians care about my feelings being that they can’t compete for my vote. I also am not convinced that PA lawmakers would support our concerns, since this whole travesty has been politically motivated from day one.

  • 700. SQPublic  |  December 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    Dick, get off this site and open yourself a Twitter acct. You look foolish and are diminishing the valid comments. Notice that you are about the only one now commenting. Wonder why?

  • 701. Anonymous  |  December 3, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    #704 I second your request. . .DC is acting the fool!

  • 702. Tina Hay  |  December 5, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Hi all — Again we’ve taken the liberty of deleting a number of comments that are not relevant to the original post. We’re happy to allow an active discussion, but we ask that commenters follow our guidelines on our “About Us” page (http://pennstatermag.com/about/), namely that comments be on-topic, be civil, and not include personal attacks. Thanks. –Tina Hay

  • 703. Dick Crestood  |  December 5, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    you can hide posts but not facts

  • 704. Dick Crestood  |  December 5, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    We all know that post 713 link would never in a million years be other than local news, had not Spanier,Shultz and Curley totally destroyed the schools reputation in the eyes of the world

  • 705. Bill Priatko  |  December 5, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Is not the most vital and truthful point being erroneously misleading!!! Spanier, Schultz and Curly are not responsible for totally destroying the schools reputation in the eyes of the world. The BOT, Freeh Report, Governor Corbett and the NCAA are responsible. The concentration and investigations should center on them.

  • 706. Tina Hay  |  December 10, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Hi everybody — The comments are starting to get either repetitive or off topic. With more than 700 comments, we think that the discussion about this particular post has been plenty thorough. We’ve decided to cap it here and close this post to further comments. Thanks to everyone for weighing in. –Tina Hay

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